The Pursuit of Happyness is really bad. Will Smith's inspirational moment is going to the New York Stock Exchange and seeing all the happy rich guys in suits walking around, and wanting to be like them. Having to do stuff like brown-nose executives, sleep in train station bathrooms and pull his son out of daycare due to lack of money are presented not as flaws of the system but evidence of Smith's smart bootstraps-oriented thinking. This movie is the Mein Kampf of liberalism.
Idiocracy -- the whole thing is a eugenics take on poor people are genetically stupid people and vice versa, and their "out of control" breeding vs the smart, civil minded rich people creates a world that's run by the genetically poor stupid people
I don't think Mike Judge went in trying to make a pro-eugenics movie, but that's sure as shit what a lot of people got out of it. Death of the author and all.
And then there's Anastasia (1997), where the message is literally “communism is bad because it got in the way of the Romanovs having fancy parties and wearing expensive clothes”. The Bolsheviks literally enter the Winter Palace through a magic portal created by Rasputin.
No they're not named. But what it does explicitly state is that the discontent against the noble Romanovs was literally fermented by demons, and the male lead in one of the palace servants and helps her and her mother escape. Then in the next scene the opening musical number is the people of
St PetersburgPetrogradLeningrad singing and dancing in the streets at the rumor that a Romanov princess survived, and they quickly shut up when a commissar (hammer and sickle on his cap) looks at them angrily.I also have to say, it's a really strange choice that the two leads (and members of the royal family) are the only characters designed to look like
realuncanny people, and everyone else looks like a caricature.it’s a really strange choice that the two leads (and members of the royal family) are the only characters designed to look like real uncanny people, and everyone else looks like a caricature.
White (coded) people are the main characters of human history. Only white people can be good and free and intelligent and adventurous.
I mean real talk I suspect the two leads are animated using some measure of rotoscoping or motion capture and that's the main reason for it
Also funny thing about this, the real message of the film is about why all forms of public transportation are bad, so yes this is one of the most lib films ever
Oh super lib, but it's Bluth Company and it has this banger COME MY MINIONS
Also, the film is 100x less Lib/reactionary than the musical, which makes the anti-communism that's kind of dream-like in the film pretty much explicit through some KGB agent as the bad guy instead of undead Rasputin.
I saw the musical in London which just added to the liberalism :chefs-kiss:
I clapped when the romanovs died
This gave me the mental image of someone cheering, hooting, taking off their shirt, and flailing it in circles over their head while shouting "Encore! Encore! Again! Again!" as the Romanovs are gunned down in a musical, and I am all for it :owned:
Do they literally call them KGB? god libs are historically illiterate
It's been a minute and I had a cold when I saw it so I'm not certain but that's how I remember it.
Black Panther, for all the self evident reasons and the advocating for the CIA illegally overthrowing third world governments
From last time (two years ago)
The Green Mile (1999): Takes the “magic negro” trope to what may very well be the record height (dude literally uses telepathy and healing miracles to solve white people’s problems), and encourages the audience to feel bad for a death row corrections officer named Paul as he spends three hours of screen time standing by and doing nothing to halt the execution of an innocent black man. This experience ultimately troubles Paul enough for him to resign from death row and take up a new, noble career in juvenile corrections.
what the fuck its been more than 2 years?
oh god :kitty-cri-screm:
Religulous is just Bill Maher acting like the smug scum sucking piece of shit he is while he pretends he's smarter than everyone else in the room for 75 minutes.
The scene where he condescends to the truckers for believing in a magic man in the sky. Like they’re on the road huddled into this truck stop chapel and he comes in a full suit like, “don’t you think this is silly?” and everyone’s still really nice and patient with him like they’re handling a child.
Out of all the ways he could have Spoken Truth To Power with religion in the US, are these really the people we give a shit about?
Yeah he should've gone after Bush and the neocons and their dominionist view of eternal American empire, but he actually was a fan of the war on terror so I guess that was fine.
Out of all the ways he could have Spoken Truth To Power with religion in the US, are these really the people we give a shit about?
That's exactly it, it was never about speaking truth to power nearly as much as sneering at "yokels". There is another scene that I think is from that movie where he's in just the tiniest, shittiest church I've seen in my entire life just harassing the handful of people who are there for believing in God, and I think that planted the seed for my outgrowing New Atheism far before I could ever articulate it. His behavior is just so revolting and hateful there.
Reddit New Atheism and its consequences, up to and including the :jordan-eboy-peterson: cult bringing them back to Supply Side Jesus.
TBH Reddit NuAtheism is a product of Bush-era creationist/Muslim-bashing from characters like Maher rather than vice versa
I remember watching this at like, 14, a freshly minted Enlightened Centrist Atheist 4Chan DebateBro, and still thinking, holy fuck, this guy is an idiot.
we watched that in a philosophy 101 class to dunk on how bad his arguments were, it was like it was tailor made to be ripped apart by 19 year olds lmfao
Forest Gump. Film was so lib the author hated it. There was a great thread the other day on here about it
Tbf reading the book summary it sounds like basically the exact same type of shit happens, except even more cartoonish and I guess Jenny doesnt die until the second book.
Not sure what specifically the author hated but I cant imagine it would be the overall lib great man stuff.
Edit: Also apparently in the sequel Forrest is responsible for breaking the Berlin wall, is involved in Iran-Contra and capturing Saddam Hussein during the gulf war then releasing him.
Edit: Also apparently in the sequel Forrest is responsible for breaking the Berlin wall, is involved in Iran-Contra and capturing Saddam Hussein during the gulf war then releasing him.
im so high, is this real?
Great Man Theory: The Movie, except where the Great Man is just powered by so much destiny that he fails upwards without even trying. :my-hero:
LMAOO the sequel sounds like it could actually be good if it was written by the right person, just a guy goofing around and accidentally ending up being apart of several major historical events
Kind of reminds me of Polish film "How I Unleashed World War II"
The biggest difference if I recall correctly, is that in the book Forest ends up homeless with Lt. Dan. Thats why hes on the bench talking to people. He's not a millionaire "great man" boot straps guy.
Just looking at the events of the plot is not enough. The point is that the book was a satire and the movie producers went "this, unironically".
Zootopia isn't exactly a work of :LIB: theory, but it's a great example of :LIB: attempts at allegory
It gave us the Zootopia abortion fan comic,and for that we must give thanks
Zootopia must have convinced at least some pro cop liberal furries to join up and beat minorities
Finally, a kind of furry that I have a problem with
Yaaaas girlcop slayyyy
wait no dont slay people oh god
No joke, one of the most influential and insidious pieces of :liberalism: propaganda to come out this generation. It starts with horniness for the bunny cop, it ends with :brainworms:
Ready Player One.
World is a fuck. People are addicted to VR copium loaded with bazinga nostalgia references because there is no imaginable future of anything else for them. Stale :lmayo: ego-insert protagonist embraces his epic destiny and does absolutely fucking nothing to change anything except now he rules the status quo. Bazinga!
If the sequel ever became a movie it'd be even more liberalism because it's a giant apologia treatment for corporate surveilliance states, psychological manipulation tricks, and of course the liberal fever dream revenge fantasy classic of "I guess you ungrateful rabble don't appreciate the genius of the billionaires so the billionaires are going into space now and they're taking their harem with them."
The sequel also has purely cynical liberal tokenism. "Oh, you thought my characters acted a bit transphobic in the last book? Well here's a trans character."
There is room in the bazinga writer's masturbatory waifu harem for a trannnnsssss. :capitalist-woke:
Still waiting for your truth about Ready Player One, bucko. :jordan-eboy-peterson:
I can't believe the wrecker came into the comfy movie thread.
:logo:
Not only a wrecker, but a sloppy one. This is the wrong comment chain, genius.
Comrade Amogus would like to hear your Ready Player One take before you are banned and make your next cringe wrecker account. :sus-soviet:
but if u want to know my ready player one take instead it’s that i haven’t watched it because i hate video games
You are qualified to make an excellent Zizek review of the film, then. :zizek-joy:
Great review. I reference things a lot, but I try to find things the other person likes when I do it, and can just talk normally if someone has no shared media or just doesn't like it.
Unironically, not watching the film can be great for reviews. The :citations-needed: review of Hillbilly Elegy follows the Zizek model as well, and it's great.
At this point it's been so built up I want to see what the truth is! Mods need to give him enough time to compose this mind-bending take :galaxy-brain:
What a weird bit. On the brightside you are just a freak, you aren't pretending to be a real leftist. Anyway good luck with your raw meat cubes or whatever the current "rugged male" thing is.
Just realized "Interstellar" from Nolan deserves to be here. No need to actually save the Earth, magical plot quantum black holes and future human space gods will save us! All history is predetermined by a magic providence.
What bugs me is earlier Nolan films (especially the Prestige) are very cynical. It's all just a trick, and you should find pleasure in the trick and its entertainment. His more recent films have gotten very "woo woo" liberalism though. No need to actually address society anymore, just magic things (Tenet suffered from this too!).
Even the Batman films were basically whitewashing of Bush-era policies. Kidnapping people in order for them to be within your jurisdiction to imprison. Creating tools for mass surveillance, but it’s okay because we put it in the hands of the good guys. Bane was originally written to have much more sympathetic class conscious motivations. But they removed the part where Commissioner Gordon revealed that the crime crackdowns justified with the lie surrounding Harvey Dent’s death didn’t even work. They were just padding numbers to fit a narrative around crime like politicians always do. They made this giant symbolic sacrifice and if wasn’t worth it and that’s why Bane had the sway that he did.
as a huge batman fan and leftist i’ll always hate the dark trilogy (dark knight is solid though mainly due to heath ledger but still flawed). the original quadrilogy (yes even batman & robin) and the new batman are far superior to nolan’s
One thing I appreciate about The Dark Knight is the climax with the two ferries with bombs on them. It was an explicit repudiation of the dark premise of the Batman series, where some people are just violent sickos at heart who need to be beaten up by vigilantes.
Oh yes, yes it does.
It only added to the :brainworms: of the "mankind must leave the cradle, humans must become an interplanetary species" escapist fantasies of liberals that never want to even dial back their consumption.
Not saying it wouldn't, but when it's billionaires with god complexes fantasizing about increasingly wasteful and convoluted "spacesteads" to escape what little taxes and legal liabilities that may have inconvenienced them, then masking that all in Manifest Destiny ideology, the appeal is lost.
Tenet is one of the worst movies I've ever seen in my entire life. Having the protagonist literally scream "I AM THE PROTAGONIST!" was a level of shit I had never thought possible.
Yeah it's crazy how much Nolan has lost his mojo. The Prestige is fucking great, has some fun twists. Tenet was basically entirely predictable. When he fights himself the first time I just instantly understood and realized how dumb it would be.
Kept hoping for more. There wasn't any more.
i know interstellar isn’t anywhere close to perfect but my god that movie captivates me every time i see it
Hey just because a movie is :lib: doesn't mean it can't be good or entertaining.
I don't agree with that interpretation of Interstellar, it kind of requires the viewer to think that everything in the movie could actually happen in real life.
The Post (2017), which is all about a fabulously wealthy, heroic girlboss newspaper executive taking on a crooked president threatening our democracy (take THAT drumpf)
I think it's much easier to just put all movies into the :LIB: bucket and try to sort out the few gems that aren't
Nah, Sorry To Bother You
Still telling though because it had to be marketed as a surreal dark comedy
Sorry To Bother You was a good watch. We watched it on cy.tube like a year and a half ago.
Battle of Brest Fortress
"I know you're a good man. A communist..." and so on and so on
Great thread idea.
I will admit this is not "pure liberalism" since it has some ostensible critiques of liberalism. It's also a great film, unlike "The Pursuit of Happiness". But I present, for your entertainment, the :LIB: brain of "You've Got Mail"
- Meg Ryan starts off with the ostensibly "liberal" David Brooks (it's always David Brooks in my mind). The big reason that she breaks up with him is he's pissed that she's not sufficiently mad that her aunt fucked Franco. (for those who haven't seen, yes, THAT Franco. Fucking fascists was a pretty great laugh in the late 90's i guess!) Also, she didn't :vote:. Note how confused these politics are. On the one hand, it's performatively anti-fascist. On the other hand, it's basically :LIB: vote shaming.
- Tom Hanks's corporate overlord Borders destroys Meg Ryan's petit bourgeois bookstore. This is all played entirely inconsequentially. Meg Ryan's actual finances are never really in danger - instead, it's just the history of her family store being destroyed. There's never material stakes - indeed, Franco's mistress just works there for shits and giggles, since she bought Intel stock super cheap.
- Back to David Brooks - his big act of resistance to the corporate bookstore is to write an op-ed praising his girlfriend's bookstore. This is like, maximum New York Media :sicko-spin: - literally imagining that writing some Atlantic article can change things. Of course (and here, this is why it's good, since it clearly recognizes the limits of liberalism) the op-ed also does jack shit - Meg Ryan still goes out of business.
- The nostalgia for the petit bourgeois "small shops" is a red herring, since the closure of the business allows for Meg Ryan to become a children's book author. From one form of "small business" to another.
I think that the advantage of this film over others (and why it's not the purest uncut liberalism) is that Nora Ephron is smart enough to leave space where one can, if they squinted, see a critique of capital in this movie. However, the late 90's vibes (and just the genre of romcom) does a great job hiding it. Starship Troopers, this is not.
Wonder Woman to name another
Wonder Woman's sequel was even more liberal with its "the status quo is so good that all you have to do is convince the entire world to :vote: for it" message.
I had issues with cheering on a literal god as she slaughters 18 year old conscripts on Armistice Day.
Wonder Woman has one of the worst examples of "carving a bloody swath through a bunch of drafted mooks and then having a moral quandary over what to do with the evil mastermind war criminal" that I've ever seen.
spend an entire movie reinforcing the concept that humans are independently capable of meaningless slaughter
get to the end and wow, it really was just humans all along. how refreshing
LOL jk it was evil mustache man all along!! shake all that introspection out of your ear canal like pool water on a summer afternoon, it's time to watch CGI fight :so-true:
genuinely hate the first wonder woman movie and idk anyone else irl that does it’s like the only universally praised dceu movie
