• radio_free_asgarthr [he/him, comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    I love how liberals did such a 180 on immigration once Biden was the figurehead overseeing it, instead of Trump "What? It's not 2018, we are not pretending to care about asylum seekers anymore." or "What, no the border wall was fascist when Trump was building it, now that Biden is building it, it is good and liberal. We need to keep our borders safe. We are not loony leftists that just want open borders and anarchy."

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      8 months ago

      It's more of a 180 on rhetoric than action. Obummer was vicious to migrants, trying to win over the gop by displays of brutality. Or it was just Obama being Obama, i don't really have a good grasp of how self aware the man is or what his actual political goals ever were.

      • AutomatedPossum [she/her]
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        8 months ago

        It's the same as with drone murders, we've seen a constant march towards more and more all-out barbarism over the last two decades and it's carried by an unquestionable bipartisan consensus. Exterminatory anti-immigration policy is now shaping up to develop in the same way, both in the US and the EU. Liberal policymakers know what kind of migration climate change will inevitably lead to in the next decades, and because they also know they won't do anything about the climate, that means they have completely fallen in line with the fascists on causing mass death at the borders.

        • huf [he/him]
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          8 months ago

          2022, a new European order
          Robot guards patrolling the border
          Cybernetic dogs are getting closer and closer
          Armored cars and immigration officers

          that asian dub foundation song is getting more and more accurate...

          • AernaLingus [any]
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            8 months ago

            Whoa, I honestly had no idea what the lyrics to Fortress Europe were beyond, "Keeping banging on the walls...of FOR-TRESS EUROPE!" because that's probably all I could make out while playing Need for Speed: Underground as a kid.

            We got a right, know the situation
            We're the children of globalization
            No borders, only true connection
            Light the fuse of the insurrection
            This generation has no nation
            Grass roots pressure the only solution
            We're sitting tight
            'Cause asylum is a right

            [...]

            They got a right, listen not to the scaremonger
            Who doesn't run when they're feel the hunger
            From where to what to when to here to there
            People caught up in red tape nightmare

            Break out of the detention centers
            Cut the wires and tear up the vouchers
            People get ready it's time to wake up
            Tear down the walls of Fortress Europe

            • huf [he/him]
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              8 months ago

              yeah, song's from 2003 but it could be from pretty much any time...

      • huf [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        to leave a legacy of civility and eruditeness.

    • Kaplya
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      8 months ago

      I have said many times: the war in Ukraine has completely changed the immigration policy of the US.

      By destroying Europe, Biden has achieved the white supremacist dream of a Fourth Reich that the Republicans could never do in decades.

      The US is a country of immigrants and it will always be so. They are now setting the country up to receive an influx of (mostly) white Europeans over the next couple decades as people flee from rise of far right regimes and economic devastation, much like the early 20th century.

      You know the right wing conspiracy about the “Great Replacement”? That might as well be real with what’s going on in the world right now, except it’s Europeans fleeing from a destabilizing region.

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      8 months ago

      there's a reason the west treats "israel" as a laboratory for these sorts of things

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      8 months ago

      After the election and beyond into next year - why not?

      If Biden wins - bang, bang. And there are lib op-eds discussing this "unfortunate situation".

      If Trump wins - it's Biden doing the bang, bang in December and there are lib op-eds discussing this "unfortunate situation".

      If Trump wins and he's been inaugurated - bang, bang. His base cheers. And libs are mad because it's unseemly to cheer murder.

  • Snackuleata [any]
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    8 months ago

    Good thing we voted the fascists out of office, guys.

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    8 months ago

    I can tell you right now: No, you don’t have that power, it would be a violation of international law.

    Glad we could sort that out you insane fucking freak

    • PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      What? International Law 100% acknowledges the right of countries to control their own borders. No nation is required to allow anyone into the country they don't want in there. There are a lot of dumb-bad reasons to shut down the border but "violating international law" isn't one of them.

        • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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          8 months ago

          Israel has been in violation of international law since its inception but liberals still go BUT KKKHAMMAAAAAAAAAAS so there is no law they aren't willing to break to increase suffering for everyone in the world outside the owning class.

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            8 months ago

            Oh absolutely, but if you’re “exploring if you have the power” I assume that means looking at if it’s legal, which it is not. No more exploring needed.

  • Magician [he/him, they/them]
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    8 months ago

    I remember when we could say

    "Healthcare please yes-honey-left "

    to headlines like this.

    Now we just want him to stop doing genocide shit.

    If not genocide, what exactly are libs endorsing when they say they'll still vote for Biden at this point?

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien’s status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title.

    literally US law, Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter 2, Part 1, Section 1158

    Good to know that liberals are willing, as always, to violate the intent of the few good laws this shithole has in order to fuck over people, but we can't do anything when somebody farts in a legislative chamber too aggressively

    Ed: I suppose I should have edited all instances of 'alien' to instead state 'migrant', in keeping with one of Biden's earliest EO's.

    liberalism

    • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      I would always walk liberals through the steps expressed on the USCIS website that deliberately instruct you that you can only claim asylum once you are WITHIN the U.S. and you have up to a year to claim it. What's happening is the people who entered the U.S. from a port of entry were being thrown in concentration camps and being rejected and deported based on interviews performed by border agents which seemingly violates this U.S. law and international law simultaneously. Obama, Trump, and Biden have cooperated over their terms to ensure that this process is as hard as possible and are encouraging illegal immigration.

      Of course, that's trying to convince liberals of something using their own framework. If it were up to me the FBI and National Guard would be mowing these border pigs down and housing migrants and executing petty bourgeoise that hire immigrants under minimum wage biden-leftist

  • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    Does anybody else wonder if the writer got whiplash while writing this

    Taking executive action on the border has been described internally as the nuclear option. But it's clearly still on the table.

    While the number of migrant crossings has declined during the first part of the year, Biden officials know they have a political problem over the border and immigration.

    "This border shit is hurting our political chances! We need to shut it down!"

    versus

    For Democrats, there have been some warning signs that Biden is losing support with Latino voters.

    In his first year in office, Biden held a 54-24 advantage over former President Trump, according to the latest Axios-Ipsos Latino Poll in partnership with Noticias Telemundo.

    That 29-point margin has dropped to 9 points, with Biden leading Trump 41-32.

    Other evidence suggests that Democrats aren't losing that much Latino support. Hispanic voters favor Democrats over Republicans 61-35, according to the latest Pew Research Center survey.

    "This border shit is hurting our political chances! But not that bad and the other guys are obviously worse, so whatevs."

    and then we have Darkest Brandon ...

    "We're examining whether or not I have that power," Biden told Univision's Enrique Acevedo in an interview taped last week that aired Tuesday night.

    "Some are suggesting that I should just go ahead and try it," Biden said. "And if I get shut down by the court, I get shut down by the court."

    Biden was clear that he has not made a final decision, adding that there was "no guarantee" that he has the power to take action on the border without legislation from Congress.

    ... followed by ...

    Biden used the interview to criticize Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's handling of the war in Gaza.

    "I think what he's doing is a mistake," Biden said in the interview.

    "I don't agree with his approach."

    ... Politest (poLightest?) Brandon

    I just don't understand how you can type all that up and not question both your sanity and soul.

  • 420stalin69
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    8 months ago

    Thank god it’s not a republican doing this that would be so much worse

  • Weedian [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    But the democrats, by moving further right and offering Republicans exactly what they want, have exposed Republicans HYPOCRISY

    Never mind that the Republicans can and will always go further right and the dems have just made the republican position from a few months ago the new Democrat position

  • Beaver [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Dems still doing triangulation, despite that strategy only being kinda effective in 1996, and never since then billdawg

  • BlueMagaChud [any]
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    8 months ago

    Biden doing the triangulationangular-merkel to position himself to get the votes of exactly 0 republicans, but maybe this is just red meat for his base to scold the left about more things

    • Kaplya
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      8 months ago

      He’s gunning for the Republican donors.

      In American electoralism, it’s all about how much campaign contributions you receive.

      Even if you lose the election, so what? It’s better to lose the election but with a few dozens of rich donors giving you a steady stream of income because they like what you have to offer.

  • krolden@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Please just shut down the Canadian border. They won't let many of us into Canada so fuck the Canadians.