It was literally a war crime as they were retreating, with civilians I might add, as per requested by the UN iirc. There's no wiggle room here.
Also, the US quickly went from working with Saddam to do massive war crimes to "yea, we killed a bunch of Iraqi military and civilians, but that is because we are the good guys"
In a 2003 song called Companheiro Bush , Tom Zé goes:
If you already know
Who sold that bomb to Iraq
Spit it out
I have a hunch that it was Bush
Is that actually a war crime I ask because while it's immoral pretty much nothing counts as a war crime for example it's not a war crime to kill civilians
It is however a crime to kill soldiers "Out of Combat" and the US killed PLO members and their families who had fled Kuwait after Kuwait started to do a pogrom of Palestinian refugees.
Dronies need to stop talking about "Glassing" stuff they're not the fucking Covenant smh
you see it's funny because they want to kill all Arabs. And Arabs live in sand
Isn't "glassing" originally from nukes turning sand to glass? I never really got why what the Covenant does was called that.
Because in the plot of Halo they initiated a hyper speed jump inside Earth’s atmosphere with their gunship and turned a huge chunk of Africa into glass
That wasn't what they called glassing was it? I thought it was the big lasers they were just lining the planet with.
https://www.halopedia.org/Africa
Looks like you were mostly correct. The prophet launched into lightspeed in atmosphere and destroyed the city of Mombassa. Then more covenant ships “glassed” the continent with an orbital bombardment of plasma weapons
In the books, the covenant use a much wider variety of shipborne weapons, and the ones they glass planets with are essentially specialized tools for the purpose of flooding the target planet with hot plasma.
tbh you're probably right I just wanted to get a dank Halo reference in there
It's just a generic term, my only knowledge of halo is the doritos meme
Dollars for donuts, these motherfuckers would get really sensitive if somebody were so flippant about conscripted US soldiers getting killed or POWed in Vietnam, but would never extend that same weepy concern for conscripted Iraqi soldiers we killed in a war of aggression over total bullshit.
Inflation, treat supply chain issues, and ofc critical race theory.
The phrase is "dollars to donuts"
It’s what we say when we’re really sure of ourselves. We’re so confident that we’re making a bet, and we’re betting something valuable against something that’s worth less. If I’m wrong, I’ll pay you money. If you’re wrong, just give me pastry.
You really gotta be a massive fucking nerd to know what the fuck was the sinking of the Belgrano. Bet he has 300 hours on those map-games
Hell I probably have 300 hours in those map games and I'd still never heard of it.
No the stupidest war ever was WW1 which was also the stupidest thing ever
Yeah but that was a proper war, the Malvinas shitshow is just beyond stupid
Yeah but still, evil empires invading each other cuz their inbreds rulers got too high on lead is less stupid than Malvinas and it had some kind of good outcomes I guess :ussr-cry:
millions of people died in WW1 it was one of the worst things that happened in the 20th century.
A light cruiser bought by Argentina from the US in the early 50s that served all the way up until 1982. The ship itself took part in the coup against Peron in 1955 and even bombed it's own installations (a bunch of refineries) as part of the plan to overthrow Perón, along with it's sister ship Nueve de Julio. Here I want to note the absolute lack of sympathy I have for the Argentinian Navy, which even attempted to use the guns of battleship Moreno (which was a 1914s ship) to bomb it's own country in the middle of the coup, it's main battery (305 mm guns) were trained and ready to be fired but didn't do so in the end as Perón fled the country.
Belgrano was to be decomissioned and possibly scrapped by 1983 with the arrival of modern units, but the military decided to strike in 1982 and the old ship was pressed into service. Eventually it found itself navigating south of the islands outside of the exclusion zone, in an out, zig-zagging, as part of a southern strike force that would cooperate with the argentinian aircraft carrier Veinticinco de Mayo to converge on the british task force. Bad weather prevented the operation from being carried out and Belgrano was soon caught by HMS Conqueror, a nuclear submarine, which fired a spread of torpedoes that sealed Belgrano's fate, one of it's escorts were also hit by a torpedoe that failed to detonate, these ships were late WW2 US navy designs.
I have nothing to do this friday night so there you go!
fun fact about the Belgrano, it was once called USS phoenix
the same USS Phoenix that survived pearl harbour
Hmmm, not sure if it qualifies as a war crime. The thing with Belgrano is that it was entering and leaving the exclusion zone and making erratic moves, it wasn't there for no reason, it was a threat to the British naval forces as it was the southern group that would strike at the British if the order was given. Even the commanding officers at the ship understood that what they were doing was ridiculously dangerous, even they understood that the British acted in a "understandable way". The captain of the ship itself, who survived the sinking, even admitted that it was "fine", he regrets the loss of the ship but he saw it as a legitimate target and the action to sink it was also legitimate. It is also true that by the time the ship was struck by torpedoes, it was actually moving away from the combat zone.. but it could easily making a U turn and come back.
From what I know, the British govt. sent the Argentinian military junta a message through the Swiss embassy: the exclusion zone was not a limit to British military actions, they would strike at any enemy unit that posed a threat to them. There were cases were the British simply did not fire at Argentinian units that were outside of the exclusion zone, early on when the Royal Navy was making it's way to the islands, the Argentinian Air Force sent repurposed airliners for long-range maritime patrols that ended up spotting and relaying the position of the ships back the Buenos Aires, the British spotted the planes back and could have sent jets or missiles their way but they didn't. Also the Argentines planned an attack on Gibraltar (Operation Algeciras) that used italian-style frogmen to blow up a british warship in port, which wasn't carried out. And to top it all off, the military invasion of South Georgia island by the Argentinian military, that in the end saw the destruction of an old USN WW2-era submarine ARA Santa Fe that was carrying out a supply run. So I don't know, here in Argentina the exclusion zone argument is brought up only when it's convenient...
You really gotta be a massive fucking nerd to know what the fuck was the sinking of the Belgrano
:thonk-cri: I have been owned. To be fair I mostly know about it as it forms part of my Thatcher hate brain library, dunno if that makes it better though...
Yeah, I'm going to hide behind the fact that if you're a Brit of a certain age you probably know.
Their response, literally : "um actually it's ok because they weren't classified as some french term"
These are the 1940s Anglo Germans who weren't technically Nazis but were passively okay with slaughtering minorities as long as the line went up.
i have a bernese mountain dog and i can say for a fact other "berner" owners are fucking freaks
A good rule but another I go by is "never cede a point to Thather"
Also Saddam was also a fascist no? So do you agree with the OP that neither counts?
these people are definitely real. i'm sure they're the average West Point graduate.
