Live updates | French exit polls show victory for Macron
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French polling agencies are projecting that centrist incumbent Emmanuel Macron will win France’s presidential runoff Sunday, beating far right rival Marine Le Pen in a tight race that was clouded by the Ukraine war and saw a surge in support for extremist ideas.

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    • DeathToBritain [she/her, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      she's also massively softened on her anti NATO and anti EU stance lmao. they're basically the same fucking candidate. Macron is a neo lib who's racist and Le Pen is a racist who's neo lib

      • ViveLaCommune [any]
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        3 years ago

        though Le Pen is way more open about it and that invigorates armed fascists in the streets way too fucking much

  • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Coulda been Mélenchon :sadness:

    But now it seems he's trying to become PM and oppose Macron from that position. idk how France's system works but it seems like it gives a lot of power to the president unlike other parliamentary systems which are more focused on the PM, is that right?

    Edit: although he seems to be confident he could pretty much sideline the president from the PM position

    He reminded voters it was the PM not the president who signed off government decrees. “I would be prime minister not by the grace and favour of M Macron or Mme Le Pen, but because the French wanted it,” he said, adding it would make the president “secondary”. He ruled out any negotiation with the new president.

    • grym [she/her, comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      it's weird because in the french 5th republic the president has insane powers, but if the majority of the assembly is against the president he can be sidelined on a lot of things. He would still be able to slow things down or force some things, but the assembly would be able to do things without him (although not as quickly, it would have to be implemented as a law, takes longer, etc), and would be able to block/push-back against him a lot.

      The reason the president is so insanely strong is because usually, with the parliementary elections setup right after the presidential ones, the president tends to get a majority so the parliement is kinda useless (just an extension of the president, aligned with them), but if the parliement is against them then it can seriously block the president and even govern mostly without him. Then again, it's a weird situation and it's not gonna be easy, it could lead to an unstable government with deadlocks or the president dismissing the assembly every time he doesn't like them or something, and given the situation right now if shit is unstable enough I would not be surprised if the police and/or army try to just take over. The right and far-right are still very powerful, and the police and army are overwhelmingly right and far-right.

    • lutteurdeclasse2 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      weird French republic constitutional debate about the President /PM relations, but anyway it's very unlikely Macron won't get a majority, and even more unlikely that melenchon gets one (he only won 17 seats in 2017)

  • Torenico [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    • Le Pen didn't win the elections!

    • Nice!

    • But Macron won them though

    • Damn.

    • ViveLaCommune [any]
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      3 years ago

      spoiler : there wasn't much people but we still got gassed and trapped

      under macron protests are completely surrounded by cops, and they dictate the speed at which we advance. when the hour is up, we get trapped, gassed, beaten until everyone's gone.

      so protests are effectively forbidden unless autorized, not the other way round.

  • HarryLime [any]
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    3 years ago

    Ooh sacre bleu! Ve elected le neoliberal raciste to beat le neoliberal raciste! Hon hon hon!

  • invo_rt [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Refreshing how short French elections were. It wasn't a two year long shit show

    • ViveLaCommune [any]
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      3 years ago

      to note it was a no-campaign from Macron. just cruising to victory. the more you shut the fuck up the more people vote for you. Le Pen did the same.

      • invo_rt [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        That seems to be a trend in the US as well. I've been noticing more politicians just not doing debates and shit. I mean, I guess it worked for Biden lol

  • cawsby [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    first time ever that a governing president of the Fifth Republic has been re-elected

    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/24/ukraine-putin-united-nations-00027383

    • StuporTrooper [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      I don't disagree with the take here. Will the UN negotiating directly with Russia actually accomplish anything?

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    Interesting turnout from the left. Overseas territories leaned MLP very hard but the leftists on mainland France turned out strongly.

    Will be interesting to see whether the left can win the prime minister vote. There's a chance.

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      66, so he dropped 8 points lol. Though 58 is still a pretty good result for him.

  • VernetheJules [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    look we might have not liked Macron but he was a better choice than LePen!

    I know reddit is very US-centric but seeing the comments there is really adding weight to my "time is a circle" hypothesis