Paul Cockshott thinks this one is a real banger

Crazy that there’s a non zero amount of these idiots, cpgb ml not even once 🤮

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Why are people so fucking weird about sex and gender? A city of 150,000 people has no water what so ever but people are seriously confronted about whether or not someone is a girl.

    • save_vs_death [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      My 2 cents is there's "nothing to do" about the city lacking water, the solution is straightforward and saying it out loud won't fix it; this is an issue because idealism (used here as the belief that the ideas we espouse and believe in define us as people and have power to change the world) has eaten up the world. So you can comment only when you think that by shooting out a hot take you're gonna get trans people to dissapear or whatever. There's a purported problem and the only way it can be solved is if a wise guy comes around and tells us what we should think and then the problem just dissapears. This is patently untrue with most any societal problem because they're material; you can't outthink your way out of undrinkable water, you have to fix the fucking pipes.

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        little does he know, takes like this only make us sTronger :trans-hammer-sickle:

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Something something politics something something sexual pathology.

  • dom [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    [being LGBTQ is] actualized through the purchase of commodities

    Two gay caveman trying to hold hands but can't because the rainbow flag salesman won't exist for 4,000 years.

  • Zuzak [fae/faer, she/her]
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    2 years ago

    LGBTQ (especially the T) is extremely effective as a mechanism for disciplining the working/middle classes

    "Well shit, we were all set to unionize, but then a trans person existed, so now we'll all just have to fall in line and do whatever our bosses want."

    • save_vs_death [they/them]
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      2 years ago

      "you should maybe not use slurs"

      "egads, the roving dogs of capitalism have yet again split the working class into warring factions, how will we ever form a union now?"

      "trans people are working class too, shouldn't they be part of the union"

      melts into a puddle of good out of pure rage

      • Budwig_v_1337hoven [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        "the working class is burly cis hets in blue overalls with reactionary politics and that's all they ever will be, which makes it the only revolutionary class"

        It's upsetting to me how ass-backwards-bound-into-a-pretzel their shit excuse for a revolutionary strategy is, like fucking hell...

    • Tapirs10 [undecided,she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Literally the only thing that can be even remotely construed as this is Starbucks not giving trans healthcare benefits to unionized stores. But that is just :porky-happy: doing capitalist things

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Well if that's so he won't object to my plan for every cadre and worker's committee to have a trans commissar to maintain revolutionary discipline

  • Ram_The_Manparts [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is so fucking stupid.

    "Oh, liberals say they want women in the workplace? Then we as communists should be opposed to that! Women should stay in the kitchen!"

    "This liberal wants to raise the minimum wage? Then we'll lower it! You should be happy if you get 1$/hour!"

    "Liberals claim to want to help the poor? Well fuck the poor then! Let them starve, this is what Marx would have wanted!"

    Reddit-tier contrarians pretending to be radicals.

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Reminding me of the student debt forgiveness """discourse""".

      • Activists make student loan debt cancellation and college affordability an issue.

      • Libs: "No you can't do that it would be too revolutionary. Things must be done incrementally."

      • Years later, finally, some very incremental change on the table.

      • Libs, same: "This plan doesn't go far enough! It's not doing anything to address the actual issue."

      It's almost like they're dishonest :harold-manic:

  • Azarova [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    LGBTQ, (especially the T) is extremely effective as a mechanism for disciplining the working/middle classes. LGBTQ members themselves are the ideological and actual shock troops of capital.

    Ah yes, those capitalist LGBTQ shock troopers that definitely exist and are definitely real. It was definitely those real and dastardly LGBTQ shock troops that looted and destroyed the Institut für Sexualwissenschaft, not the actual shock troops of capital... y'know, the fucking fascists.

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Actual shock troop says the victims of actual shock troops are the real shock troops.

  • Tommasi [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    :brainworms:

    A very reasonable and materialist analysis. Also lmao at worrying about the "destruction of a small business" :data-laughing: of course it's some petit bourgeios clown

    • invo_rt [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      I thought this ding-dong's whole id was computer-driven central planning yet he's whinging about small business? He's become addicted to the treats.

  • BabaIsPissed [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    yeah man, people being comfortable in their own skin and expressing their love is the same as watching marvel slop.

    It's those marketing freaks. Since ancient times they keep surrounding unsuspecting guys with cute boys so that they'll buy ... ??? A rainbow flag? Grindr subscription? Lube???

    • Fartbutt420 [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      if u change ur gender then u have to buy a whole new wardrobe, fashion industry's gay agenda strikes again

      • Ideology [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Because thrifting doesn't exist, the fashion industry even gets to double-dip when after ~2years your body shape changes so much that pants don't fit anymore. So you have to buy all-new stuff AGAIN.

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    damn are mcu fans all growing boobs? kinda nuts

    also wtf im a shock troop of capital? damn i didnt even get free jackboots in the mail

      • Kuori [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        they're very shiny and i think they used to be owned by a dude named jack?

    • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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      2 years ago

      damn are mcu fans all growing boobs?

      Ugh, but I don't wanna watch Ant-Man again. Thor: Ragnarok is a pretty decent standalone, though, if you can handle the quips-per-second rate.

      *looks down* :awooga:

  • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago
    1. We all hate companies during (and after) pride month

    2. I don't like expressing anything through the purchase of commodities either

    3. Medicine industrial complex is a dumb ass idea. I don't think an appreciable amount of policy and resource extraction goes towards LGBT-specific medicine. i.e. you don't get your student loans forgiven for coming out as trans and getting counseling

    3 again) Trans people existed before modern society too. For a pertinent example, what books do you think the Nazis were burning? Fucking comic books?

    1. "they were able to convince" is not explicit antisemitism. You're not inside the house of antisemitism, but it's like ringing the doorbell. You just know.

    2. The problem with "breast implants for men" is the state subsidization (the only time cost is a grievance in the discourse, really reaching for straws) and for women it's about being manipulated. Iconography, caricature, and ideology. Patriarchy and pledging allegiance to the binary.

    5 again) It's not the gender affirmation (it's in the name) that "makes a man a woman." With a statement like that, I would be shocked if you could call yourself a person of logic and reason because a sentiment like this is emblematic of a rigid ideologue

    1. LGBT people fight between one another all the fucking time

    2. It sucks that your corpo boss is a cuck

    3. The word "often" carries so much weight in describing why your threat of violence against somebody for their inheritance got you fired from your office job

    4. Small business owners are not messianic

    5. I reckon that corpo that will fire you for ranting about the LGBT is a bigger discipline mechanism in your life than a gay pride parade.

    6. I reckon the threat of homelessness and cost prevention of getting healthcare in absence of a full time job and the insurance it provides is a bigger discipline mechanism in your life than a trans person posting about genitalia on twitter.

    7. Leslie Feinstein wasn't a big fan of capital. I don't think you'll find many trans people promoting a free market system of medicine. As previously noted, you said you were not a fan of the medicine industrial complex. Do you really believe there'd be a significant lack of leftist beliefs held by the LGBT as compared to the general populous?

    8. The same people who complain about the effect protests can have on local small business think antifa (of which I am the CFO) also believe that antifa are actually the ones that hold capital in reverence above all else

    9. The middle class doesn't exist and it's childish iconography and an ignorance of theory to put middle class (which implies a lower, middle, upper, and perhaps a giga-upper) next to working class which implies a binary.

    10. Not once was the qualm about "deadly" expressed before the conclusion. Who dies? Is this an epic % joke? If it's bad that it's deadly, why not simply not contribute to the problem?

    This is hatred and drivel.

    • The_Dawn [fae/faer, des/pair]
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      2 years ago

      The problem with “breast implants for men” is the state subsidization (the only time cost is a grievance in the discourse, really reaching for straws) and for women it’s about being manipulated. Iconography, caricature, and ideology. Patriarchy and pledging allegiance to the binary.

      All of Western ideology is just catholic/colonial Gender Ideology dressed up in whatever ideology you claim to have. AMAB people are scary dick wielding predators who's job is hoard and protect AFAB people like resources (but make it leftist/liberal/fascist/monarchist/anarchist/etc.)

  • D61 [any]
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    2 years ago

    Yup, homosexuality and transgender people didn't exist until like, the 1980's. Its a fact. :expert-shapiro:

  • amyra [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    it's not that deep bro, I just like fucking dudes

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I can see a psychic manifestation of :up-yours-woke-moralists: leaning over his shoulder, urging him on, as he typed all that.

  • BatCountryMusicFan [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    This is one of those weird left-conservative moments of correctly recognizing the mechanisms behind a social phenomena but then just jumping off straight into an ideology vortex.

    Like yeah, all modern LGBTQ identities are essentially consumer identities shaped by capitalism. But then so is every modern identity. Racial, ethnic, religious - it's consumer identities all the way down baybee. That's just the world we live in at the moment. In that context no given identity is invalid.

    • The_Dawn [fae/faer, des/pair]
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      2 years ago

      Like yeah, all modern LGBTQ identities are essentially consumer identities shaped by capitalism. But then so is every modern identity. Racial, ethnic, religious - it’s consumer identities all the way down baybee. That’s just the world we live in at the moment. In that context no given identity is invalid.

      They are probably class reductionists and agree with that full hearted

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Watching a TV ad for a grocery store and going "Grocery Shopping is just a consumer identity! We should be hunting and gathering! Wake up people!"