• CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      No, the US is VERY good at preventing suicide at Supermax. How often do you hear about that? A lot of them probably really want to kill themselves, but they don't, because the idea is to prolong suffering as much as possible.

      There was just one high profile case of someone in jail who needed to be watched "killing himself", and by pure coincidence, he was one who had a lot of dirt on a lot of rich and powerful people, and him dying was the only surefire way to keep him silent...

    • Galli [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      They have reduced the risk, the outcome is almost completely certain.

        • meme_monster [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          We've taking your blanket and pillow, now strip naked and put on the tear-proof gown for your own safety. We'll wake you every hour to make sure you aren't dead.

          • JuneFall [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            Another word for torture. If they want to know if I am alive give me a damn bluetooth smart watch.

            • bananon [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              But what if you eat the smart watch and choke? Everything’s a weapon, even yourself. That’s why we’re ripping out your teeth so you don’t bite off your tongue and choke on that too.

          • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            You won't be able to kill yourself, but we'll make you wish you could.

    • Kanna [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I seem to remember another high profile case hmm who was it :thinking-about-it:

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      They don't have to suicide him. Locking him in a cage and torturing him forever will still send the intended message to journalists.

  • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The idea that Assange is a "bad guy" for doing what journalist are supposed to do is what gets me heated. He didn't do anything other than report the facts. Sure he is kinda weird and has some iffy past choices (wasn't he a creepo to some women at or something, I don't recall) but the point of him doing nothing other than getting important information out to the masses is somehow "bad" is just bonkers. Worst still, I find it so saddening that entire "media class" and most "popular journalists" just utterly left him out in the cold when they usually circle the wagons to "protect their own".

      • Nakoichi [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Legit channeling Parenti in that clip, that's more than a rant that's fucking powerful. Someone should clip that whole rant, I want to send it to some libs.

      • LGOrcStreetSamurai [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Oh wow, she and I are on the same wavelength for sure (I had not heard this before, I don't listen to TrueAnon though it sounds like from that clip I should). It's so enraging how obviously corrupt the big media companies are. The one of the few times a journalist directly challenges the power structure they go full "It Lives" and spout the lines their told.

    • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      (wasn’t he a creepo to some women at or something, I don’t recall

      He "stealthed" (read: raped) two women allegedly I think....and honestly: dude probably did it. Part of what's frustrating with Assange is that despite how important his work with Wikileaks obviously is: he is probably an egotistical piece of shit and sexual predator on a personal level and that fact is being cynically exploited in bad faith by the powerful to go after him.

      Edit: regarding the allegations: while I think he probably did them they are almost defacto bunk at this point both because the statute of limitations has run out and also because they've been so cynically used that its impossible to view them outside the context of the larger propaganda and smear campaign against him.

      Here's all I'm saying: I believe the allegations against Assange just because on a gut level it lines up with everything I've read about Assange as a person. But, and this is the crucial part gut feeling obviously isn't a good enough standard to convict someone and I do absolutely agree that the United States and western hegemonic forces would 100% drum up false allegations to use cynically against him also. The truth on those charges has essentially been rendered pointless and no longer matters. Even if he is a piece of shit rapist, he's still been turned by the United States and its security industrial complex into a martyr we have to stand behind, and if you ever feel gross for doing that just remember who is really to blame for that.

      • Sotalsta [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        When he was initially saying 'the allegations are made up as a pretext to get me extradited to the US', I thought that was pretty suspect. But in hindsight, once he was out of the embassy, and the US had started the process of getting him extradited, no government had any interest in the case, and the media barely mentions it, even when they're trying to paint him negatively. I don't know what happened but I'm not going to assume he did it.

      • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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        3 years ago

        It's irrelevant because those incidents A: occurred in Sweden, not the US and B: He's not on trial for those alleged crimes

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Whatever we say, goes, *jack!

      Biden is president now, can't forget that part.

    • TeethOrCoat [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Unless the person being extradited is an important citizen of an actual country like the PRC. In that case, whatever the US says doesn't go, the PRC gets what it wants and murica can cry about it.

  • LibsEatPoop [any]
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    3 years ago

    Goddamnit why didn't he just go to Russia like Snowden???

  • Redbolshevik2 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    He'll probably spend the rest of his life being tortured in solitary confinement, as is the MO with American political prisoners.

    • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Ah, but the US promised the UK they're not going to do that. They wouldn't just lie would they?

    • Torenico [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Man torturing people is illegal of course they wont do it because it's illegal like it goes against the law man

  • anastrace [she/her,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    I was surprised it took that long, hell I'm surprised they bothered with the first ruling. There was no way they would say no to the US

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I heard that the US case against Assange is basically in shambles and could fall apart completely. I'm not an expert though so it could be wrong.

    I read something about the incompetent Trump people keeping the case alive past its expiration date, and the Biden people being too embarrassed to just dump it in the garbage.

    • Collatz_problem [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      I think the idea is to drag this shit for as long as possible and then acquit him. Then US will pat themselves on the head for "the rule of law" while potential whistleblowers would still get intimidated.

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The courts of the evil empire giving justice to an enemy of the empire? I'll believe it when I see it.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    US promises to reduce the risk of the Wikileaks founder taking his own life.

    Are they promising to just openly murder him and admit to it this time?