• huf [he/him]
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    9 months ago
    1. fake solidarity because this doesnt help ukraine, it's just liberalism
    2. double-fake solidarity because it only "felt like" an act of solidarity
    3. terminal liberal brainworms, to think your individual boycott matters
    • iridaniotter [she/her, she/her]
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      9 months ago

      This just looks like someone coping with rising energy bills by pretending their financial pain is an act of solidarity.

    • wyyomin@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      good meme post, just wanna share a viewpoint tht I think some people may not be aware: As a consequence of the war, oil and gas from Russia stopped, and that accounted for not only a big part of the electricity generation, but especially that part that is used to cover peak electrical consumption, ie mornings and dinnertime. in the EU at least, electricity prices change by the hour. and the grid is interconnected between countries, and many countries have had their own energy-struggles, like in Germany where proponents of nuclear energy had gotten the power to phase it all out, made them reliant on importing power.

      so the spikes in energy bills were real tough. Your electricity bill being multiples of 10 more expensive ...makes memes, at least

  • PointAndClique [they/them]
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    9 months ago

    making it according to the traditional Italian method in an uncovered pot of vigorously boiling water

    What other methods are there? Microwave?

    • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      An Italian scientist got a lot of flak back in 2022 for pointing out that you can boil the pasta for 2-3 minutes, turn off the burner, and let the residual heat cook the rest of the pasta and get the same result, saving some (very expensive back then) gas. So apparently that's a more energy-efficient way to cook pasta, if marginally so.

      Italians, not liking when their very dear "muh traditions" are exposed to be based on rote repetition of recipes from very different material conditions and marketing from the 1920s, got very mad at him before even trying if the method worked or not.

      • LeninsBeard [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        Every time I go into the comments of a youtube video about making a traditional Italian dish easier it's full of the most pretentious people in the world talking about how "That's not real Risotto, my Italian mother blah blah blah" like shut the fuck up, your name is Carl and you live in Altoona, Iowa.

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          I once posted a pic of some spaghetti meatballs to a dorm group chat. The Italian dude immediately jumps in and says "that's not real pasta". So I say to him "noodles are from China, so you guys are actually just fucking up 捞面 really bad."

          Dude got legitimately mad and didn't talk to me for a week. Worth it.

          • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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            9 months ago

            A dude that gave me that attitude on pasta/noodles also tried to (erronously) correct me on spider taxonomy and the ranges of mosquitos. I sticks with me years later.

          • KimJongFun [he/him]
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            9 months ago

            I knew one of these guys in college, one time I ate his cooking and it was the worst fucking spaghetti I've ever had in my life lmao

          • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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            9 months ago

            The Sards have their own version of hand pulled noodles, too. Called su filindeu. The mainland Italian mind could never

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          9 months ago

          I deal with ths as a job. It's insufferable. None one I work with is even Italian.

        • peeonyou [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          fuckin Altoona.. what you gonna do go to the horse races or adventureland?

      • AernaLingus [any]
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        9 months ago

        Huh, interesting! They also mention pre-soaking the pasta for two hours to save more energy (since most of the time is really spent rehydrating rather than truly cooking) which can cut the cooking time from ten minutes to one or two minutes. Might have to give it a shot out of curiosity!

        • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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          9 months ago

          I didn't try the soaking method, but I did try the turning it off halfway method. The texture of the pasta is slightly different, but barely noticeable, unless you're using really high-quality pasta from higher-protein durum wheat (the one used the most in Italy). In that case it does turn a bit gummy.

          If you're using regular-ass pasta made from red or winter wheat, which is the pasta you get in 99% of the world (unless you're importing or getting it from a high-quality brand), there's virtually no difference, in my very limited experimentation.

          • RNAi [he/him]
            hexagon
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            9 months ago

            Mormon teens are experts in the soaking technique

          • RNAi [he/him]
            hexagon
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            9 months ago

            Remember to wash off the rehydration water cuz that's where the anti-nutritive chemicals go

          • carpoftruth [any, any]
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            9 months ago

            If you crack spaghetti in half to make it fit into the pot using this method then you do go to Italian hell 👌👉✌️👍

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            6 months ago

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          • AernaLingus [any]
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            9 months ago

            I just tried the turning off method and it worked great on my electric smoothtop! Brought the water to a boil, put in my pasta, left in on for three minutes, and then covered for the remaining seven minutes. It did boil over a bit after covering, but that's on me for setting too high a temperature after adding the pasta. Still came out perfectly al dente! Now, this was with Mueller's, which is an American brand that I find significantly better than the standard US-produced Barilla even though it's a bit cheaper (highly recommend giving it a shot!), but I wouldn't call it fancy--will be interesting to try it with De Cecco and see if I encounter the gumminess you mentioned.

      • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
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        9 months ago

        An Italian scientist in a lab coat, wearing a chef hat, with beakers full of sauces, intently studying pasta. When the results stump him, they do the hand gesture.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        9 months ago

        As someone who works in an Italian restaurant making food in a stupid way cause trad is most of the cuisine.

        • tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          9 months ago

          I find it sorta fun even if unnecessary, I have an Italian friend who was describing how his family made their gnocchi and he really seemed proud haha.

          • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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            9 months ago

            I think it's really nice to be proud and happy about your food heritage, but being so protective and honestly actively hostile to anything that's not "your thing", it's just background fash brainworms.

      • peppersky [he/him, any]
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        9 months ago

        i always put the pasta in first, cover it with as little cold water as possible and then put a lid on it until it boils. its supposed to be faster but i mainly do it because i know it would piss off italians

        • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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          9 months ago

          I've tried that and the outside of the pasta is a bit overcooked and slimy when i've done it. These days i just boil water on the kettle, pour it in a pot and add the pasta. Faster and no fuss.

          • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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            9 months ago

            The electronic kettle to boil then moving it to the saucepan is the way to go. So much faster and if you have leftover hot water in the kettle you can use it while cleaning up.

            • PointAndClique [they/them]
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              9 months ago

              Yup same, kettle water to pot, bring it to a rolling boil then pasta in. Bringing it up from cold in the pot uses so much gas. I guess next step would be cooking the pasta in the kettle and then pouring it out to serve thonk

              • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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                9 months ago

                cooking the pasta in the kettle and then pouring it out to serve

                My poor coffee setup would die on the spot if I ever did that. Kettle is for filtered water only

        • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          I come from an Italian American family, moms side at least, and this is how I do it and it was specifically to spite my grandmother

      • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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        9 months ago

        Italians are some of the most smug about their cooking "traditions." I really don't get it, why are they such weirdos about it? It's really annoying.

        • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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          9 months ago

          It's really one of the very few things they get any international recognition and whatever approximates national pride over there. I get caring a lot about food, I do it for a living, but they're really weird about it.

          It's a whole nation with a huge inferiority complex.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      9 months ago

      I boil my water in a covered pot first,otherwise it takes more time to get to boiling

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        6 months ago

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    • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      You've never cooked pasta to Al dente in a bamboo steamer??

  • knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    Reminds me of the time Germans turned off their lights one evening to show Putin how upset they were.

    Performative malarkey.

    • VILenin [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      To be fair, turning off the lights while losing to Russia is a German tradition

  • iridaniotter [she/her, she/her]
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    9 months ago

    If your energy bills are so high that you're looking for more efficient ways to cook food (which in a normal energy market would only save you a few cents per serving), it's time to revolt!

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    It turns out we were wrong all the time we were thinking that there was no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism.

  • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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    9 months ago

    Reducing energy expenditure in order to curb global warming? Naw.

    Choosing not to run the stove to boil 2L of water for 10 minutes, in order to weaken Russia? Now we're talking.

    • Moonworm [any]
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      9 months ago

      Better control and access to the Black Sea, plus better agricultural land and I think oil fields. Plus the whole NATO thing and the proximity to Moscow.