https://twitter.com/StrewthQueen/status/1553253076009488384
Very normal country where the fash fucks are spreading news calling LGBTQ+ people as groomers but this is considered normal in their eyes.
I mean I think this is oriented toward a couple that might be agreed 21/22 and the other is 19/20 if I felt like being charitable. I think they wrote the sign to be parallel to the legal language which is the real issue
Keep forgetting under 21 is a "minor" for alcohol in America. 18? Go ahead and fight in our Imperialist wars, get addicted to cigarettes, buy a gun, or star in a hardcore porn. But don't you even think about getting a beer.
it's just a dogwhistle for racism, they give zero shits about states rights if it conflicts with their goals. which is why they will surely try to ban abortion in all 50 states.
also, they give even less of a shit about municipal or local autonomy. red states constantly fuck with blue municipalities passing simple ordinances like plastic bag bans or changing their zoning laws to not be suburban-sprawl-required. Texas is especially bad with this
they cannot be honest with themselves even, otherwise the cognitive dissonance would be too strong and they'd jump ship (if they have any shred of morality) or just accept fascism.
well, if you look upthread, there are 3 states with no minimum age for marriage, 21 in which a 14/15 year old can get married, and a total of 43 in which people under 18 can be married.
so it could be either things. death to america.
because it is located in the USA or one of its de facto colonies
anyone who doesn't want to kill literally every single living thing in the borders of the empire is an inhuman monster. just.... nuke it from orbit. maybe when the land is safe, it will be clean.
does it vary by state like that? that's sort of what I think too, but I've never seen a sign in any bar I've worked at or been to that said anyone under 21 could be allowed in even with their parents. I've worked at restaurant bars that were just sort of off to the side from the main dining areas with no physical separation, and kids had to stay like 10 feet away even if their parents were sitting at the bar.
It definitely varies by state, I've seen "unless with parent/guardian or spouse" posted at liquor stores in places.
)I'd love to come into this thread an emphatically call OP a dope cause it's not like someone under 18 would be allowed to be married anyway so it obviously only pertains to people between 18-21, but that's not true in all states so this sign is implicitly welcoming child brides if it's in some states
It explicitly is legal in many states for a minor to marry if they have the parent's permission.
Anyone remember those A Series of Unfortunate Events books?
This was important to the plot of the first book. Count Olaf was trying to marry the oldest child to get her fortune, and it was only possible because her guardian- him- consented lmao. That overrode HER need to consent
I think liquor stores are different, my parents used to take me sometimes when I was a kid and I still see people with kids at liquor stores. you just have to be 21 to buy stuff there. but bars are actually serving alcohol and I've never seen a child in one, it doesn't really make sense to allow minors in since they can't legally drink anyway
In Alabama, I had a Walmart cashier who wouldn't sell to me because she thought my ID was fake. I went to 'put it back,' and just checked out at another register.
It's asinine
It's bullshit but now that I'm over 30 I feel old and get depressed if they don't ask me for ID
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I’ve been in bars on afternoons in Italy in which whole families were present.
This backwards ass country still holds onto that dumb puritanical notion that we can possibly make kids aware that alcohol exists. Which of course means by the time their 16 or 17 they’re primed to start overdoing the forbidden thing. How many more tragic multi-person car wrecks of drunk teenagers do we have endure before we understand this?
As someone who grew up in a country where every highschool had a bar for students and where parents would volunteer to serve booze at teenage parties to make sure kids got drunk in a safe environment all of this American neurosis seems weird to me.
Like so many things in America it's Evangelical Baptist brainworms.
When I was 18 there were three states that would let me drink in a bar if accompanied by a parent. One was Wisconsin, I don't remember the other two. I had a White Russian.
was that pre or post 2000? just to understand the time frame
I used to order white Russians at clubs when I was a piece of shit 22 year old lmao
In the US, you need a specific license that is more restrictive than the general one for serving alcohol if you want to be able to have attended minors on site. I think England has the same general framework (with different ages and requirements) but I have no idea about anywhere else.I'm dumb lolto be able to have attended minors on site
sorry I'm confused lol. does that mean in a bar? or a restaurant that serves alcohol with a bar in it? I always thought that bars in the US were only for people of legal drinking age with no exceptions. and the biggest appeal of going to bar areas in restaurants for me is there's no kids around
Hmm, I actually don't know. I probably should have considered the fact that I don't drink and almost never go to such places in the first place, and therefore I should keep my mouth shut :ohnoes:
It might be a regional thing but my partners mom took her to bars when she was underage (18-20ish). Some of them even turned a blind eye to her mom buying her alcohol. this was in like suburbs of a city not even in the boonies
Parents buying alcohol for kids (at something like a restaurant) is allowed in these states: Connecticut, Louisiana, Mississippi, Nevada, Ohio, Texas, Wisconsin, Wyoming
Weird, feels almost unamerican to me tbh. These were in dive bars not like Applebees which I think would make slightly more sense than the bar to me but :shrug-outta-hecks:
Technically the US has no federal drinking age, it’s just that every state has the same drinking age of 21. The federal gov will take away a big chunk of highway funding if they have it lower than 21 if I remember right.
This also leads to the exact specifics of the law being different in each state. Some states only the government can operate liquor stores, some you can buy liquor in grocery stores, sometimes bars let minors in, sometimes 18+, sometimes 21+.
They haven’t done a very good job of enforcing their child marriage ban as far as I know however
of course they haven't they aren't exactly a functioning bureacracy
at least they pay lip service to trying. unlike the monsters in y'all qaeda.
Well of course. In the US, traditionally older men marry minor girls. Normalizing LGBTQ would mean that young men might become victims too :Bwaaa:
It's ALWAYS projection. A movement that owes as much to 4chan as American fascism is absolutely guaranteed to be full of pedophiles. This is actually why they believe in such obvious bullshit as the groomer narrative in the first place, they know they are like that and they cannot imagine anybody else to be better than them, as that would mean admitting they're the sickest fucks in the entire world. so when they have a harddrive full of CP, it's unimaginable to them that other people simply aren't like that. No, that must be virtue signaling, just as they can't imagine that other people actually aren't racist, actually don't have r*pe fantasies, actually don't want to gas the homeless etc. etc.
this is exacerbated by the fact that whenever they see LGBT people, they are reminded there's people who are so much less neurotic and repressed about sex than them. they cannot fathom that somebody without their idiotic hangups is also less of a perverted sex pest than them. it would be too threatening to how they see themselves.
Whenever you challenge them they're like "how dare you have standards :billionaire-tears: "
"Look, they're not children, they're actually historical figures from WW2 that are drawn in a way that focusses on moe instead of accuracy, but i wouldn't expect a bakka gaijin to understand the nuances of my waifu, rommel-chan." :stupidpol:
the most generous reading is that they mean like a 20 year old married to a 21 year old since it's a bar. but "adult spouse" is such an incredibly unsettling phrase you think they would word it better if that was the case.
I kinda want to check out my local Applebees to see if they have this sign since I think I'm in one the few states without legalized child "marriage", or if it's limited to the like 44 states where adults can marry 12 year olds. but I also don't want to go to Applebees
what do you expect them to be allowed in there with their child spouse? i think not
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it's wild that 18 is old enough to do lots of stuff that will mess you up but drinking has to wait until 21
look, if you're not a pedophile, your sexuality is sick and wrong and perverted. how do you not understand american culture?
