We're good friends and I just thought I'd share this with all of you.

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    The war on terror actually led to the murder of an estimated 3-4 million people during the last twenty years. 1 million is just Iraq, this is not including how the destabilization of the region led to the civil war in Syria, it does not include Libya, it does not include Afghanistan, Yemen, Pakistan.

  • duderium [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I like this but disagree because China is definitely doing way more than nothing. Not just anyone can build up their productive forces and navigate an extremely hostile international environment.

    • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Exactly. they've been manufacturing a ton of commodities for European and Amerikkkan consumers for decades. It only looks like they're "doing nothing" because the labor of 2nd and 3rd world countries is always made invisible to 1st worlders by the obfuscation of international trade and resale practices.

    • featured [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      And the international aid and solidarity they’ve shown through infrastructure projects, low/no interest rate loans, international organizations etc which undermine imperialism and are working to create an equitable alternative system of global trade are all huge too

  • iridaniotter [she/her, she/her]
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    1 year ago

    China is not doing nothing. They are doing industrialization and economics so advanced that it has lobotomized every single China watcher who has gazed upon it.

  • BynarsAreOk [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Do nothing, Win*

    *Casually ignore the massive Palestinian lives lost, ignore global south countries like Yemen having to actually do the moral correct thing and certainly paying their own price for it in the future...

    So much winning marx-joker
    You can dunk on the US's mistakes all you want. Don't take pride on sitting on your ass while everyone else has to actually go and fight.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      This has the same energy as saying Iran isn't doing anything because it hasn't reduced Tel Aviv to rubble with cruise missiles.

    • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Okay I kinda get what you’re saying, China could do more certainly, but.

      everyone else has to actually go and fight.

      Mf are you trying to instigate a 3rd world war? Chinese troops engaging American proxies (and let’s be real, covert forces) in any theater on the planet would pretty much be the beginning of world war 3. The only exception is Taiwan because it’s isolated to just the South China Sea.

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    4 months ago

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    • Pluto [he/him, he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      My Chinese friend uses VPN from Shanghai.

      He really "gets" American meme culture lol

  • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    This meme is good because honestly sometimes I read statements from the Chinese state that genuinely sound EXTREMELY forgiving of American crimes and it kinda blows my mind. I’m also aware that during the 2000s and even as late as the mid 2010s there was a sort of “big brother little brother” mentality among the Chinese where development would be secondary to the US but in tandem with it. I don’t know a lot about China, so that could be wrong, but seeing this meme is a nice change of pace and makes me feel like they’re being more realistic about the situation.

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Amerikkkan crackers love to drag out Xinjiang like ICE camps don't exist and the CIA doesn't still operate several extralegal and classified torture dungeons outside of US soil.

        The most deranged accusations of evangelical psychos like zenz were highly curated atrocity propaganda already disproven by UN delegations from Muslim majority nations actually visiting Xinjiang and concluding that a genocide is not occurring. But even if it was true, I'm not going to cheerlead for Uncle Sam or Capitalism under any circumstances. There are no doubt legitimate proletarian criticisms of China to be made, but none of these liberal lemmings are ever interested in that.

        • HornyOnMain
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          1 year ago

          Everytime the quote on quote "Xinjiang concentration camps" get brought up in the news the first thing it makes me think of is how the first time they properly entered the news cycle (as opposed to just getting some token gestures on like fox news and stuff) was two or so days after it was revealed that non-white immigrants to the US were being unconsensually sterilised in ICE camps.

          Basically, every accusation is an admission.

        • Smeagolicious [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          The US operates torture dungeons worse than the libs’ most inhumane parodic versions of the gulags, on US soil! You can’t call these people out on their hypocrisy, it doesn’t work. There is no internally consistent bridge justifying these beliefs in their heads, the evidence just slides off the smooth brain like water off a duck’s back.

            • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              Muslim majority delegations from the UN visited Xinjiang and concluded that the accusations of genocide invented wholecloth by evangelical right wing psychopath Adrian Zenz and parroted uncritically by American media were false. If you live in the United States I welcome you to join me in protesting actual ICE concentration camps instead of manufacturing consent for the fascist US military to go to war with China.

              https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20220810-diplomats-from-30-muslim-countries-visited-chinas-xinjiang-region/

              The US, its allies and the World Uyghur Congress (a CIA front by the way) have accused Beijing of committing genocide against the mostly-Muslim Uyghur ethnic minority which is contested by the Chinese government which claims they are combatting terrorism and separatism.

              In 2019, 22 mostly Western countries in a joint statement to the High Commissioner to the UN condemned China’s crackdown on Uyghur Muslims. However, a day later, 37 other countries signed their own letter defending Beijing’s human rights record, and dismissing the reported detention of up to two million Muslims. Nearly half of the signatories were Muslim-majority nations.

              Why are Muslim majority nations coming to the exact opposite conclusions about Xinjiang as the United Snakes and its allies? Why are you uncritically parroting an imperialist geopolitical narrative invented by the United Snakes and its allies?

              The US's CIA has continually funded extremist separatist groups like ETIM in order to destabilize Xinjiang. Xinjiang's response was to build more schools, more hospitals, more housing, educate people against extremism, and give them jobs. The US and its allies called these concentration camps because it was convenient. Amerikkka spent 20 years bombing Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Somalia and Yemen. They are actively supporting genocide against Palestinians. And I am supposed to believe America and its allies is shedding sincere tears for Muslims in Xinjiang? These are the same fuckers responsible for the Abu Ghraib torture scandal. These are the same fuckers who leveled Fallujah (and used white phosphrous while doing it) after a bunch of blackwater mercenaries got killed. These are the same fuckers who used depleted uranium and gave a whole generation of Iraqis way higher cancer rates than normal, including childhood cancer.

                • privatized_sun [none/use name]
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                  1 year ago

                  you happen to know all that about me based off a handful of comments,

                  my CIA funded liberal NPC dialog is special!!!!

                  you're just so cute when you think you know what's going on

                  says the zero historical materialism mf, you have neofeudal serf mindset, please read a single book lol

                • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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                  1 year ago

                  Ooh you happen to know all that about me based off a handful of comments

                  And you happen to know all about China based off a handful of articles written by some Christian fundamentalists German guy.

                • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  We know you because we've encountered you like 3 hundred million times. This is the average hexbear experience every time another enigmatic, unknowable, bet-you've-never-heard-that-before Very Smart liberal shows up parroting the same old propaganda and cope.

                • Egon
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                  4 months ago

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                • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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                  1 year ago

                  Have you considered posting less if it makes you feel like you're in a slap fight? All they did was ask for evidence for your claim. I realize how hard it must be for you having been insulated from leftist points of view and having never had to consider the idea that you're anything but the good guys. But that's not how the discourse has panned out historically. Best of luck in your personal development, you fucking child.

                • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]
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                  1 year ago

                  We started the slap fight by what? Going into your instance making claims about things we don't know anything about?

        • privatized_sun [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          you should just stop pretending you have it

          You will never hear a redditor condemn Amerikkkan prison slavery because they support it

        • Egon
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          4 months ago

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        • Infamousblt [any]
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          1 year ago

          So you admit you have no morals and you don't care about morality.

          Quite the admission there. You think that helps you somehow?

        • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Have you considered the possibility that the side bombing children in the thousands is lying about the other side?

          That's the first thing I'd do if I was bombing children and wanted people not to think I was evil incarnate.

        • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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          1 year ago

          Genocide is okay when it's entirely fictional.

          Xinjiang doesn't even have travel restrictions for foreigners, you can literally just go there.

        • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          So why does the World Uighur Congress (lmao such a bullshit name) stand with the oppressors in isntrael and not their fellow oppressed people in palestine-heart ?

          Because their people aren't being genocided, they're just a bunch of reactionary gusano trash licking the boot of amerikkka

        • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Basically every single accusation of a Uyghur genocide can be traced back to Adrian Zenz, who believes he's on a fucking 'mission from God' to destroy China.

          https://thegrayzone.com/2021/02/18/us-media-reports-chinese-genocide-relied-on-fraudulent-far-right-researcher/

          • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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            1 year ago

            Not only that but he hasn't shown any proof, his claims come from complete speculation on satellite images. I bet the dude has never even step on China nor does he speak a single word of mandarin or any dialect from the region.

            • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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              1 year ago

              He has shown "proof" a couple times. Like that time he showed proof of China sterilizing people in Xinjiang that actually showed the opposite, because he "accidentally" moved a decimal one place over

    • Infamousblt [any]
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      1 year ago

      You talking about Israel right now? Or the concentration camps on the US border?

        • plinky [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          One is sanctioned by your government, one your government funnels weapons to. Which one is your responsibility? thonk

        • Acute_Engles [he/him, any]
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          1 year ago

          debate-me-debate-me

          This isn't a highschool debate and nobody here has to engage with you in good faith.

          Do you have evidence of the concentration camps?

          • Transporter Room 3@startrek.website
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            1 year ago

            Well since good faith is out the window, I don't have to have my own personal proof, plenty of people have shown evidence, entire governments are in agreement

            Do you have evidence they are all lies?

            • yuritopia [any]
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              1 year ago

              I know being a liberal means your brain’s fried, so I’ll make this simple: There is no genocide in Xinjiang.

              If you disagree with the above statement, then prove it.

            • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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              1 year ago

              Every single news outlet has stopped talking about them, but they'll readily go after anything China does with a rabid zeal matching that of the energy they had in the early 2000's whenever a nation in the Middle East did anything

              Nearly every Muslim nation does not believe 'genocide' happened

              The UN believes no genocide is happening

              That is the evidence it is lies

              Where's your evidence it is true, embedded quotes that trace back to a German anticommunist who believes he is on a mission from God to destroy China? Radio Free Asia, which was FOUNDED to spread anticommunist agitprop?

            • KarlBarqs [he/him, they/them]
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              1 year ago

              entire governments are in agreement

              Yeah and literally all of them are white western US allies contractually obligated to hate China

              Not a single Muslim majority, even those that are US allies, have said shit

            • Awoo [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              entire governments are in agreement

              The muslim ones?

              Oh wait. You mean the white ones. Lmao. Crakkkers.

            • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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              1 year ago

              plenty of people have shown evidence

              Such as?

              entire governments are in agreement

              Any of them Muslim majority nations?

            • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              If there’s plenty of evidence, show it. Show the deaths and sterilizations if they ever happened surely there’s bodies or photos or videos if it’s happening at scale? Where is it?

            • Egon
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              4 months ago

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        • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          LOGICAL FALLACY LOGICAL FALLACY LOGICAL FALLACY LOGICAL FALLACY LOGICAL FALLACY

          smuglord WHAT? Screaming that over and over doesn't mean I win

        • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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          1 year ago

          Maybe Amerikkkans should focus on ending the genocide being done by their close allies rather than supposed genocides other countries that they have no direct influence over are doing.

        • zed_proclaimer [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Why don’t you focus on stopping the genocides you are actually doing than make up hypothetical genocides your enemy may or may not be doing to get mad about? You are guilty of the crimes of genocide if you don’t condemn and oppose America in every way

        • Egon
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          4 months ago

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    • Venus [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Shut up, dumbass. Why do you insist on talking about shit you have no idea about?

    • duderium [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Star Trek liberal who never watched DS9 checking in.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        "Wow I can't believe Garak would just lie about assassinating a Romulan senator for political gain and Sisko would just cover up for him.

        Anyway, I doubt my own government would do that."