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  • Jorick [he/him]
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    I wonder also, wasn't the US army sponsoring COD or some shit ? I mean, that's just so fucking mask off, the entire narrative that marxists infiltrated every level of society to destroy America (based btw) is literally McCarthyism. And people just eat it up without asking ANYTHING.

    I hate to say it, but the tankies were right on this one. People will have to be purged.

    • evilgiraffemonkey [he/him]
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      Iirc, and I'm not a gamer so maybe it was another game, but I think there was a COD game where they had a re-enactment of The Highway of Death but just with the Russians as the perpetrators

      • Torenico [he/him]
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        Yeah, they also blamed another massacre committed by the US on the Russians.

        They also show the Russians waterboarding you in the game, and the CIA agent in the game turns out to be a really nice guy too.

    • _else [she/her,they/them]
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      yup. fuck tankies(im down for literally, but if you call me an anarkiddie during/after, ima call you a kiddie fucker), but on this particular issue; I can't think of any better ideas.

      • Jorick [he/him]
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        A part of my political journey was to realize both Marxist Leninists and anarchists make excellent and valid points; but also had flaws in their ideologies. Dismissing an entire pan of left-wing politics because they're "authoritarian" is a mistake. I mean, you do you comrade, but sectarianism for the sake of ideological purity isn't really how anytihing will change.

        • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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          It is a real interesting dilemma tho. On one hand if you go too loose on things, you will get many different groups, and no clear leadership, so a lot of infighting. On the other- having a strong leader leads to authoritarianism pretty easy. And there doesnt seem to be an easy solution....

        • bamboo68 [none/use name,any]
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          i jus cant pretend like i have any sort of historical perspective and not support "autoritarianism" lol as an ML none of us really really hate anarchos the way they hate "tankies" its just like come on, were kinda in a hurry here lol

        • _else [she/her,they/them]
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          no im not dismissing them. marx is the shit, even if not everything he said stood the test of time. lennin.... did some things right. just arguing with tankies can get super annoying on stuff like the prc.

            • _else [she/her,they/them]
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              absolutely; have enjoyed the company of tankies before. in every sense.

              can't imagine enjoying time spent with a lib. even more; can't imagine fucking one, the thought is gross.

              and when shit goes down, if I can't find any other anarchists in town, im looking for the communists. and if I can't find them, im maybe looking for the socialists. and when I don't find them either; im grabbing some camo and trying to be very very still until shit blows over or a cop comes close enough without seeing me to grab. (more realistically; fucking dying)

          • Jorick [he/him]
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            Ya don't worry, it's healthy to show skepticism on topics such as this one. People tend to say "tankies" as a casual replacement for "marxist-leninists", but yes, some of them are here just for the aesthetics sadly; and can get annoying sometimes.

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              like I said; they're right here. im coming around to the 'people are not redeemable, fuck em' part of their whole shtick.

              • FUCKTHEPAINTUP [any]
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                No.

                We never say “fuck the people”. That’s absolutely red fash shit. Cut that out.

                Revolutionary violence is fine. Hating people, calling them irredeemable, and wishing for purges is not.

                You were right about the “tankies”, but neither “tankies” nor “anarkiddies” actually understand modern Marxism-Leninism.

                Seek out the Maoists instead. We’re real Communists in real life and know how to do things.

                The majority of the Maoists I know aren’t young white people raised on the imperial core internet. Of course some are. More will be soon...

                They’re Indian. And Chinese. Black. And Latin American. Immigrants. Educated and advanced sections of the working class. Colonized. Decolonized. Career revolutionaries. Of the masses for the masses. They don’t post about Bernie Sanders.

                I know Naxalites. Adults who have actually fought in real revolutions. People who are wonderful and forgiving and great teachers live for more than being a hateful internet avatar.

                Real communists are nothing like internet tankies.

                  • FUCKTHEPAINTUP [any]
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                    The masses will do that by themselves and pick appropriate punishments

                    Coming Soon

                • _else [she/her,they/them]
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                  im being hyperbolic, but my experience of americans genuinely is that a lot of them can't genuinely be part of anything but a D/s relationship-in their pants in their halls of power, and in everything between, and that if you want anything else, they will fight you tooth and nail all the way to the grave.

    • LamontCranston [any]
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      4 years ago

      They also planned to collapse and yet still somehow keep their subversion going 30 years later

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        It's all a multidimensional long game by the Posadists and their alien allies..

    • p_sharikov [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      The communists knew our capitalist economy was inherently unstable and didn't tell us!

    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      I love that there's always footage of civil rights era street clashes.

      "Oh no, the Russians are using our white supremacism to stir up trouble! What can we do to fight this definitely foreign plot!?"

      "You could not be racist."

      "No." cocks gun

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Semi-related: I always found the "abstract art is the result of a conspiracy to promote Marxism in the capitalist west" hilarious because the truth is the literal opposite of that

  • FUCKTHEPAINTUP [any]
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    The agitation is travelling through the superstructure in waves through space and time, accelerated and delocalized by internet connectivity. Our radicalization is watched keenly by the right, and fascists will attempt to mirror us.

    Join us now in the Godard movie, and take shelter in the fortress constructed out of the Little Red Book. Time to start killing fascists.

    4chan: 2020 Communists have discovered woke ultra-violence, and built postmodernist LSD witch cults in the mountains and slums near your suburbs. We are moving undercover with Chinese psy-weapons and AK-47s to fuck your wife with Comrade Freud and Comrade Shakespeare, who are both black now. Fascists will burn in hellworld. Hail Satan. May the anti-Christ continue to lead the vanguard. Amen

  • Jorick [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    For real, I love how the capitalists are just going full mask off on it. Liberals would fucking shoot you if they could, remember that.

  • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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    Jesus fucking Christ this guy. If you watch this whole video the dude is very obviously pushing a fascist narrative at the behest of the CIA who undoubtedly have him conditions for citizenship. I guarantee the whole idea of Active Measures was thought up by James Jesus Angleton.

    • LamontCranston [any]
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      Angleton was gone by the time this guy defected in the 1980s. I read Bob Woodwards book Veil: The Secret Wars of the CIA 1981-1987 and while its a pretty crappy book as Woodward spends most of the time being an uncritical court historian and documenting petty office politics there were a few nuggets in it. One was that William Casey and other high ranking administration officials were absolutely devoted to the writings of Claire Sterling. She had written a book The Terror Network alleging that the Soviets were the masterminds behind every terrorist organization and every act they perpetrated, and every revolutionary group and war going on in the 1970s and '80s and it was all a giant plot to subvert countries to their control and destroy the USA. They refused to believe CIA analysts reports that nothing of the sort was going on, her were had no basis, and was in some instances based on stories the CIA had itself planted in the foreign press. Casey would tell them they needed to be more “imaginative”. But this guy was a grifter, someone was paying for him to stay in the USA be it the birchers or whoever else and it wouldn't be very helpful if he didn't tell them something they wanted to hear.

      • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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        I figured the Active Measures conspiracy would've been an old one in the CIA at that point, and I mentioned Angleton because he was notoriously paranoid to the point of making up these insane conspiracy theories. I definitely don't know that much about the inner politics of the CIA of the 1980s lol.

        But yeah this dude is obviously being paid to scare Americans into loving the CIA and fearing anything left wing.

        • LamontCranston [any]
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          The accusations been around since the beginning, the Birchers in the 1950s were accusing Civil Rights organizers of being Communist plants under Soviet control and even accused Eisenhower of being a Soviet mole. Its just standard for anyone who thinks they're absolutely right, cant comprehend disagreement, cant handle they're not in the majority, and jumps to the conclusion it is all a big plot.

          • Bread_In_Baltimore [he/him]
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            Ironically some of that shit is true. Communists were a huge force in civil rights organizing before WWII and I imagine a lot of the people working on it in the postwar era were Communists who left the party (which was most of them).

            There idea of Eisenhower as a soviet mole is funny as fuck though.

            • LamontCranston [any]
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              4 years ago

              communist =/= taking orders from moscow to dilute our precious bodily fluids

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    They also blamed the highway of death on the Russians last year.

  • snackage [he/him]
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    It's funny how those 4 steps he described is what the US did at and after the fall of the USSR.

  • Healthcare_pls [he/him]
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    Not even worth coming up with a witty comeback for this propaganda drivel...literally smoothbrained beyond definition