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  • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I wish libs would shut up about Melania's accent and that she's appeared nude. The comparison between Jackie Kennedy wearing some boring outfit that seems like it was out of Mad Men vs Melania being scantily clad once is especially infuriating. They sound like socially conservative nutjobs at this point.

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        She really brings out liberal misogyny and xenophobia. The real 3D chess move would be giving her more public appearances and calling out the hypocrisy, lol.

      • ElGosso [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        By all means, criticize her for the shitty stuff she does, but don't be a shitlib with double standards

      • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        The Jackie Kennedy thing makes it extra weird because at this point the only women we see dressed like that are in period pieces, or the rich women in Handmaid's Tale. The juxtaposition literally looks like a "which was western man" meme.

        • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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          4 years ago

          Why don't libs just use Michelle Obama? Because Jackie is hot? JFK was presi like 80 fucking years ago get some better role models

  • ThisMachinePostsHog [they/them, he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Feeling kinda blackpilled about my ML ideology lately. There’s not a single person in my life that agrees with or supports me. My entire family, my former coworkers, and friends all think I’m a dumb, misled and brainwashed communist. “You don’t understand economics,” “you support murderous regimes,” “read a fucking book,” “breadlines no food lmaoooo.”

    It’s really fucking aggravating that I spend so much of my time reading theory, biographies, and studying to learn more about my ideology, yet I’m the stupid brainwashed one. Do you know how easy it is being a reactionary chud? You literally just live your default life consuming media, sports, games and memes without attempting to look beyond the curtain as to why our society fucking sucks.

    Fucking lonely, man.

    • lilpissbaby [any]
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      4 years ago

      I think remembering all the revolutionaries that came before you and what they've achieved despite everything being stacked against them can be very inspiring and keep the alienation and loneliness at bay.

      also, the obvious one: organize locally if possible.

      • ThisMachinePostsHog [they/them, he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I’ve had those same thoughts. This might be kind of lame to admit, but my happiest interactions with people are with chapos on here. When I talk to my left-leaning friends or interact with left groups on Facebook, I feel ostracized that my beliefs are too radical, and it makes me feel like a fucking incel lol. Like...we got banned from reddit and organized our own space to vibe, and every time I step outside the chapo bubble, I get crap from people complaining about my beliefs and politics that I thought would best understand me. Thus leading to further isolation and less actually talking about my ideologies with people.

      • lilpissbaby [any]
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        4 years ago

        my leftest leftist friend told me a while ago that I’m easily the most radical person she knows. Which… doesn’t bode well?

        that's very a very lib thought that radical = bad. every time the world changed for the better there were people with crazy, radical ideas pushing for that change and making it possible. our own contemporary world and life has been made possible by people like the american revolutionaries and the jacobins.

        but I can’t help but feel like that’s what we’re (I’m) doing here sometimes.

        I do get what you're saying and I feel the same way sometimes. And that's good that we question our beliefs and the people we hang around. I don't think incels and forum-crawling neonazis do the same.
        My political beliefs aren't based upon hatred for my own life and groups of people, but rather that a better world, where people can live with dignity and without exploitation is possible. This the core distinction between left-wing ideologies and far-right ones.

      • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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        4 years ago

        I've thought about this a lot too, because it really feel similar to being gaslit. We're told we're being too radical or whatever and it seems like most people really do believe that. So it's hard pretty normal to have the reaction of "Wait, am i the one in the wrong?" and the answer is probably no.

        Firstly, most of us what want idealogically, other civilizations have established at some point in their history - communalism and caring for the poor and sick. That's not radical or extreme, that's like, a lot of indigenous tribal culture and those values are expressed in even smaller communities as well such as smaller radical churches and so on. Plus like, the actual close-to-communist countries that exist and provide those things to their people with no problem. So it's not like the idea of communism is super extreme out there, it's just in our culture it seems extreme.

        Secondly, ethics and applied moral philosophy exist and use logical, reasoned arguments to show that ethically, we should minimize or reduce harm to others and prevent the spread of harm. We also know that there is no way to have ethical consumption under capitalism. Therefore, logically we are in the right to pick the more ethical and least harmful option of government and stop capitalism.

        Finally, this is perhaps the weakest logical argument but the nature of communalism is closest to human nature. Like think of how much indoctrination goes into making someone a soldier or how much propaganda is used to turn people chuds or libs that are selfish and cruel because they've been taught that's how they're supposed to be to their "lessers". 99/100 people are against communism because of some lie they believed. Which is exactly why people are afraid of bernie saying the scary S word but polling consistently shows that even most americans support increasing minimum wage, free healthcare, more say in their company, free housing etc.

        So i mean, we don't have to fucking lie or indoctrinate people to get them to believe what we do - we just show them actual facts, point out where the propoganda has been tricking them, and introduce people to some theory and educate them. I've actually changed my mind on several issues since joining Chapo because of that, and can now back up all my stances with information supporting my points instead of just some vague "all guns bad" (as one example) thinking i had as a lib

    • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]M
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      4 years ago

      man I’ve been feeling this lately. I’d recommend you Read Pedagogy of the Oppressed, it might help just a tiny bit.

      the other thing I’d suggest is get involve in an org. that normally helps hold the blues at bay.

  • theytakemeawayfrom [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    seeing that the only major coverage of the kenosha shooting is by andy ngo and ian miles cheong really fucks me up. reading the replies to their tweets has made me decide to log off now.

    • artangels [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I’ve been kinda weirded out that my leftie twitter feed hasn’t been much focused on it.

      • QuillQuote [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        the libbiest (and thus largest) parts of the leftsphere starting to get exhausted by the constant protests and police violence?

        • artangels [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          It’s been disappointing to see some people looked up to just stay almost silent.

    • Nik [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It’s about controlling the narrative. Liberals would rather wait “to hear all the facts” before coming to any conclusion besides “rip to whoever died.” Chuds don’t care what the facts are and want to their spin on it. Now all news from here on out will default to what these people first had to say about it, and by the time we learn that’s not true the news cycle will have already moved on

  • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    dang who would've thought that armed reactionaries with the goal of protecting property would do murders

  • ComradeAndy [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I feel rather gaslit that no major news outlets is talking about this shit like wtf

      • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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        4 years ago

        holy shit, i had no idea. That's definitely gonna have some impact further down the supply chain - most soy goes to animal feed. I wouldn't be surprised if meat prices go up.

  • Sankara [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    Not gonna lie, I'm scared. Every day for the last 4-5 years has brought us closer to a larger domestic conflict which will be bigger in scope than anything that we can comprehend at the moment. I just got off the phone with a friend of mine that spoke with certain "radical" people in Wisconsin after the shooting. She told me that the mood is very violent after the massacre and that open carry nature of Wisconsin has some protesters planning to set up themselves in a militia-type configuration in the coming days. What's happening in Kenosha today could be happening in your local city tomorrow and we should prepare ourselves for confrontation, we know how quickly shit could spread with the rapid nature of the Internet. Prayers to all you comrades

    • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      While it certainly is a scary and escalating situation, leftists “setting themselves up in a militia-type configuration” is really the only response to this. Otherwise they’re just sitting ducks out there.

      • Sankara [he/him,any]
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        4 years ago

        Of course, it's the most rational response when the alternative is getting shot by a cop-approved shooter. I just hope it doesn't go too violent tomorrow, because most of us are way too unprepared for similar things happening in our cities.

    • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]M
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      4 years ago

      I just got off the phone with a friend of mine that spoke with certain “radical” people in Wisconsin after the shooting. She told me that the mood is very violent after the massacre and that open carry nature of Wisconsin has some protesters planning to set up themselves in a militia-type configuration in the coming days.

      how do I send this people bullet money or funds.

  • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    The collective orgasm of right wing twitter scares me more than anything. There is a massive part of the country we have to deal with that will absolutely kill us.

    • ComradeAndy [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I do take some solace in the fact they are really a minority. The country has been on fire for months now, if the right was any kind of force to be reckoned with it should have been made clear by now.

      At most we saw the chuds group up in Portland, a bastion of chuddery, that still got beaten back.

      • QuillQuote [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        At the same time, reality doesn't follow a time table, 'should have been made clear by now' is speculation, and it's important we don't underestimate. This could be the start of them making it clear. I don't think it is, but it's important we look at this clear headed

  • coeliacmccarthy [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    watching a bunch of people get killed and/or mutilated live tonight kind of messed me up ngl

    • Spartacus [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      yea this shit sux. i need to log offf.

      'call the police' is trending on twitter right now, because chuds think it's funny that ppl were saying it after witnessing others get shot in the head. not the best of nights, that's for sure

  • Spartacus [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    the fucker admits it in this video https://twitter.com/shmeckeljuice/status/1298508055458582529

    this shit is exhausting fuck

  • artangels [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    libs handwringing about how this is going to "help trump" and "play into his hands" are just as bad as the chuds who spend their entire day traswhing the protesters as 'thugs'

    • hexaflexagonbear [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Definitely not going to handwring about it, but ngl I'm paranoid the protests will lead to a reactionary backlash from suburbanites. But I doubt that will materialize into Trump support necessarily. I feel like we'll end up with a Biden presidency, and a woke veneer for new tough on crime legislation.

      • glimmer_twin [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Stop worrying - the backlash is already happening and has been for some time

    • QuillQuote [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      The libs also call protesters thugs, because they don't really value people they value society and the property on which it's built and when people protest through rioting and property damage...

  • yeahhhhhhhhhboiii [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Comrades, I know everything is super shitty, but please don't give up hope!

    The fact that you're staying alive is standing up against the system.

    Love and hugs for all, <3

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Shit looks super volatile there right now with all the idiots with guns and no discipline whatsoever.

        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          The ones that just popped up in the woke stream were wearing hawaiian shirts.

            • Nakoichi [they/them]
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              4 years ago

              God dammit, I called it. I'm really starting to hate this whole leftist analytical clarity. It's like being cursed with knowledge of the fucking future and I hate it.

              • Spartacus [none/use name]
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                4 years ago

                it's funny because i was thinkin about this earlier this afternoon. you grow up being taught that being right is always the best thing.

                and then u grow up and being right consists of being called wrong everyday by libs and chuds. all while being able to predict a mass shooting spree. lol this shit sux

                    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                      4 years ago

                      I don't know I'm still looking for more info. It's really fuckin bad though.

                        • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                          4 years ago

                          It looks like an AR which are most common in 223 but the mag looks like it might be something bigger. Hard to tell with the blurry pics.

                          That said, even a 223 at point blank in the right spot can result in at least a partially severed arm, like if it hit square in the elbow.