:long-corbyn:
let's be real Starmer couldn't win even if there were no other parties
Upper-Class Twit of the Year Voice - "I welcome the British people to collectively vote for no one"
Partridge voice: "I welcome the voters choosing to abandon Labour, but I would encourage them to go further and vote twice for the Tories so I won't have to even pretend at governing."
"Aw shucks, I was so close to winning and then Corbyn just had to go and fuck me over, because he's clearly still very upset about how the honest media and our amazing journalists treated him. Looks like we're purging everybody left of Tony Blair in revenge for his heino-- somebody whispers in his ear --wait, we don't have anybody left of Blair in the party anymore?"
As a resident of terf/nonce/plague island (against my will), not only would I :vote: for Corbyn's party, I would run for election myself then claim it was rigged when I lose
But wha' am I supposed to do wif a tallywhackah if I can' whack i'?
wouldn't it be a really funny prank if the liberal web community hexbear.net pooled its resources to help @VolcelPolice win an election, like as a bit?
We don't need to win, we just need to organise. It could be used to mobilise a lot of Corbyn's younger base to look deeper than student loans, and actually work within their communities
I printed the forms to run once, but it costs a few hundred £ to register iirc but I think it's refunded if you get over a certain %
Joining a sugar baby dating app and writing "a young breedable Marx looking to findom an Engels"
It doesn't matter, they'll co-opt anything. The Japanese Communist Party is literally neolib
Communist Party of England (Marxist-Lenninist-Maoist-Stalinist) (Libs fuck off, pls) (no seriously, common man)
That should do it, right?
Nah more like socdem but still (maybe they are going dengist now idk)
The Anti-Grilling Party for Rudeness and Uncivil Discourse (Marxist-Leninist) should do it.
What if instead of focusing on making your party name socialist... you made your party's activities and praxis socialist? :carlin-pog:
I'm pretty sure you just have to actually have discipline over who joins to begin with. And then kick out people who turn out to be wreckers.
their bourgeois neolib party is literally called Labour, so i feel like you'd have to go pretty hard
Party for the Expropriation of Capital and the Public Management of Production. PECPuMP
If the libs really believed what they claimed about losing because of "long Corbyn," they would welcome this
:long-corbyn:
:pete: where I come from, folks are less concerned about long covid and more concerned about long corbyn.
They will welcome another boogeyman to blame all their failings on for sure.
Such a move could split the Labour vote and prevent Sir Keir [sic] Starmer from winning the next General Election
I really don't think sir Keith needs Corbyn's help on this.
It's crazy how patently obvious Starmer's entire purpose was to eliminate all left elements from Labour, I don't event think they could honestly weaponize the "split the vote" narrative at this point lol
Liberals have the short term memory of goldfish when it suits them. They'll do the "split the vote" thing and the hysteria will surpass that of the weaponised antisemitism allegations. They have so much institutional control over the media that this will be the dominant story and people will believe it no matter if it's true or not. Corbyn will become one of Britain's most hated men.
Split party so that zoomers and millenials can take over a party in which the centre is democratic socialists.
Could splitting off like this even be successful? Not that there's much alternative of course
At least in a parliamentary system (versus the garbage we have in the US), if you get over a certain % threshold you get representation. In the US system third parties make no sense. In a parliamentary system... eh maybe?
you also have to consider the different ways of counting success, in the Leninist sense (which is the best way of viewing it) the goal is to get the things you want to happen. If you look at it that way Nigel Farage is one of the most successful politicians in recent British history and he only ever ran a niche political party
I don't think that's true for the UK, I thought they were fully FPTP like Canada? So it would depend on local support
Correct. UK election is basically 650 separate local elections with FPTP winner takes all model.
more like winner takes office how big your actual majority is makes a big difference
This is definitely not the case in the UK. It's a first-past-the-post system, which means you can notionally win 49% of the vote and still not get a single seat. UKIP got like a million votes in 2015 (?) and still never won a seat
UK is FPTP with comparatively small ridings. Small parties are best served by targeting specific ridings instead of trying to run up the vote in ridings they cannot win.
Assuming there's still a contingent of (mostly young) people that support Corbyn personally, I would think it could at least do as well as the Greens or LibDems.
If the only thing it ever achieves is losing the current Labour Party seats it's worth it because fuck them, but frankly I don't expect anything to come of it.
It would piss off a lot of shitty people, that's at least something
