What progress could they possibly be thinking of?

And then there's the classic lib thought process that criticizing or not voting for Dems means voting for Trump.

Link: https://hexbear.net/comment/4460883

  • Yurt_Owl
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    10 months ago

    The abortion access argument is fucking hilarious considering how its going under A DEMOCRAT GOVERNMENT

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      10 months ago

      Right, and Biden Admin has done absolutely nothing about it. Except of course say its a reason why we need to vote Dem, so they can keep doing nothing

    • Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt [he/him, they/them]
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      10 months ago

      Libs will tell you its because not enough dems are in power, completely ignoring all the majorities and even obamas Super Majority where they still didn't codify it. Liberals are professional losers.

    • CTHlurker [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      It gets even funnier when you have the leftist superpower of remembering what happened 2 years ago. In this case it was the decision literally being leaked to the public, which meant that Biden and his administration literally had a whole ass month to prepare for a decision that they KNEW were happening. And what did they do? They sent out a bunch of emails asking for money.

  • beef_curds [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    What progress could they possibly be thinking of?

    Having to bring your own bag to kroger. It's the incrementalist solve for climate change.

    • PKMKII [none/use name]
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      10 months ago

      Complete tangent, but am I the only one who’s noticed that most grocers took the switch to reusable bags as an excuse to no longer have employees bag the groceries and instead have customers do it?

      • Weedian [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        They replaced all the cashiers with self checkouts

      • wopazoo [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        obviously it's so that you can forget to bring your own reusable bag and be forced to purchase a new $3 reusable bag from them angery

      • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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        10 months ago

        Sounds like an American thing, as far back as I remember employees would only pack for you if you asked (i.e had a disability) in the UK and Europe.

    • wopazoo [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      WASHINGTON—Putting forth a less ambitious legislative package in an effort to secure enough votes for passage in the Senate, President Joe Biden announced Wednesday that his original $2 trillion climate plan would be replaced with a scaled-back proposal to purchase a single reusable grocery bag. “For those members of the Democratic caucus who have demanded a more slimmed-down, manageable approach to the catastrophic effects of climate change, I believe we’ve finally reached a compromise in the form of this handy canvas tote bag, which should hold up through years of regular trips to the supermarket,” Biden told reporters in the White House briefing room as he gestured toward a screen that displayed a cotton bag featuring an illustration of a woman and text that read “Jane Austen Is My Homegirl,” an item administration sources confirmed was available from CafePress. “This proposal brings the cost of the plan down to just under $10 plus shipping. While some of you may be concerned this bill doesn’t go far enough, it’s at least a start, and our hope is that in future congressional sessions we will be able to appropriate funding for even more tote bags. Failing to act on the climate crisis is simply not an option. But I believe that as long as nobody spills inside the bag or forgets it on the bus, this new plan will bring us one step closer to reaching our environmental impact goals.” At press time, sources reported the proposal had been slimmed down once more after Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) insisted the reusable bag be dropped and replaced with a more affordable program that would allow for the purchase of a single disposable plastic bag.

      https://www.theonion.com/biden-scales-down-2-trillion-climate-plan-to-single-re-1847901494

  • Great_Leader_Is_Dead
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    10 months ago

    Protecting abortions rights was one of the more compelling "harm reduction" arguments I heard from pro-electoralism progressives, enough to get me to vote hillary-contempt.

    But that ship has clearly sailed on the federal level, the DNC has done Jack shit to codify abortion rights on the federal level. So the real focus now is on the state level. And I don't think who POTUS is really matters much there, Vermont and California aren't gonna shut down planned parenthood just cuz DC said so. So yeah if you wanna keep fighting at the state level go for it, but it's already a lost fight at the federal.

  • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    What do you mean? Biden's made plenty of progress on climate change. From expanding drilling leases on federal lands to building out the LNG infrastructure, which is likely contributing hidden emissions through methane leakage, to making sure that the US is not meeting its share of the emissions reductions necessary to keep the planet under 2 C (i.e., the threshold at which we lose virtually all of our shallow-water coral reefs), he's zealously guarded America's status as the world's #1 climate change contributor.

    Oh and he passed an EV tax credit that's definitely going to mitigate all that, I almost forgot.

      • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        biden-rember "The climate's changing faster now than any time since the Chicxulub impact! That takes a man who can get things done!"

    • ReadFanon [any, any]
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      10 months ago

      which is likely contributing hidden emissions through methane leakage

      Undoubtedly.

      There is no gas infrastructure which does not leak. It's theoretically possible but it's an impractical proposition in real terms and in terms of cost.

      Reminder that methane is about 150x as potent as carbon dioxide over its 11-ish year lifespan in the atmosphere before degrading into, you guessed it, carbon dioxide.

      Good thing that the next 11 years aren't the crunch time for climate change, right?

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    10 months ago

    the-democrat: "As America's left party, we take great pride in doing our best to fulfil Lenin's glorious vision of 'decades where nothing happens'!"

  • plinky [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    0 progress over years since 80s. Someone puts aluminium can collector at whitehouse: nerd thats more than any progress they've done before

  • TheSpectreOfGay [he/him, she/her]
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    10 months ago

    wish libs could figure out that the alternative to voting biden is not voting, not voting for trump

    but they're actually too stupid to consider that

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      Not voting for Biden is voting for Trump.

      Voting for Green Party is voting for Trump.

      Voting for PSL is voting for Trump.

      Voting for anyone except Biden is voting for Trump.

      Unless Biden wins, then voting Libertarian is voting for Biden.

      • envis10n [he/him]
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        10 months ago

        Fuck it. I'm writing in HRC this cycle and you can't stop me.

    • happybadger [he/him]
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      10 months ago

      https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/themes/whitehouse/assets/img/record/inflation-reduction-act-50.png

      I like how nothing here impacts me. Bread costs 50% more than in 2020 and everything at the grocery is being ratfucked more each time I go to the point that I've stopped buying anything that has shrunk. Rent is up 30%, car insurance 40%. The wages offered locally have not changed since 2018.

      Even if the democrats weren't committing genocide, the way they gaslight people about the economy is so fucking disgusting that I'd never vote for them just to avoid associating with them. They're Patrick Bateman holding a rainbow flag upside down.

    • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      10 months ago

      Oh wow, that is cursed

      The first "accomplishment" says they lowered the cost of families everyday expenses. No he didnt. What? horror

      • roux [he/him, they/them]
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        10 months ago

        I mean if you exclude stuff like food, housing, clothing, education, healthcare...

        • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          It was nothing because gas is still expensive as fuck and they did nothing about the price gouging while the oil cartels were making record profits

          • charlie
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            10 months ago

            When gas prices fluctuate, praise the dems it fluctuated down for a tick!

          • OpenStars@startrek.website
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            10 months ago

            What could he do - pass a law through Congress?

            Not that he would have even if he could tho, the Dems are beholden to the illuminati/whatever the same as the Repubs.

            Still, it could have been MUCH worse, arguably, under a Trump second term.

            • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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              10 months ago

              Nationalize gas? Civil asset forfeiture? Send oil executives photos of them taken from a predator drone? Use your imagination, he's the leader of the most powerful empire the world has ever seen, he can do whatever the fuck he wants.

              • OpenStars@startrek.website
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                10 months ago

                Username checks out, but anyway he's still a servant to the people of the USA. Who are somewhat um... "divided" on this or any subject.

                • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
                  hexagon
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                  10 months ago

                  he's still a servant to the people of the USA

                  He's a servant to the ruling class of the USA. That's why he can't/won't do anything thats good for regular people

        • Rom [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          How much of that was the global economy recovering from the pandemic though?

          • OpenStars@startrek.website
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            10 months ago

            Remember the brutal dismemberment of the American journalist, when they "just asked questions"... with a bone saw? (then the entire floor of the hotel needed to be remodeled immediately thereafter)

            So the first opportunity Biden had to talk to the guy who ordered the...ah..."question session", he had a choice laid out before him. Say something about the murder and allow Republicans to use gas prices as the sole indicator of ThE eCoNoMy and take the House and/or Senate in the midterm elections, or keep quiet about it, and see them lowered. He opted for a middle ground approach by saying something about it, but the response was sth like "what was that, a fly buzzing by me? I could not hear you", at which point Biden dropped the subject. And gas stated flowing again, Repubs lost their major marketing campaign strategy, and life moved on. I'm not sure what I would have done in his place - it was a real-life trolly problem, for sure.

            Whatever else happened, and whatever else Biden has done, we know that he WORKED to lower gas prices. He sacrificed his ethics for them in fact. Who knows what Trump would have done in his place - probably he would have high fived the dude and thereby inadvertently started a war:-P.

            • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
              hexagon
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              10 months ago

              He sacrificed his ethics for them in fact

              doubt i don't think you know Biden very well, if you think he had a meaningful code of ethics to sacrifice

        • CTHlurker [he/him]
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          10 months ago

          Didn't he only lower gas prices because the war he started caused them to spike?

          • OpenStars@startrek.website
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            10 months ago

            The war that he started... while Trump was President?

            Or earlier when Obama was President?

            My point is that there is nuance and subtlety - he may not be the greatest President we've ever had, but then again the challenges he faced while in office were significantly more numerous, diverse, and severe than most any other. Even those who started during wars mainly had just that one thing to do, while he had the border (which he's done little about), the economy (similar), the housing crises (same), jobs (same), the pull-out from Afghanistan (which he f%cked up), and the pandemic (this he did a LOT on tho - remember Trump ordered the vaccines to be created, but then he handed them out only to his friends, and they only would get the 1st of 2 doses, and he was going to leave >4/5ths of Americans without access to them at all... the worst return-on-investment that I've ever heard of, which would make those millions of deaths turn into, well, tens of millions, at least). And I am not even smart enough to realize how all the things that he is not doing are helping us. It is not everything, but neither is it nothing, methinks.

            And if we were allowed to have a primary, any of that might actually matter:-D. The DNC remember is not a democratic, government institution - it is a for-profit private one. We might get the illusion of choosing between two sides, but they are the ones who pick the sides. :-|

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    10 months ago

    Biden is the president and he still lost.

    Democrats do nothing but lose even on the rare occasion they're allowed in power. Anything to the left of Hitler has lost every single culture war since 1980 lmao.

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    10 months ago

    Progress is when the backslide isn't instant and complete.

    Progress is when we don't go to bed where all is normal and then in the morning we wake up to hey-nonny-nonny music in a peasant shack covered in pig shit. Progress is when we are not surrounded by 9 starving children that claim to be ours but of which we have no memory. Progress is when the hey-nonny-nonny music that woke us up is not the arrival of the Archduke come to take our strongest children to fight against the frightful invaders with inexplicable technolo-guy (US citizens internally displaced from a blue state who have been pushed out due to rent quintupling as half of the country was mystically transformed into a Medieval Times.)

  • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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    10 months ago

    There's going to be US and UK elections this year where "You have to vote for a dogshit centrist candidate who will change absolutely nothing or le evil conservative populist will get in!!1" will be the constant talking point of both of them marx-doomer

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    10 months ago

    Lemmy shitlibs have a particular posting style

    It's called just making shit up

  • buh [she/her]
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    10 months ago

    This is the least important election of our lives, a record that will be broken by every subsequent election