Living with parents is fine and good but personally anytime Ive been a NEET its been living in an absolutely soul rending limbo where time just stops meaning anything real.
Yeah I agree with that. I was out of work for a month and a half once and that wore me down so much
It's been over 2 years now, I'm unemployed and no longer understand how to function as a human.
I don't know if I'll ever be able to reintegrate into society.
You'd be surprised, only take a a couple months to get sucked back into the employment grind once you pick up a job. I was out of work for a year during COVID and got right back in basically overnight when I managed to land a nice office gig. Before that I was unemployed for a year and a half living in a charity home with my mom and siblings, also managed to slide right back into work when I got a job then too.
It can seem daunting when you're in the limbo, but most (at least "entry level" or "service") jobs are full of a ton of people who are working just for the exact amount they need to pay rent and get drunk or participate in hobbies. Made really good friends working with the wretched refuse of society. The proles are alright.
5 years and 2 months here. My hope is that I will be able to get on disability for mental health reasons 🙏
As much as the culturally-instilled guilt and shame of being unemployed (and getting welfare) hurts me, I do not miss my previous jobs and would rather be kicked in the nuts every day than have to work again.
I do not miss my previous jobs and would rather be kicked in the nuts every day than have to work again.
That's what I don't get. All these people saying not working is soul-crushing...huh? Have they even been to work? Get up early, drive a car, work for some boss you fucking hate, get home exhausted with no energy to do anything but go to bed so you can do it all again the next day? Now that's soul-crushing.
Sitting at home? Make art! It's what humans do when they have idle time.
Now I havent been a neet for much more than 6 months but I definitely would prefer it over a real job. Thank god my job is just browsing the internet.
It took me years of my life (between part-time jobs and such) to learn how to properly be a NEET, manage my own time, and put effort into meaningful hobbies and projects that bring me life satisfaction and dopamine hits. It really is a skill and it doesn't come naturally to us, especially when our entire lives are spent doing things within the structure of larger institutions like work and school that hand down our tasks to us.
Now I have a full-time job though and it feels pretty good, as much as I've had to put most of my hobbies on the chopping block.
I graduated last month and my job doesn't start until the 27th this month and I've been losing my mind a little :agony-shivering:
Also i swear its fucking with my memory
Having to move out of your parents place the second you turn 18 is this weird Anglo, capitalist ideal that needs to die.
It is designed to make sure you are unable to care fornyour self well, pay extra for everything, and prevents the development of authentic cultural identity so disney becomes your real parents.
and prevents the development of authentic cultural identity so disney becomes your real parents.
The sad part: it has worked extremely well on millions of people
I know kids who had to pay rent to their parents after reaching 18 lol
I've seen these people who live with their parents into adulthood and have children. It sucks. You're under your parents' thumb for everything. Particularly your wife who doesn't even get to live with her parents, she gets to live with some strangers she didn't marry. Of course, she never does anything right according to the grandparents. Free babysitting, I guess, right? Sure, if you want your kid spoiled and taught ridiculous superstitions while you're at work.
When you live with your parents until adulthood, you're never independent. All you are is an appendage of "the family". You have no existence for yourself. Oh, and just wait until other people notice and start dropping off their kids on you because you seem to be responsible and they never wanted kids anyway, just had them because they were expected to.
I don’t know many cultures that expect married couples to live in their parents house. Usually it’s just the kid who gets to live there until they get married
Nah, it's an entire extended family living together. It was the human norm until the individualist West changed it. It still is the norm in many countries across the world.
I was in the same place a few years ago. Life is still hard but it's slowly getting better. Just remember that you only can only do that once, and you can only ever know if something is the right decision afterwards. Be patient and take it one day at a time comrade.
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Thanks for saying this. I kept almost doing so myself when skimming the thread earlier but just couldn't muster up the will to write it. I am in a very similar situation to what you describe and it's truly hell. I've been a wage slave before and I desperately wish I could be again, because it would be vastly better than this utterly isolated pseudo existence I live now. But severe mental health (and minor physical health) issues make it impossible.
Be careful, Jordan Peterson has made a living out of appealing to men in your exact situation.
I would rather fund 100 NEETs than a single billionaire
There's also the value of just being there sometimes. Attending a performance, eating at a restaurant, purchasing art all allow someone to pursue their dreams even though they don't produce anything.
In a way that might be more relevant to the communist project, someone who has the time and know-how to monitor social media for long periods of time can be invaluable in emergency situations where people are checking in and posting about conditions online, but no assistance has arrived yet. If you have a team of people who know how to do some impromptu emergency-time first responder shit, having a NEET or two to step in and help coordinate can make a huge difference. And that’s just one example
But that's still them performing some action. I'm talking about the necessary parts of society that are inaction. Art is essential for humanity, but if we all just made art and no one looked at it that would be maddening. There's also all the work that isn't art but needs to be seen or attended in some way. So we need people to just be there sometimes, no matter what they have done or who they are.
Oh I see what you mean. Like I’m addition to NEET people having value in terms of labor that’s not traditionally compensated, consumption itself is valuable even though it’s hijacked under capitalism
"Human beings have no inherent value unless they are wagecucking for soyciety im just saying billionaires are badder bcuz they dont get to really work so i can try nd remain logically consistent"
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So do regular parents who didn't plan on caring for a third person into their 70s :shrug-outta-hecks:
EDIT: People think they can bait me into an argument :dont-laugh: gotta try harder than that
Cope, they shouldve thought about every realistic eventuality before they tried to bring another person into this world. Its literally the same as when normies have kids and then get pissed if they turn out to be autistic/ND or queer or both, I mean my dumb motherfucker in christ YOU signed up for this shit JFL
*And now you're coping because you know you said some whack shit and are trying to darktriadmaxx LARP your way out of getting owned further, there is no argument to be had, it was over for you and your christcuck dogmatist mindset before it began.
Living with family is good. Reject modernity and thr anglo nuclear family. Embrace tradion, have a troup and territory.
I've seen that and it's hell. I knew one man who was married and naturally his parents moved in. They had a kid so the three rooms were kid's, his and his wife's and grandparents. Then grandpa's brother and wife want to move in because it's so nice there and they have a shit house. He wasn't even consulted. He comes to me complaining now there's a middle aged couple living on his sofa. I told him to buy a bigger apartment because more relatives would likely be moving in soon.
I have never understood people clowning on "NEET" people. Like you elect to just chill the fuck out and can afford to do so with family connections or whatever fortune has allowed this them to just kick and be "do nothings" seems fine to me. They tend to be harmless and if that's how they want to live that's fine by me. Personally I wouldn't enjoy it but if it works for them why does soceity at large think it's cool to make fun of the person who lives at their parents home past some arbitrary age limit? There seems like better reasons to dunk on someone, but living at your parents place and just being a "loser" seems fine to me.
I'm not a NEET, however I know many a NEET. They are pretty chill for the most part, only one is legitimately a jerk-wad. I assume you mean "call yourself" in the general sense and not directed at me personally, I assume this cause I assume all folks on hexbear are just joking a bit but in good faith.
My larger point is that I think it's okay to be layabout if one wants to be, and if one isn't too taxing on those around you I don't see the harm it. Personally, I find it lack self-actualization but at the same time I don't value in just throwing yourself into the thresher that is modern life. Again I wouldn't want that life-path and couldn't if I wanted to for various financial reasons but in the larger leftist-y sense I would assume we would want to create a world where the folks who want to NEET could NEET without shame.
Its because liberal subjects typically like to pathologically bully anyone "weaker" than them for fun/a rise in social hierarchy and NEETs are very low on the socioeconomic caste system so they are an easy target
Mom expert here. Moms can have little a banana weed, as a treat. But be careful, moms only do this when they're EXTREMELY upset!
I'm in college and I live with my mom during the summer and I have no idea if everyone here is being ironic or what but it made me feel a lot better about myself :crush:
The idea that everyone needs to immediately move out of home as soon as they hit 18 is pure Westoid brainrot.
Assert Sigmoid dominance. :gigachad-hd:
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j/k be nice :kitty-cri-texas:
Like “you need to find a place soon” kicking out or “you no longer live here after the 1st” kicking out?
That's the fun part. Every time they've done something with a time limit like this, they say the first part of your comment, but in reality they already have a date in mind but just dont tell me
Jeez that’s shit. Pretty sure you either have squatters’ rights or some sort of protections if they claim you as a dependent, but I know that doesn’t help it feel better to be treated that way by your family
I mean, they've done a hell of a lot for me. They just suck at telling me shit. When I was 13 I didnt know we lost the house until a day before we had to start packing, for example. I would also love to move out but I cant even afford a studio apartment
Yeah I don’t mean to imply anything about your parents in general. It’s still them treating you a certain way, whether they’re malicious about it or not. I don’t wanna keep trying to troubleshoot your situation if you’re just venting though. Regardless, I hope you find a way to stay safe, comrade.
I've got people I could lean on, but I really dont wanna put them through that. I'm sure I'll be fine, it's just really stress-inducing. thanks for talking with me :meow-hug:
There are places like hostels that offer monthly rentals. Usually cheap and you get a common room to socialize in.
It's not ironic. I'm NEET right now. Living with friends while I look for work (and browse hexbear). I don't believe in making fun of people discarded by capitalism.
Oh I see now. Yeah it's a little more rude than a meme I would make myself. Renters with jobs have more freedom than NEETs, so I don't know if I would call it punching down though. Both groups should band together and take down the landed elites.
I neet outside of my parents home due to our welfare system. If you can tolerate living with your parents though, absolutely do
Australia. It's not easy, they don't give you much, and everyone calls you a piece of shit constantly, and most of it goes to the landlord, but you can do it indefinitely.
Is it enough to be "happy" on? Sounds like you're making end meet right?
It, uh, is not very self actualising, and sometimes I dip into red if there's an unexpected expense, but it's survivable and certainly plenty of people around the word have it worse.
ah, that's better than what we get in my province in Canada.
if you're on regular welfare (not Disability) they will make you hand in monthly job reports, where they expect you to have applied for 3 jobs per day 5 days a week. and you might be forced to attend a mandatory "job club" or some other humiliating waste of time.
wonder what % of your welfare goes to the landlord over there. I'm extremely lucky to live in a place where it's only a little over 50% of my income that goes to rent... If I ever got kicked out and had to find a new place, I literally would not be able to rent my own place (nevermind buy food) with the lousy ass rates
Yeah, I'm on reduced work capacity, so I don't have to do the job search thing as much. I think it's 20 jobs per month updated fortnightly, but the system changes a lot (it's changing again next month). I'm at about 50% in a 3-way share apartment. That's about as good as it gets. A few years ago they did a review of rental listings that cost the recommended maximum 30%, and only 7 properties in the entire country would be that for welfare recipients. If I try to live by myself, I'd be pretty lucky to only be spending 70% though.
I cant find the emoji right now someone help me out. The family guy one with the skin scale
Thanks what a weird name.
Anyway its
:us-foreign-policy: <---Social Security
<-----Welfare queen
Living with your parents is lowering your neighbors property values and making you harder to exploit so we’re going to pass a law to ban this arrangement.
