• kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Tucker had recently called out Chapo for allegedly not pushing back on blind support and escalation for Ukraine — to which the guys accused Fox’s producers of not listening to the show, dryly reminding the audience, “We said the war between Russia and Ukraine is a war between the two worst countries.”

    this is america and israel erasure

  • kristina [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    It doesn’t totally come as a surprise that bourgeois millennials living virtually in serfdom want socialized healthcare and education

    Bourgeois, or living in serfdom. Pick one.

    How the hell do you get a degree in journalism and have your entire job be about writing words while not understanding basic definitions of words

    • RNAi [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Don't be a nerd, you know what the writer means. "Bougie" has been long ago stripped of its marxist meaning and replaced with "comfy rich/well off person from a city"; it follows that these right wing dipshits want to start using again the word "bougie" as synonim of "woke" to keep stealing leftist vocabulary, since it has always worked very well for them.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        You can say don't be a nerd, but pointing out that the terms are contradictory is part of dissecting the propoganda.

        The real funny thing is that Chapo is far closer to the 'rugged entrepreneurs' that these guys love to suck off than a serf that literally writes for Breitbart. They have far more editorial freedom.

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          Yes, absolutely, the nerd part for me was:

          How the hell do you get a degree in journalism and have your entire job be about writing words while not understanding basic definitions of words

          Journalism(TM) is 99,9% about writing shit to appease the ears of whoever pays you, packing it with as much propaganda and dogwhistles as you can.

      • kristina [she/her]
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        2 years ago

        Oxford dictionary delenda est

        Merriam-Webster: wired definition 1b and 2

        • RNAi [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It also happened in spanish. "Aburguesado" is used to describe a person that got too comfy living in a city/being upper middle class.

          Example:

          "Me aburguesé y ya no puedo venir al trabajo en colectivo" = "I became too bougie so I can't take the bus to work anymore"

          Althought, the official definition of "aburguesado" is "Que ha adquirido o tiene costumbres, maneras o mentalidad de burgués"

          "A person that has acquired ways, manners or mentality of a bourgeois"

            • RNAi [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Yes, I have spent years trying to craft it, the obvious material is there, and yet haven't nailed something actually funny yet.

  • fishnwhistle420 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Now that Bernie has been neutralized and we have nowhere to go, the project of the new right is to peel off as many of us as possible to their side.

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      It probably would have worked better if they hadn't literally started with the actual artsy champagne socialists.

    • cricbuzz [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Totally! And many are going to fall for it.

      The trio has evidently come to understand that populism, on the left and the right, is a bigger movement than any one politician — it has a broader message, a sentiment, a philosophy, sometimes even an aesthetic — it’s a rebel culture.

      This sort of fake unity is going to be used to that effect

      • RNAi [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Are chapo listeners that silly?

        Like, understanding some ten minutes Matt rant (or at least decoding the point of the rant) should be incompatible with being that silly. Or maybe Matt's rants just sound nice and people think they understand them while it never had any real meaning, and the goal of the rant was to be ambiguous.

        • cricbuzz [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I think :LIB:s are that silly. There are defintely people who can listen to Chapo for entertainment, and who will be duped by the shiny prospect of being part of the petit-bourgeois.

          Not me of course! :think-about-it:

          Also, the chapo boys are helpful for radicalizing many people and showing them an alternative. However, they still have their problems. For instance they really weren't very helpful during the george floyd protests about directing people toward black/brown/indigenous leaders. They did and still do make fun of cops a lot, which is of course good :the-pigs:

    • Blottergrass [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      All you have to do is ask them what concessions have they made for the left. Thinnest facade I've ever seen in my career of hanging out online in political spaces.

  • Kestrel [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    The comments are hilarious

    :think-mark:

    These Chapo douche bags are shills that probably voted for Hillary

    :frothingfash:

    Hey Breitbart... Howz about an in depth article on election fraud that effects us here in middle America instead of this meaningless dribble...?

    :honk-enraged:

    They're just spoiled losers. What problems do they face ? How to pay for dry cleaning of their way over priced jeans ? They're twisted phonies, ashamed of their "privilege" while trying to deny the ease of their lives by playing anti-capitalist. Sorry, not one looks like they'd be a pick of Darwin. I'm betting even an Army of scandanavian woke women would rout them

    • kristina [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Reminder that you need to be smeared in poop and living in a gutter to be a socialist, and if you are smeared in poop and living in a gutter you're also a lazy good for nothing

      • ssjmarx [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        being defeated by a strong woke Scandinavian woman

        :hyperflush:

        • YEP [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I've had the same 3 pairs of Levi's for like 6 years now. Do they really fall apart that fast for you?

          • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            I find they rip at the crotch when I'm working. Terrible seam work. Wranglers are better cause they don't rip (Bless the fucker who designed the diamond seam for us lads who lift things properly), but all my jeans are stained to shit if I work in them at all, and they all stretch out more than a yoga instructor. I suspect there is less denim and more elastic in them these days, because I didn't use to have this problem.

    • MC_Kublai [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      Sorry, not one looks like they’d be a pick of Darwin

      Love when conservatives pretend like they wouldn't get their heads caved in seconds into a fight

    • Commander_Data [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Well, they're fascists, so of course the attack is going to be based on aesthetetics. If they listened to any of the substance of what Matt has to say regarding finance capitalism they would quickly find themselves in agreement with him.

    • Trouble [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      their way over priced jeans

      It is a well known fact that :baby-matt: buys his clothing for $4 at the grocery store

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      How to pay for dry cleaning of their way over priced jeans ?

      What planet do these people live on?

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      These Chapo douche bags are shills that probably voted for Hillary

      I think it was in one of Matt's livestreams that he said he was going to vote for Hillary in 2020. It was finally Her Turn.

  • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Lmao barely a few sentences in and they already complain that the audience is dressed too nice. Muh $1000 iphone champagne socialists :very-intelligent:

    • cawsby [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Socialists that aren't living like Ewoks aren't real.

      • Soap_Owl [any]
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        2 years ago

        Hear me out though, I want to live naked in a giant treehouse with my homies throwing spears at cops

  • frankfurt_schoolgirl [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    Sorry, not one looks like they'd be a pick of Darwin. I'm betting even an Army of scandanavian woke women would rout them

    All but one looks over 50

    These douches probably voted for Hillary

    The comments on this article are amazing.

  • The_Walkening [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    These people don’t own anything and pay, in some cases depending on where they live, around 50% of their income to taxes — they don’t understand why they shouldn’t get healthcare and tuition paid, and why they pay for weapons for foreign nations instead

    Motherfucker if I'm taxed at 50% it should benefit me.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      No no no. It's cool bro. Just buy it on the free market bro. Check out this coupon for 15% your next ER visit, bro.

  • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    It doesn't seem like the article writer chose the title, but even if it was accurate that wouldn't be surprising.

    You'd be surprised how many right wing or "free-thinking" people have been successfully isolated from any conception of a left perspective. A strong narrative exists that there are two sides, and two sides only - meaning if you are far-left you must be like Biden but like, even moreso. And if you know the Republicans and Democrats are both evil you're encouraged to just disengage, there is no alternative.

    To the degree it is safe for you to do so, I highly recommend engaging as much as possible with people on the right/"independent", present them an alternative view (IRL, online is nothing, a waste of time). Maybe it's where I live but I've yet to engage with one who is an all-out fascist, most I've put the time in with have esoteric views, hate the bourgeoisie, are not opposed to a strong public infrastructure to attend to the needs of regular people, sympathetic to indigenous devastation, minority oppression etc. They typically have some views that need correcting but are rarely the hateful screaming ethnofascist bigot many on this site are quick to round them up to.

    I wouldn't expect to pill them right away, but in general the left position is a very strong and easy to defend one so you can be patient and consistent, while giving them time to speak and feel heard.

    Organizing is the act of talking to people who don't necessarily agree with you, and bringing them in on your movement. If you're only taking to people who agree with you that's much closer to mobilizing than organizing.

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Their only exposure to the left is from strawmen fed to them by Tucker Carlson et al.

      • HoChiMaxh [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I honestly think Tucker namedropping Chapo led to this article because people were like wtf is that

        • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          It would be funny if Tucker Carlson is just so online, he accidentally destroys the mainstream right because he assumes everyone knows what TrueAnon or Citations Needed is, and people actually get pilled by them.

        • SaniFlush [any, any]
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          2 years ago

          We live in an era where TV Dinner Man has done more for leftist political education than the DNC.

    • ssjmarx [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      You’d be surprised how many right wing or “free-thinking” people have been successfully isolated from any conception of a left perspective.

      Not just righties, libs too. I didn't truly encounter the left perspective until I was in my mid twenties. I was on Bernie Reddit, and I was really surprised to see people saying positive things about the evil commie dictatorship of Cuba, which prompted me to read a biography of Fidel Castro to learn more about him and it.

    • LaughingLion [any, any]
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      2 years ago

      he ended his article with being chapo-pilled like, those were his words so i dont know

        • LaughingLion [any, any]
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          2 years ago

          its actually an interesting article to see what a rightwing asshole thought on the show

          also interesting is the comments on the article oozing with brainworms

          literally some iphone vuvuzela shit being thrown around unironically

  • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    a chat with Chapo featuring a cold open of an anime cartoon of Hunter Biden hitting a crack pipe.

    :michael-laugh:

  • PROMIS_ring [he/him]
    hexagon
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    2 years ago

    50yo writing about 40yos: these cool kids have a punk rebel energy

  • Blottergrass [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Imagine doing the "they have iphones" thing in 2022. Absolute state of libertarians!

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      I'm old enough to remember Bill O'Reily claiming poverty in the US doesn't exist because of refrigerators.

  • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    Attendants, paying $60 for a ticket and $30 for a plastic cup of wine, were not what an observer through media of the millennial progressive left would imagine; the crowd was mostly young professionals, looking like they just stepped out from their office on Sixth Avenue or Wall Street.

    At least 40% of the crowd was, is, or will be a barback inside a 5 year timespan.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      I've been to a Chapo show and it more had the vibe of a vaping conventional than wall street bros. Maybe it's different in New York.

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        2 years ago

        Just a bigger overlap, I'm sure. But when Goldman Sachs CEOs are headlining Coachella, I think the stereotypes are wildly out of date.