Some of trumps recent remarks are keeping me up at night again. The Israel situation was keeping me up a l little bit ago and now it's this dip shit again and his psychopath cronies

  • iridaniotter [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    Trump probably wins and everything continues to get worse as America plunges ever closer to its collapse. Alternatively, Biden ekes out a win and everything continues to get worse as America plunges ever closer to its collapse.

    • FearsomeJoeandmac [he/him, he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Of course that's why i generally don't put much stock. But the blood poisoning comments are the most blatant comments he's made in awhile

      • duderium [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Trump: “They are poisoning our blood! Believe me! Very many people are saying it!”

        Biden: “We live in a racial jungle, Jack!”

        Trump/Biden: kills shitloads of workers to enrich capitalists every day of their presidencies*

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Yea and bidens response was "I don't like the language but he's not wrong"

        He was talking about securing a future for American children last time, he's been an open fascist for 8 years now, nothing has stuck yet. 2016 he led crowds in chants of "lock her up" about jailing his political opponents and stadiums followed him in chanting it, because as soon as liberals indicated theybwere offended by it it was the most effective message in the country.

        In fact he's now quadrupled down on it because once again his bases top priority is he continue to do things that upset liberals and now that liberals have told them you can't say immigrants poison the blood of a country he will lead his crowds in chants of it going forward.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    10 months ago

    Trump wins and it's the Dem's fault as always because they have done absolutely positively nothing of value for any real person in America or the world at large. They could do literally anything, literally ONE FUCKING THING, and beat Trump. They could raise the minimum wage. They could pick literally any human rights issue that's under attack in the US and make it law. They could give everyone $1000 bucks. Anything. Literally anything, and they would win.

    They won't though, so they're gonna get destroyed and they're gonna blame us.

      • Adkml [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Bit idea, we all vote for the parliamentarian since they apparently have more political power than every elected dem combined.

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        10 months ago

        Record numbers of unemployed

        Record numbers of homeless

        Record high student loan debt

        Housing market is fucked

        Infrastructure is fucked

        None of those plans have done a god-damned thing aside from making people like you pull a smuglord

          • da_gay_pussy_eatah [she/her]
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            10 months ago

            It's honestly sad how accustomed American liberals are to the idea that the government shouldn't be expected to do anything to tangibly improve people's lives.

          • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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            10 months ago

            People who can't feed their kids now need to wait for an investment to pay divided and to want to feed their children right now is just being delusional. Government shouldn't invest, it should fucking govern and should be replaced when it's eating shit at doing so.

        • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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          10 months ago

          Today's announcement brings the total approved debt cancellation by the Biden-Harris Administration to nearly $132 billion for more than 3.6 million Americans.

          • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            $132 billion in approved debt cancellation out of a total of $1.7 trillion, and that paltry percentage is planned to be cancelled if people subscribe to the right repayment plans and have no meaningful changes in income ("Sorry bud, you gotta keep working retail for your entire adult life because otherwise your monthly expenses go up by a thousand dollars!") over the next 40 years. And that's assuming the entire plan doesn't get scrapped by the next administration, which it almost certainly will be.

            It cannot be overstated how absolutely, completely fucking useless this plan is. It makes the ACA look like the New Deal by comparison. It's like King Louis XVI walking out to a horde of starving peasants and saying he totally addressed food prices by handing out two dozen loaves of bread every three months.

              • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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                10 months ago

                Yeah, he either did the thing or he didn't

                That's how material reality works, if I didn't get shit from him then he didn't do shit for me and there isn't a damn thing you can say to convince me otherwise

                • Adkml [he/him]
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                  10 months ago

                  "He slowed the guillotine down by 10% I'm not sure what your headless body is even complaining about"

              • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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                10 months ago

                The last time they raised the minimum wage was 2009. That's $7.25/hr. How much pain has it been since then? How much more gap between the cost of living and $7.25/hr has it been?

                12 years later.....Full-time minimum wage workers can't afford rent anywhere in the US, according to a new report (2021)

                Kicking the can. Means testing. Excuses excuses excuses. But when a Republican gets in power do you hear any of this "be pragmatic" can kicking shit from them? No. They go whole hog. Yes it's horrible and dangerous. And 10 years later the Dems will not only expand on those horrible and dangerous policies, they will be wrapping their arms around these horrible and dangerous people, welcoming them into the party while chastising the left for being unreasonable.

              • Rod_Blagojevic [none/use name]
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                10 months ago

                In this case, emphatically yes. This isn't a stepping stone to the needed solution. They could've done what was complete, immediate, and needed but chose some bullshit instead. They're not trying to fix a problem, they're trying to see what they can get away with.

              • Adkml [he/him]
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                10 months ago

                No, because it reduces it by about 10% its meaningless to 90% of people.

                Love this logic, according to liberals I could hand them $1 (or a note that says IOU $1) and then they're never allowed to criticize me ever again because "oh what you want me tonsolve every problem at once, I did something which is deffinitly different from doing nothing"

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      • Infamousblt [any]
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        10 months ago

        Great, so can you explain how any of those things materially help people continue to pay rent, healthcare, student loans (I can't wait to hear how you think that the student debt relief somehow actually did anything material for student debt relief), buy groceries, etc? I'd love to hear you explain how that fancy list of hilariously named things actually accomplished anything.

        • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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          10 months ago

          Today's announcement brings the total approved debt cancellation by the Biden-Harris Administration to nearly $132 billion for more than 3.6 million Americans.

          Do you struggle with reading comprehension? Or did you just not actually read anything?

          • Infamousblt [any]
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            10 months ago

            I don't struggle with reading comprehension, no. In fact, I can read my student loan repayment plan, I can read the bill I still get every month, I can read the check I still have to send out every month, and I can see that the number hasn't changed substantially during Biden's term except for the payments I've made and am still making and will be making for decades to come. I'd send you a picture of the bill I get every month but it's not written in crayon so it would probably be difficult for you

            • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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              10 months ago

              Ah, so because your personal, individual situation did not change, that means nothing of any value was accomplished for anyone.

              The term for this is selfish.

                • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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                  10 months ago

                  No, I think that the original statement:

                  it's the Dem's fault as always because they have done absolutely positively nothing of value for any real person in America or the world at large

                  Is objectively false.

                  Highlighting the hypocrisy that other people reveal in themselves is just a bonus.

                  • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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                    10 months ago

                    So what; you thought coming in here, soliciting uncited lines about student debt relief, and then calling into question people's reading comprehension or altruism was a good way to convince people to vote for Democrats? or is this all just masturbation?

                    • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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                      10 months ago

                      No, I think that the original statement:

                      it's the Dem's fault as always because they have done absolutely positively nothing of value for any real person in America or the world at large

                      Is objectively false.

                      • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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                        10 months ago

                        If you're sick and you go to a doctor, would you be happy if he said he made you 8% cured?

                      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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                        10 months ago

                        Such a fucking pedant, aren't you

                        "ooOOooooOO he cancelled debt for 3.6 million people"

                        Yes that is objectively good

                        The problem is, like every 'good' liberal solution, it does a fraction of the good it could do.

                        Obamacare, this, the joke agenda they have for addressing climate change, their 'gun bill' that did functionally nothing, and dozens of others

                        Why are you so overzealous for the fucking breadcrumbs they toss us all from the loaves they stuff themselves with?

                  • Adkml [he/him]
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                    10 months ago

                    On the one hand we have polls of how people feel about the economy and on the other hand we have smug liberals lecturing us that if we think the fact nobody has any money is bad we just need to read this think piece.

                    Can't wait to see how this goes for liberals this time.

              • Infamousblt [any]
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                10 months ago

                I'm selfish? I'm not sure you understand what that word means. See, I'm not that worried about myself, but I also recongize that I'm not special. If my material conditions didn't change with some insubstantial student loan relief, then it stands to reason that many others also saw no change in their material conditions. To me, this means the policy was ineffective; if it didn't help the people it needed to help, then it wasn't much good at all, was it? It would be selfish if I claimed that my material conditions improved and that I didn't care about other's, but I didn't claim that. My issue with the "student loan relief" is that it didn't relieve student loans for everyone. There's nothing selfish about demanding enacted policy have a positive impact on everyone it sets out to help.

                I would however say that it is QUITE selfish to defend a policy that helped you or that didn't set out to help you to begin with, but didn't help everyone else that it did set out to help. I'm sure you're a rational enough human to understand that.

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          • GaveUp [love/loves]
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            10 months ago

            3.6 million Americans is 1% of the population lol

            He helped 1% of the population out with an average of 35k loans with the BIG if of all the technicalities others have stated. Not even the most vulnerable either because these are the college educated

          • TC_209 [he/him, comrade/them]
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            10 months ago

            I was going to vote for Biden but now I won't because you acted with such brutal incivility. This is the most important election of our lives; democracy itself is on the ballot and you are turning people away from the polls before they've even opened. You are handing Trump the keys to the White House; you are ushering in the dark tide of fascism. Enjoy the next election, you have made it our last.

          • Adkml [he/him]
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            10 months ago

            Gonna go ahead and say the people who figured out $130 billion isn't the same as 1.3 trillion aren't the ones with the reading comprehension problem.

            Also mandatory "liberals try to convince you to vote for Biden without directly insulting you challenge, impossible"

  • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Trump's going to win and is going to try to do a lot of scary shit but this is a country that couldn't mail out paper masks in a pandemic. He'll manage to kill some people via spectacular violence and institute a geographically patchy reign of terror but he will neither produce a broad effective program nor will he have institutions capable of executing it

    The country will of course be further destabilized (and who knows what that'll entail) but perhaps more importantly what Trump will do is grind the United States of America's inner workings to a halt and, God willing, asphyxiate it like an immobilized shark

  • BlueMagaChud [any]
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    10 months ago

    death to the bourgeoisie and their collaborators, long live the red terror

  • DengistDonnieDarko [none/use name]
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    10 months ago

    i cannot tell the future, except in this one, extremely specific case:

    In the year 2024, I will not be casting a ballot for Genocide Joe biden-troll

  • bubbalu [they/them]
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    10 months ago

    Biden realizes the decisive Arab vote in Michigan and Minnesota will cost him the election more than the Zionist-Jewish vote and pivots to Palestine. In a moment of tenuous solidarity, the USS Gerald Ford allows Ansar Allah militants aboard so as not to be the direct force enforcing the blockade on Caesaria Port.

  • GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    The United States will be the same country in the same decline.

  • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    Biden won 2020 by tricking younger voters to come out and vote in The Most Important Election of Our Lifetime™ and they're not dumb enough to fall for it again. Why keep voting for a party that is incapable (and unwilling) to fulfill its promises once they're in power?

      • BoxedFenders [any, comrade/them]
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        10 months ago

        Yep, but only when it's a Democrat. While Republicans somehow become tyrannical dictators once they occupy the White House, and they must be stopped at all costs so please vote for the most mediocre candidate we can field to oppose them.

        • RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her]
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          10 months ago

          Yes, wielding power is uncouth. We shouldn't soil out hands with such things. The republicans may get everything they want, but we're better than them

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      10 months ago

      Well wait, some '@' lib here was telling everyone how Biden actually did a lot of great things for everyone

      And you know it was a lot of significant, meaningful change when you have to scream about how it's amazing

  • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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    10 months ago

    The only thing I can tell you is that the media circus will be much less. Trump has less of a platform and the democrats don't want Biden to speak publicly. Neither side has a real primary or the possibility of another candidate.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      10 months ago

      It is wild to me that Trump's existence as public figure was attached so tightly to his Twitter account

      • theposterformerlyknownasgood
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        10 months ago

        His twitter account and the massive amount of attention he was afforded by the media whenever he opened his mouth. That is no longer the case. In part because lf the trial, in part because of the last two elections

  • SwitchyWitchyandBitchy [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    I think between fast descent into full fascism and break neck speed descent into full fascism that the latter will win.

  • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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    10 months ago

    imo it's too early to tell. Americans have the memory of a goldfish, I don't think anything that happens before the final candidates for each party are chosen matters. Sure the dems have absolutely lost some people over Bombin' Biden's support of Israel, but I don't think that really matters to most american voters. It's looking like it'll be Biden vs Trump again, but without a bunch of residual goodwill towards biden and Trump has the advantage of not being on the defence this time (court cases notwithstanding but I don't know how much those will factor in. If anything he can spin it as being under attack by the entrenched powers etc etc). Right now if I was a betting man I'd say trump has the lead, but with still almost a year to go anything could happen.

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    10 months ago

    Opinions of the youth don't matter and they'll go amnesic in six months time regardless, older middle class cracker suburbanites vote more, and they don't care about genocide or border camps, they'll vote for Biden because of the money the US is sucking up from Europe and the residual aftershocks from Roe vs Wade

    Trump will be too bogged down with court battles to focus on effective anti-dem campaigning, and for every Arab vote Biden loses he'll pick up evangelical zionist dominionists from bumfuck Michigan

    Turnout will be slightly lower but not unprecedented, the zionist lobby will recover in a years time, pro-Palestinian voices will slowly and quietly be purged from media and academia, and all the pseudo-left culture commentators will be activated and start preaching for the cult of harm reduction

    Biden will win a comfortable victory

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      I don't get everybody saying trumps gonna be bogged down.

      Everytime he gets charged with something it galvanized his base.

      Other republican nominees actually started attacking him until Colorado ruled he can't be on the ballot because he was proven to have tried to instigate an insurrection (don't kill the messenger that's what the ruling said not me) and every news anchor on msnbc and CNN agree its good for Trump and all his opponents are back to defending him.