The horror film follows a "feral" Pooh and Piglet as they go on a slasher rampage after Christopher Robin abandons them.
This only became possible this year when the first Winnie The Pooh book entered public domain.
This should be a creepypasta, not a whole ass movie that costs money to make
Non-zero chance there will be a Xi Jinping joke made by liberals/reactionaries
don't tell them about Disneyland Shanghai and its Pooh themed gift shop !! 😱 😱 😱
Non-zero chance there will be some sort of China joke in the script.
Disney is actually behind this as evidence of why copyright forever is good.
It's a pretty solid argument. Not enough to win me over, of course, but credit where credit is due.
Everyone complains about grimdark but that is why fairy tales were before corporate media force sanitized everything. Complaining about dark and gritty is the liberal inside your head reminding you they exist.
It takes place in an enchanted forest of wonder. It totes is fairy tail though.
Not exactly. Pooh does have a landlord, mr sanderz so clealry some bad stuff is going on
I'd be into that over "just throw rust and blood over everything and have lots of quotable smirking sociopath quips."
This should be an intro to Pooh, the first person shooter videogame
tried to drive us out, bring in creatures from the woods downriver.
Pooh isn't just volkisch, he's anti-immigrant and a believer in the Great Replacement conspiracy theory. Does the Hundred Acre Wood have Q, too?
What you think you look like : :stalin-pipe:
What you actually look like: :very-intelligent:
But you can see how the uneducated media consumer would see the two as similar and not have strong feelings about the differences tho?
So because credulous consumers would mistake one for the other, that justifies Flanderizing every fantasy setting into a rusty bloody schlocky mess? :bugs-no:
Why not skilled and masterful works to inspire people to something like it? That's driven the arts for basically forever. Not sure how much staying power shitty derivative works would have when it comes to motivating people.
I mean, sometimes when I try to read a really bad novel, I feel motivated to do better, sure, but I wouldn't have started writing in the first place if I didn't have good novels to read to get me started.
Is that an option on the table? Under capitalism we kinda get what we get and it took alot of garbage to allow there to be capacity for intresting stuff to come out. How many dumb terrible movies allowed evil dead for example. As you said they have no real staying power so over any set period time they functionally don't exist so there isn't much longterm harm.
I'm a huge fan of Evil Dead/Army of Darkness, and that said, I have no good answer.
There is no answer. This is a fundamental contradiction we have found. We can just hope something good comes out of this. One of the directors who got a job because the industry was willing to try new people on low budget schlock ends up doing good art. That is the entirety od the 70s into the 80s so maybe we can do it again. That's be fun.
Some grimdark enjoyers want grimdark everywhere. It's why these things are written, produced, and directed this way.
I won't go that far myself, but to me it's still as annoying (at best) as some weed guy that wants to stick le weed into everything, no matter what.
What if thing you already knew about decades ago... but now edgier? That never gets old! :so-true:
That doesn't particularly sound like a glowing endorsement of putting grimdark everywhere.
That'd be like a rebooted Cosby Show where drugging and raping women is a central plot element.
It is not a glowing endorsement. People who are unironically grimdark heads are sus. In that there is such a places as the media landscape grimdark should exist in it though. By existing it gives people more freedom to explore ideas. We have been alienated from parts of our ability to craft narrative and we should be able to learn of it. Even if it mostly sucks though.
Ehh, a surpriseing ammount of his stuff is about that actually. There is an episode of the cosby show where he spikes bbq sauce with like spanish fly. It turns out he was never subtle.
By existing it gives people more freedom to explore ideas.
I disagree here, because what is made is what the producers want with some input from what the marketing department says will sell (based upon prior offerings), selling it into utterly banal redundancy until something new is tried that instead gets copied to death.
I don't think grimdark is in any danger of being wiped out by criticism. Far from it. If anything wipes out the grimdark fad, it will be oversaturation of itself until enough people are really, really tired of it and stop paying to see it in sufficient numbers.
A similar argument could be made that fanservice-laden creepy "loli" isekai/harem anime supposely "gives people more freedom to explore ideas" when the same ideas are pushed again and again by market forces pandering to hikkikomori and otaku that are the big spenders and buy the merch. Sure, sometimes a novelty can be squeezed in here and there but I don't see "more freedom" as much as gasps of creative license attempted within an increasingly cramped series of genre cliches.
I feel like erotic works are functionally diffrent than other works. You have some point, but I dont feel it is exactly applicable. However, at least of my cohort most people I know who had to figure out who they were got started with terrible fan fiction so there was infact a value to that being available.
I am trying to think of some clean example of outaider art pushing the overton window and allowing more viable products to have ideas in them. You are right since market intensification in movies that things have gotten just overall worse.
Since I brought it up already, I believe the glut of fanservice in mainstream big moneymaking anime/manga sort of leaps over the "erotic" line like a cresting tidal wave. It doesn't have to be ecchi/hentai at all but often it seems obligated have mandatory pantyshots and dubiously aged characters and waifu tropes, all to keep hitting the same buttons for the same big spenders.
And obviously that sucks. Capitlaism do be like that. And the market for titty harem anime existing being required to make the two good ones viable isn't worth the opportunity cost. But that kinda thing is going to exost no matter what and at least we get the two good ones out of the deal.
But yeah, there are a coupple of shows that I like that got fucked over by the fact that they could only aford art studios that only know how to draw ecchi art oe whatever
Enchanted forests must always have grimdark elements. Always. Even in generations-old settings that never had them to begin with.
It is an over correction true. But this is how we are provessing decades of right wing indoctrination.
Plus pooh did invent that one porn genera. He gets stuck suspiciously
But this is how we are provessing decades of right wing indoctrination.
It's not the only way to process it.
Amphibia is quite recent, and rich sociopaths with god complexes are the main threat in the setting, but instead of doing the tried and true "everyone left alive for longer than a few episodes is a sociopathic asshole, also there's rust and grime on everything" formula, it's a colorful cartoon that dares to focus instead on nice people that mean well.
How come none of the "I'm stuck" porn has a happy face or antlers placed on the stuck person's ass?
It's the Hundred Acre Wood, which is not even that large. It's not enchanted, it's just a forest.
I feel that Pooh didn't deserve this. But hey, internet sociopaths love this sort of shit. It just has that "Barney the dinosaur is the SPAWN OF SATAN!!!" chud vibe all over it.
its totes fairy tail
You can tell because the power of friendship and comradery always win
Don't like criticism of the thing? Don't read the criticism. :gigachad:
"Stop putting grimdark into my stories about witches eating children and girls sawing off parts of their own feet to fit a shoe!"
True. That said, subverting the happy and lovable into the terrifying and horrific has been a horror trope for a long, long, long time. Killer clowns and creepy dolls are so commonly used in horror that they're a bit cliche now.
oh boy i sure bet the libs wont be unbearably insufferable with this!
this movie is good because it raises public domain awareness
This world needs anthropomorphic/sapient bears.
Imagine if Smokey the Bear was real. No one would be leaving campsites with ashes unburied once a few campers were eaten as examples.
Grizzly bears don't attack people. Only on rare occasions, and it's usually bears that are starving and humans who leave food out. Or if you camp out directly in the middle of their highways like Timothy Treadwell.
For real? I thought that was only true of black bears because they're more docile, but that could definitely just be regional folk knowledge.
Imagine if Smokey the Bear was real.
Come join us!
:speech-r::hexbear-shining: :cube-cub: :bear-despair: :downbear: :bear-chill: :chonky-bear: :sicko-hexbear: :ursus-hexagonia:
it’s actually real what
like seriously why make a horror film based on winnie the pooh
I hope there's a scene where he eats a bunch of blood out of a jar labeled "blud", and he ultimately gets defeated after he gets stuck halfway in a trash compactor or something.
If there isnt a scene with Piglet in a wind tunnel, its a 0/10 from me
I enjoy those things as well, but do not have high hopes.
Thankfully even more than good horror movies I loooove shitty horror movies
I like both too but I don't need to take the things I like and grind them into powder and mix them to make shakes.
I'm not hopeful about this "old thing, now with grimdark!" slop.
I know Pooh is public domain but this is clearly based off the Disney design. Are there legal issues with that?
The Mouse has dealt swift and brutal legal penalties for less. And then returned to Valhalla to rest and feast.
How come there's not a single blood and honor joke ITT
Something easy like "looks like they changed the original title "blood and honor" and I guess the film no longer takes place in the Ukraine now???"
