People in there are defending it saying criticism of Israel lobbying+money = antisemitism + antisemitism regarding Jews having money
They're basically calling criticism of a superpac antisemitic :what-the-hell:
Bad faith responses of "so you think Jews control the US?" are disgusting.
Literally just saw a Tweet calling a Jewish man a "kapo" because he didn't consider Israel his home and said that Israeli influence on US politics was bad.
Zionism is fascism. I guess that's anti-Semitic too because you're comparing Israel to other fascist states like Nazi Germany.
IDF kills children? That's blood libel. It's anti-Semitic to point out literally anything Israel does.
When are people gonna catch on to what they're doing?
They spent a lot of money on ads that were full of straight-up lies. Most of this went through the right-wing "Dem Majority for Israel" PAC that also spent heavily against Bernie in the 2020 Dem primary.
Outside spending:
Either pro-Turner or anti-Brown: $904k
Either pro-Brown or anti-Turner: ~$2.7M
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7zKSXDXIAELXna?format=png&name=small
From the thread:
Wait I didn’t realize Nina Turner spent almost two million more than Shontel Brown and still lost🤪😂
Making up facts to gloat about
That's a really strange road for libs to travel in the first place :hillgasm:
I like how 5 years ago if you said a bad word about Hillary to a lib you might as well have condoned puppy murder but now most of them are doing their best to pretend she never existed
Like clockwork.
And what bothers me is that they'll say they don't hate the left. But this isn't sports. Who wins has real effects on real people.
Imagine being such a loser that you look at millions of dollars buying on off-year primary and think "Yes, this vindicates my beliefs about why the left has problems."
I suppose it's probably in line with the class interests of most who think that way.
Seriously looking through that r/politics thread and seeing people bring up things that have nothing to do with the millions of dollars and the insufficiently sized mass movement...
There's just no use to talking to anyone who actually pays attention to politics and is a centrist lib, they're too far gone.
Reddit libs predictably tapdancing on the grave of a progressive campaign. Imagine if they cared about materially improving people's lives the same amount as they cared about dIvIsIvEnEsS. So congrats libs, you get to have yet another representative who will rubberstamp Biden's bold agenda of, uh, increasing funding to the police and Israel (and only those two things). Just don't expect me to lift a finger in 2022 when you once again try to convince me that "no really this time we support M4A, GND, all that stuff!" - go find some fucking suburban never Trumpers, it's who you guys want to be anyway.
And to all the leftists here, obligatory "where did that bring you? Back to me"
:lenin-shining:
Fucking wish we had some divisiveness, someone who recognizes the division between the fucking haves and have nots
Nah, best the libs can do is say "we see you, we hear you" as they continue to govern indistinguishably from republicans
this shit fucking sucks, I campaigned for her and everything
I really thought she had this locked down. fuck Israel PAC.
We definitely have a real democracy here in the US, not a sham democracy like in Cuba, where don't even let candidates use the power of money to best inform voters. You can't even campaign there and make promises! You have to run solely on your credentials and presence in your local community. Ick!
Yeah absolutely, can you imagine living somewhere where you actually have to consider who your candidates are and make an informed decision? I prefer Republicans telling me which Democrat to vote for.
I mean, that's bipartisan right? Am I really going to pick a candidate the opposing party doesn't want? That's divisive.
there are a lot of Brown signs but I didn't think they are representative, such a fucking bummer, and a huge reversal from polling. And she'll be fucking terrible, of course.
I'll do the same thing I do whenever I'm appalled at America: be glad China is winning
Talk about living in an alternate reality - Jesus fuck...
cal_oe comments on Discussion Thread: OH-11, OH-15 Special Election Primary Results
Voters are getting tired of performative nonsense from Bernie, AOC, and the Squad and are happy with getting actual results from an actual Democrat like Biden who actually did something about extending the eviction moratorium instead of camping out like moron in front of the Capital building.
checked out his profile and typical Reddit lib. The only based part was shitting on Israel and the US relationship with it. Outside of that one gem, constantly defends Amazon and Bezos, along with demonizing the homeless and denouncing BLM.
This is something I've noticed with a lot of Democratic hardliners. They're extremely conservative and only act woke to be superior over someone else. It's like those Biden supporters who asked if Bernie's immigrant voters were even legal citizens during the Iowa caucus. They probably went on Reddit afterwards and complained about white bros ruining politics.
Funnily enough, the independent "don't care about politics" types are usually less insufferable and somewhat more based, just needing more direction.
They’re extremely conservative and only act woke to be superior over someone else.
I learned that in r/PoliticalHumor. They're in a humor sub to be the comedy police and to correct "inaccuracies". They'll lecture me that I'm not funny. They'll error check my jokes. Or they lecture me and error check. The vituperation is quite something.
And not only are they self-righteous as hell - they are often monumentally unfunny.
actual Democrat like Biden who actually did something
Wrong.
Fuck…I’m just having a hard time envisioning a future that is even marginally better than present day, each day, as it dwindles each passing day, without violence. I feel bad about that. I don’t know what to do. There are no other avenues 😞
And so, once again, I underestimated the psychotic hatred the American people have for anyone left of the Democratic establishment
I think it's the unlimited PAC money. Most people don't hate, they just don't know anything beyond what's put in front of them on TV.
I love to talk to one of those redditors in real life tomorrow and see if they'd say the same stuff right to my face. I think the convo would go like this...
"I'm a socialist. You?"
"I'm a liberal."
"Do you know who Nina Turner is?"
"No."
And later they'd go on reddit and say how they totally owned a socialist even though they didn't actually say a word about politics.
The same libs who openly celebrate the loss of a progressive candidate will then be shocked that populist Republicans crush their centrist candidates.
But they will never take responsibility for that. Nor will they ever learn.
honestly it's gonna be hilarious when Trump's rotting corpse beats Biden in a few years
you think I'm kidding? they'd totally pull a Weekend at Bernies and WIN. NOTHING is too fucking stupid for america
Considering it's r/politics - this comment surprised me...
cannibalwendy comments on Discussion Thread: OH-11, OH-15 Special Election Primary Results
I didn't pay attention to this a lot, but in this thread, I feel like there's this part of this pattern where people gleefully dance on progressive's graves and make comments about "viability" when "twitter is not real life" cuts both ways and we all have a tendency to over project ideology onto what is local feet-on-the-ground races.
If Turner loses, she at least built a really big electoral footprint of power that can be built on top of. This is all about building power, and democracy, not horse races.
The other comments on that post really shine a light on just how much liberals hate the left.
If Turner loses, she at least built a really big electoral footprint of power that can be built on top of. This is all about building power, and democracy, not horse races.I wouldn't be surprised if she runs again
Holy shit, thassa toxic thread.
Still grudging over her bashing BJG without any legitimate provocation many moons ago, which must make me a hundredth as vindictive as she is.
ok, two questions. what in the actual fuck is that electoral district, and why is Nina doing better in like....what is that, outer Akron? i haven't followed this at all, it's just unclear to me why anyone in this place would vote for brown over turner.
Because of a massive smear campaign funded by Democratic Majority For Israel
man, i saw the chart but somehow thought it couldn't be that simple. i'm probably wrong, they spent a tremendous amount of money.
So, I’ve spent time in the more southern part of that district, not so much the Cleveland part.
I didn’t realize how much map gore that mf has until an hour or so ago, but here’s my sense of the geography near Akron.
Akron itself is pretty poor, obviously. The greater Akron metro, which does not include Cleveland, is either 1st or 3rd cheapest metro area in the country, by cost of living. But that connection goes through two relatively rich areas, Fairlawn and Richfield. However, I kind of suspect that a lot of that space isn’t really residential; like it may well be connected by a string of parks, car dealerships, and shipping companies along main roads, that kind of thing. It’s hard to tell on mobile.
As a rule of thumb, as you enter the middle terrain between akron and Cleveland, you stop seeing exurban layouts (nice grids, relatively dense, plenty of food/retail near living clusters), and the landscape becomes dominated by post 90s suburban developments formed when someone sold the farm their parents owned and it got turned into 30 houses crammed into that space, with culdesacs etc, dotted by oases of Starbucks and fast food. A truly artificial landscape, lab-grown by local finance capitals.
So, given that the vast majority of the population of the district lives in actual (hollowed out) urban cores, these connecting strips are probably not deciding factors. But I do think it’s an interesting geographical dynamic
post 90s suburban developments formed when someone sold the farm their parents owned and it got turned into 30 houses crammed into that space
oh hey, look, it's the only new development happening in my hometown. and that's not even a self-doxx, it's happening literally everywhere.
It'll be a very close race, but I don't think Nina Turner has the votes to win this.
The libs are already celebrating her loss in their r/politics thread. Example...
Well, based on the districts left it's downhill from here for Turner. Only thing left is to see how much she lost by.
Like other people have said elsewhere, expect low turnout. I think that's equally to blame as the money spent.
It's honestly infuriating how much political advertisements sway people
Like, make up your mind on your own. Jfc
