https://nitter.net/LadPsycho/status/1745855459654074869#m
Really ironic that Yorke and Jonny Greenwood are Zionists since OK Computer was influenced by writers like Chomsky.
Once again, I am vindicated in my choice to not listen
if you want to chase that feeling these articles will enhance the high
https://redsails.org/on-chomsky/
https://dashthered.medium.com/the-anti-chomsk%C3%BFng-66dcd8224729A long slog, but a well sourced and fantastic read.
I went to college in the early 90s and thought Chomsky was full if it back then. Glad to see others on the left voicing the same views.
Lots of people hating on Radiohead here. I fuckin love Radiohead so this really sucks. Now I need some new karaoke songs too ffs. Why couldn't they just be cool
Why couldn't they just be cool
I feel this so much these days. Like motherfucker why couldn't you just be cool? Better to be silent than open your mouth and be known for a fool. I don't look at celebrity news anymore because I'm running low on artists from my childhood.
I don't even know what half my favourite music artists look like for this reason.
she did write harry potter tho. that's a massive L
Fun fact: the miku twitter account that made the original "shut up transphobe, i made Minecraft" joke that inspired this also made a tweet saying that you cant actually seperate Rowling's bigotry from the actual work like you can with Minecraft. Basically saying "Miku made x" isnt an excuse to engage in a work uncritically.
Now, as a Death of the Author guy with some remaining affection for HP from childhood, i do still find "Miku wrote Harry Potter" enjoyable. But i thought it was important to note.
It’s always kinda annoying when people on here shit on the quality of something when it’s found of they’re a shit person. It’s dumb.
well-adjusted people aren't going to out of the blue post about not liking some artist, but if that artist comes up in some context maybe i'll mention that [whoever] sucked anyway
I wouldn’t even call it bad taste, it almost seems like the lack of any taste at all.
I don’t know who that is. I’m not a big reader but I would like to. What do you recommend by them?
Honestly I just grew up listening to them and singing them. I'm a hobbyist singer and Thoms vocal range and tone fits my voice perfectly. I've been singing Radiohead songs in my car and living room and in karaoke bars for like 15 years. It's not gonna be replaceable unfortunately.
I'll have to go back to everyone thinking I'm a weirdo by singing They Might Be Giants songs instead. NOBODY RUIN THEM FOR ME TOO FFS.
People make fun of me for being a DJ but EDM is all I've got left after the bands I grew up with keep getting rightfully cancelled
I also hate They Might be Giants. I don't think they did anything wrong, I just think they're the progeny of nerdy band kids being quirky and writing the Juno soundtrack. Radio head taught band geeks they could make pretentious and boring rock music.
I'm EDM neutral outside of goth shit, most is too outside of my range of taste to have any meaningful thoughts.
I sound like Robert Smith when I sing and it's hard to not do a fake British accent while doing so
Oh yeah I mostly love TMBG because of how fun they are to sing and how annoyed people get when you do. They're so nerdy and that's fun to me. I chose to lean into my nerdiness rather than shy away from it decades ago
You can hate TMBG if you want but if they’re not politically bad then, like, nobody cares, it’s kind of just your opinion. And like with all music, a really subjective on at that.
They have a fun song called Your Racist Friend which is about not tolerating your friend's racist friends, so that would at least suggest that they're OK
Noticing you seem very effected by fanbases and particularly which highschool cliques were into something between this and the Death Note thing. Personally i would advise against that type of thinking.
I've seen some death note and have overheard some amount of radiohead. I am a huge film and tb nerd and an even huge music nerd, Radiohead named themselves after a kinds bad Talking heads song for example. Death Note isn't gonna be my thing cause I'm not very anime and what I do enjoy there is a bit eclectic and odd, my favorite animes are Nichijou, Kino' Journey, Paranoia Agent, the first 3 seasons of Digimon and Medabots. As far as music goes, I've been deep into diy music since my early teens and still trade tapes etc. I know my weird music real well and radiohead don't do much for me, also when you're into music you go to shows and what is or was big affects who's around, radiohead made for worse crowds.
Paranoia Agent, the first 3 seasons of Digimon and Medabots
Ok all else asside, based taste on these three.
Are you not Nichijou pilled? It's uhhhhh...best description is Azumanaga meets Monty Python, Kino's Journey is like a awrene version of Twilight Zone with an androgynous lead who has like 53 guns at all times and a talking motorcycle. But mostly get on Nichijou, it's got the best vibe of anything, I guarantee you will become happy when watching. It's a positive absurdist comedy sketch shown with continuity? Like if Camus wasn't a bummer?
TMBG are pretty explicitly communists, so you're good there
If you like them and RH, there's a good chance you'd like some of King Crimson. I was trying to think of a useful comparison and I think you should check out their song Dinosaur to see what I'm getting at. That is, unless what you really like about Yorke is the wailing, in which case go right to In the Court of the Crimson King.
I really like the wailing yeah haha. Thanks for the suggestion and the affirmation that TMBG are still good!
In the Court of the Crimson King is one of the albums tbh, most people will at least find it interesting.
Saying that, I really like King Crimson. I haven't listened to every album yet, but I like Three of a Perfect Pair and THRAK quite a bit, despite them being albums that aren't often talked about. I need to listen to Larks Tongues in Aspic, because I quite like parts III and IV from ToaPP and The Construkcion of Light.
In the Court is definitely way up there, especially if you just trim the improv part of Moonchild . . . . As you can probably tell from me going to Dinosaur immediately, I also really love THRAK (though a couple songs are dogshit, which is the case for most KC albums after the first). Larks Tongue is great, but now you've got me digging through their albums to remember stuff properly.
Wow, looks like they've made a lot of their EPs and live albums more available finally, but I only know like two of those. Regarding remaining albums: I loved Power to Believe, one of their better ones. Red is solid. Starless is just this side of being too croony, but I like it. Lizard is jank as hell but I like and respect it. In the Wake of Poseidon I could never get into, though it has a couple of good songs. Islands I just totally forgot about to a much deeper degree than the rest of these, though on reflection I think I still like it more than Poseidon. Construkction I just can't stand, but I'm happy for you if you like it.
Massive Attack in the meantime is going beast mode on Twitter sharing stuff like this:
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I'm certain they're fucking awful. I've only heard Creep and I know it's not a typical song ofntheres, but I know for an absolute fact they're fucoing trash
I've only heard Creep and I know it's not a typical song ofntheres
"Not a typical song of theirs" is an understatement. That whole first album is just sort of generic warm fuzzy sounding 90s alt-rock wall of sound stuff, and everything after that is weird experimental stuff that got progressively more incoherent over the years.
With a hate-boner like that, you surely would, but you'd look like less of an asshole if you listened to perhaps a single song from OK Computer or something
(also I'll take you up on that offer of finding something better if it's open
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
motherfucker ruined the suspiria remake.
I mean so did the asshole who thought he'd be the guy to reprise a classic proto black metal soundtrack but in their defense I guess Trent Reznor was busy
I like Suspiria 2018 but that soundtrack felt so out of place. like why the fuck am I hearing weepy ass Thom Yorke in a movie set in 1970s Berlin? some of the instrumentals are good but they should not have let him sing on it
Oh shit. I saw the original Suspiria last year and loved it, the soundtrack of course is a major character in the film and so cool. Since then I have been meaning to check out the teenage with Thom Yorke even though I hate Radiohead (Johnny Greenwood's scores have been pretty good, so).
Good to know though
There really ought to be a comm where people post their favorite artists and then we ruin it for them
/c/killyourheroes
OK Computer was influenced by writers like Chomsky.
Can you elaborate lol
The album's lyrics, written by Yorke, are more abstract compared to his personal, emotional lyrics for The Bends. Critic Alex Ross said the lyrics "seemed a mixture of overheard conversations, techno-speak, and fragments of a harsh diary" with "images of riot police at political rallies, anguished lives in tidy suburbs, yuppies freaking out, sympathetic aliens gliding overhead." Recurring themes include transport, technology, insanity, death, modern British life, globalisation and anti-capitalism. Yorke said: "On this album, the outside world became all there was ... I'm just taking Polaroids of things around me moving too fast." He told Q: "It was like there's a secret camera in a room and it's watching the character who walks in—a different character for each song. The camera's not quite me. It's neutral, emotionless. But not emotionless at all. In fact, the very opposite." Yorke also drew inspiration from books, including Noam Chomsky's political writing, Eric Hobsbawm's The Age of Extremes, Will Hutton's The State We're In, Jonathan Coe's What a Carve Up! and Philip K. Dick's VALIS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_Computer#Music_and_lyrics
This is why I exclusively write lyrics when I'm too drunk to know what the fuck I'm doing.
Well I should have checked that, thanks. I guess the question is can Thom Yorke elaborate on "political writing".
Right wing bands like Radiohead have never been my cup of tea.
I always hated Radiohead, so this doesn't affect me much. Seriously, if I wanted to listen to a guy incoherently piss and moan over the worst techno beats ever, I'd walk into a dive bar with a snare drum.
what a creep. what a weirdo. what the hell is he doing here? he doesn't belong here.
Radiohead are objectively good and people in this thread have shit taste
Just weird "well I didn't like you anyway" contrarian energy
Shit people can be good artists
It's a bit of a tendency to fixate on it that everyone from Fascists to Communists has nowadays - the people accused of bad stuff usually get outraged and go fash at the backlash or whatever.
Pure opportunism, and attempting to salvage a source of high income.
Ultimately, a lot of art is made by people with questionable ideology - often without saying anything about it. I know comrades that enjoy Varg's music (literal Nazi murderer), but I also prefer not to listen to say the Smiths or Ramstein, despite knowing I'd probably enjoy it.
It's a lot of bickering and kind of a dead end in the world of art, but a huge part of modern lib politics where that's the almost only thing you're allowed to truly question and argue about. Listening or not listening to a decent but overrated rock band isn't really going to change much, except for being an offshoot of the lib saying from 10 years ago "vote with your wallet"
AFAIK, Morrissey only went fash after leaving the Smiths, and Johnny Marr is still fine. My dream is to see a Smiths reunion tour where Rick Astley replaces Morrissey.
I'm going to be pretentious and say that I think it's because modern capitalism makes people create and cultivate their identities based upon consumption. People also tend to think that being a good artist and being moral are the same thing, and we also tend to think of art as an extension of the artist. This means that if you consume a piece of art by David Bowie or Radiohead or whatever, you are metaphysically assimilating the artist, and that also makes you immoral by extension.
Yes, I agree completely. It is also a symptom of a wider issue, which is the good vs bad worldview on politics, society, etc. (and people have preconceptions about what "good" and "evil" mean - which: the prevalent ideas in society are those of the ruling class)
i like good thing and don't like bad thing and that makes me good
Cancelling politically suspect mediocrities is fine because fuck ‘em right, but cancelling great artists over politics is myopic and undesirable, when there art is not directly political. In relation to that I would say, for example, that it was fine and good not to publish the anti-Semitic propaganda Celine wrote during WW2, as some publisher wanted to do a few years back; but it would be silly not to read his literary work because he was a Nazi, just as it would be silly to ignore Wagner or Heidegger for the same reason. On the other hand I don’t have a problem with anyone trying to cancel Radiohead, humanity doesn’t really miss anything if we lose them, although I’ll probably still listen to their music.
the Smiths or Ramstein
I dont like them, but tbf the smiths used to be based. Rammstein has decent politics, but one of the members is problematic iirc like antiflag. Its not hard not to listen to cringe people. On the other hand i like to jokingly enjoy stuff like the charlie daniels band.
i think rammstein is more for the sex recruitment thing, but also a german acquaintance had previously mentioned the singer saying a bunch of weird shit a few years ago
speaking of germans, nena sucks now too.
How to Read Ezra Pound
By Martin Espada
At the poets’ panel, after an hour of poets debating Ezra Pound, Abe the Lincoln veteran, remembering the Spanish Civil War, raised his hand and said: If I knew that a fascist was a great poet, I’d shoot him anywayId imprison him in a room where he's only allowed to make poetry.
This is half a joke. But i am anti death penatly, so what happens to a fash who makes good art and isnt rehabable would basically probably be that.
Radiohead is only 'good' to hipsters who have bad taste in music
They're objectively bad. Sorry that you have a copy of Pitchfork magazine in place of a brain.
There not objectively bad but I do think Thom Yorke’s plaintive melancholy dirges benefit a lot from the way Radioheads rhythm section and Greenwood’s instrumentation transform them into something new. They’ve also kind of hit a late/mature stage groove since in Rainbows where I don’t think they really push themselves the way they used to, and their music is becoming less interesting and more predictable.
That they are ‘objectively bad’ is a classic hot take, although usually in response to their crossover appeal/ the amount of ‘normie’ listeners they have, rather than there being Zionists.
Nick Cave is another one whose come out recently refusing to boycott Israel (I think he likened the pressure to bullying or something ridiculous).
Peoples politics are really made by experience. Like a lot of actors for example have reasonably left wing politics because, at some point early in their career they often did experience struggle and exploitation. But a rockstars life is about as pampered as you can get, and the ones that are successful usually find success while their young, so it’s not surprising so many of them have shit politics.
Millennials did that with Pink Floyd when they were getting into music, it happens.
Gen alpha will probably be insufferably into the Strokes.
don't worry many zoomers are also insufferably into The Strokes, including myself sort of
Gen Alpha will probably stan Panic At The Disco or some shit
Gen Alpha will probably stan Panic At The Disco or some shit
Looking forward to this.
