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David Leonhardt is ~15 years younger than Friedman and Brooks. They are dipshit generalists and he's just a dipshit covid specialist but I do believe he could come into his own in the very near future.

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    3 年前

    You know how I can tell this columnist (or anyone else for that matter) is a selfish prick? Seeing COVID only in terms of personal risk and not societal risk. I wear a mask more so I don't potentially get more vulnerable people sick.

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 年前

      personal risk [vs] societal risk

      It really is shocking to me how many Americans can't see that at all. And it's not exactly rocket science. It's about as simple as can be.

      • Mother [any]
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        3 年前

        All fun and games until you get in a car accident and there’s no ambulances

    • chiefecula [none/use name]
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      3 年前

      yeah, masks are basically completely useless at stopping you from getting covid, everyone should wear masks so they don't spread the disease to other people

      on one hand, it baffles me how many people don't understand this simple fact, but on the other hand if everyone knew that then everyone would immediately stop wearing masks so it's better this way

      • OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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        3 年前

        If exploitation of the global south stopped overnight, the US would absolutely collapse harder than any civilization has in history.

        How the hell can anything get done in a country where the attitude is "caring is for losers"?

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    3 年前

    Yes David why are young people scared of having their life expectancy cut at least a decade short?

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 年前

      GOP ghouls are creepy as fuck. But at least everybody with a working brain knows they they are only playing a game to seem to be decent because it's expected. Lib ghouls are creepy in a different way. Tthey'd get indignant and angry if you accurately called them a ghoul right to their face. I'm certain Leonhardt thinks of himself as a good person with empathy. But he's all wrong. He's a bad person with zero empathy.

    • Kanna [she/her]
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      3 年前

      Suddenly having a decade less is a great motivator and I'm sure many great innovations will come from the new Covid grindset. This columnist makes complete sense :amerikkka-clap:

  • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
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    3 年前

    Older people fear death less. At least 20% of the older population would rather die than go a week without visiting their favorite diner

    But seriously, young people would more likely be exposed to covid involuntarily at work, while minimizing voluntary exposure by socially interacting with people online

    Older folks are often retired or work less front facing jobs, limiting involuntary exposure. Most of the things that make their lives worth living require voluntary exposure to covid. When you have to choose "risk serious illness or never see your friends for years", the brain probably makes that risk seem more reasonable, not to mention all the propaganda they get fed

    Source: took a psychology class in college and kinda made this up as I went along

    • cawsby [he/him]
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      3 年前

      Also, tons of adult children are living with their parents. Multi-generational living in the US is at 70+ year high.

      Part of it is covid and part of it is some major metros completely bonkers real estate prices, but without the cost of rent/mortgage and all that entails many people are choosing to work as little as possible.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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      3 年前

      This is a lot of my feelings on it. I’m more willing to go to a bar than to go to work every day. Risk from the bar is higher but at least it’s fun and happy and I get to see my friends. Work is such a dumb way to get sick, work is lame, it’s not worth the risk

  • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 年前

    Because one of those demographics has acceptable health insurance, sick time, and savings.

    Also one of them kinda knows how to vet information on the internet to cut out bullshit like this

  • MasterShakeVoice [undecided]
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    3 年前

    "there is no rational explanation for younger Democrats responding worse to my unsolicited dick pics than older Democrats"

  • Kanna [she/her]
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    3 年前

    Yeah, cause long covid definitely isn't a thing people of all ages are still dealing with

    • wifom [they/them]
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      3 年前

      My "scared straight" moment with long covid was when Jayson Tatum, an elite NBA player who was like 21 years old at the time, caught the original covid strain so bad that he had serious fatigue and lung problems (had to use an inhaler before games) for like 6+ months. Even with triple vax anyone who tells me they are ok with getting covid because it's "inevitable" is a total moron imo

      • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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        3 年前

        In other sport too. Especially association football where you need to run for 90 mins, players are dropping like fly left and right with trouble breathing after getting Covid

          • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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            3 年前

            That sub is a shitehole with bad take 99% of the time when it come to politic or Covid, even willing to defend murder and rapist. It comprises of chud and lib.

  • Saint [he/him]
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    3 年前

    Even if you entirely accept the premise, what the fuck is his point? Either young Democrats are too worried or old Democrats aren't worried enough. The disagreement tells us nothing about which direction the discrepancy is in. So is the point just that Democrats are silly because two subgroups don't have consistent beliefs, or what?

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 年前

      I wonder if he's the sort of turd who can't admit he's wrong so he just doubles down and triples down and quadruples down and... He's totally a crazy person when he writes about covid - https://hexbear.net/post/170668/comment/2107008

      • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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        3 年前

        Everyone is crazy and somehow become a phd holder in epidemiology now a day. Guess that why the US amass 900 K counting death , because of these pretender while in China, after they experience Wu Han, most peoples scare and listen to the scientists, while the dissidents quickly stamp out

        • inshallah2 [none/use name]
          hexagon
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          3 年前

          Everyone is crazy and somehow become a phd holder in epidemiology

          What amazes me is that even around 2005ish when I was on Myspace - people were starting to refuse to say "I don't know..." or "I'll have to check..." or "I was wrong..." And now people being crazy and being an expert on everything while knowing nothing is fully normalized. It's truly a golden age for people like Joe Rogan. No wonder Spotify gave him $100 million for his shit podcast.

          • Nakoichi [they/them]
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            3 年前

            I work at one of those shitty grift stores that sells a bunch of bullshit supplements and I get so fucking many of these people. Like fuck off Karen I'm not manually typing in the barcode on your homeopathic snake oil, red lasers are putting out less intense "radiation" than the overhead fluorescent lighting, and they're literally just sugar pills.

            These dipshits all think they know better than the entire international scientific community because some dipshit energy healing guru told them some bullshit that confirmed their own preconceived biases.

          • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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            3 年前

            Being an "expert" means nothing tbf, and it's absolutely a good thing that ordinary people feel confident enough to tell off "professionals" (who are inherently biased in their research to follow who writes the checks). You don't need a PhD to read papers and argue, unless you're a midwit who needs the trump card of "muh piece of paper, muh W O R K".

            • spectre [he/him]
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              3 年前

              It's totally fine and good to be critical of people with formal educations and degrees and such, but this is not the take tbh

              • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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                3 年前

                I get where you're coming from, but the way this take is worded always rubs me the wrong way because it's exactly the same as foreign policy ghouls who spout off shit about how "wow, everyone is suddenly an expert about {COUNTRY WE WANT TO INVADE} whenever people call out the blatant bullshit and consent manufacturing. "SCIENCE" works the same way, especially considering that people who claim to be "experts" in the media are more like entertainers than people who do research.

                • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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                  3 年前

                  Agree. But when we talking about expert, we talked about science community from multiple country that agree on set of concrete data that have mask is good, vaccine is good, getting virus run wild is not good. Not those expert that paid by Lockheed Martin that present fake ass data

        • CommunistBear [he/him]
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          3 年前

          Wuhan was the thing that pointed out how serious this was to me too. A city bigger than NYC was shut down almost over night. It really put the seriousness of the situation into perspective. No government is going to organize that level of resources and manpower for no reason.

    • NaturalsNotInIt [any]
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      3 年前

      There is none. If you look at the data, there's hardly any difference

      https://mobile.twitter.com/DLeonhardt/status/1488169466819137538?cxt=HHwWhMCytdqPhacpAAAA

      Young Dems are slightly more likely to be "very worried" (14% vs 5%), and 18-49 Year olds are more likely to be "Somewhat" worried rather than "Not Too". What is the difference between somewhat and not too worried? Nothing!

  • Chapo_is_Red [he/him]
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    3 年前

    This works both ways; by the same token one could claim older Dems are less rational than younger Dems.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    3 年前

    Leonhardt was born in Manhattan,[13] the son of Joan (née Alexander) and Robert Leonhardt.[14] His father was Jewish and his mother was Protestant.[15] His father was the head of the French-American School of New York.[14] Leonhardt graduated from Horace Mann School in Riverdale, New York, in 1990, and then continued his studies at Yale University, graduating in 1994 with a Bachelor of Science degree in applied mathematics.[16] At Yale, Leonhardt served as editor-in-chief of the Yale Daily News.[17

    Fancylad can't understand why the poors wouldn't want to die for him.

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 年前

      I did a quick scan of his Wikipedia page to see what I'd find after I started the thread. In fact - after reading that quoted stuff - I googled his dad but I got nowhere. I really wanted my hunch to be proven right that Leonhardt comes from serious old money. He has that stench about him.

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        3 年前

        You definitely don't become the headmaster of the French-American School of New York unless your grandfather owned the racism factory. That family is swimming in some kind of blood.

    • nohaybanda [he/him]
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      3 年前

      And getting really buttmad whenever a socialist calls you out on your ignorance, cause your whole identity is being a teacher's pet know-it-all.

    • inshallah2 [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      3 年前

      Usually if you say "They just write the same column over and over..." - it's an allegory. But that mother fucker has been copy and pasting plus he needed to do a little editing by replacing "delta" with "omicron". Jesus fuck.

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    3 年前

    I love this take. Why would young people care about old people? We're all just atomised selfish perfectly spherical Homo Economii.

    Also if median levels of Covid anxiety are correct, then older people are "irrationally not worried".