One thing that always struck me about the Democrats is how like suicidal they are. When the right starts saying to kill the groomers, they're not just talking about people like me, they also mean all of the politicians they see on their TV's. The Dems may think that being useless centrists who get paid to lose is fine, because it won't affect their career trajectory, but at the end of the day there's literally nothing standing between a deranged chud and Nancy Pelosi's husband. I don't really except them to stand up for trans people, but at least they could stand up for themselves.
Remember that Pelosi also insisted on flying to Taiwan while Beijing threatened consequences
I feel a new era of political assassinations is well and truly upon us.
I agree - it’s just incredible to me that he could just walk up and do that, especially after January 6th. Over confident libs are one thing, but the Secret Service is in complete shambles here. Or cahoots.
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I don't think congress members get SS protection in the first place. AOC hires her own security, Pelosi probably does too.
I’d naively assumed that as Speaker of the House and second-in-line for the presidency, she’d be afforded SS protection. But you’re totally right, she has no protection. It’s incredible to me that Laura Bush is afforded more protection than someone so close to actually becoming president.
Doesn’t shock me given the shambles of the US in general, but still very surprised, from a security perspective. For perspective, even Keith Starmer has police bodyguards!
Surprising congress doesn't have its own guards but probably there is a good reason congresspeople don't want to subordinate their security to the executive branch
They do. The US Capitol Police. It exists for exactly the reason you mention about subordination to the executive branch. The US Marshals exist for a similar reason to serve the judicial branch, but they answer to the Attorney General who is appointed by the President.
In practice, the whole thing is stupid though. Just a parliamentary LARP. Not much better than some Proud Boy neckbeard appointing themselves sergeant at arms of the local chapter. They follow the directives of congress, which changes hand time and time again. As some "extreme leftist" Democrat, I wouldn't trust my security falling into the hands of Kevin McCarthy and Mitch McConnell every couple of years.
In the capitol the Capitol police "protect" them. I mean, they withdrew and left them with minimal security hoping they'd get massacred on Jan 6th, but they allegedly protect them.
At home they're on their own unless they can convince one of the local police departments to lend them a protection detail.
I feel a new era of political assassinations is well and truly upon us.
At least we'll get to have a bunch of crab raves before the security forces come for us.
At least they could stand up for themselves
They do, that’s why the funds for prisons, police and military are ever increasing and non-negotiable. The fact that the Pelosis have over a hundred million dollars and don’t invest in better security is baffling. How do you not have some bodyguards and cameras and censors and shit?
As the third person in the line of succession for the US presidency, I think we can all rest assured that Nancy Pelosi's security detail is substantial. The problem is that these security forces are foaming anticommunists from top to bottom, and they are completely blind to the machinations of the chuds, if not sympathetic or complicit. They are too busy looking for black anti-imperialists to lynch to notice the actual lynch-mob outside the door.
The main problem here which grows more apparent by the day is that liberals think voting grants them power. They are absolutely incapable of understanding that the more guns and tanks they hand to the pigs and troops, the less power they have. Votes can't stop bullets. Votes can't stop tanks. And unless these institutions are purged (which they won't, because that "politicizes" them), they will all be joining us in the camps.
To repurpose a section of poem by an imperialist dipshit of yore:
No hot clapback or sassy :vote:
No slurs for commies you may know
Will turn the bullet from your coat
Or ward the truncheon's downward blow
Post hard who cares, make signs for fun
The odds are on the bigger gun
I think we can all rest assured that Nancy Pelosi’s security detail is substantial.
I mean on the one hand, that guy did climb in to the Queen's bedroom that one time to have a nice chat with her over tea, but on the other hand it's unbelievable that Nancy's husband was allowed to go anywhere without at least a two man detail 24/7
they will all be joining us in the camps.
Oh shit oh fuck we'll still have to deal with smug liberals in the camps?
Well fwiw, once we're in the camps we'll get to be like "I fucking told you so" before we get the wall
Unfortunately not, they will be blaming us for voting for Jill Stein and being Bernie bros still
the funds for prisons, police and military are ever increasing
But they also don't realize, even after half the security services in DC left them to die on January 6th, and half the people in the crowds were cops or military, that the security forces will liquidate them the instant they feel they have permission.
Like talk about digging your own grave. They just funnel millions and billions of dollars in to the gaping maws of armed paramilitaries that despise them and would think nothing about marching them in to the basement and shooting them in the back of the head.
I’ve always said Biden should’ve responded to Jan 6th with summary executions. If they really have a shit about maintaining american democracy it would have been the only way. Hearings and political theater - which is to say more of the same - just normalized right wing
violencetemper tantrumsPart of why I’m like “who the fuck cares” about Jan 6 is if they actually thought it was as big of a deal as they claim they would’ve clamped down harder on it at the time
i think the mob would've killed some politicians if they'd gotten hold of them, zip cuffs guy was ready to take hostages, but american democracy isn't the hot shit liberals think it is and there was never any real threat of the election not getting certified a day or two later at most.
This. Should have declared a state of emergency, suspended habeus corpus, and just started shooting people until he ran out of people to shoot. Just letting a coup attempt happen and then responding to it with a ridiculous drawn out show trial that has already promised not to even prosecute and sentencing a bunch of random goons for minor felonies is absurd.
at the end of the day there’s literally nothing standing between a deranged chud and Nancy Pelosi’s husband.
Kind of hilarious when you think about it. The third in line for the throne and one of the most powerful people in America almost got got by a middle aged man with a hammer because she simply does not have a 24/7 security presence. The arrogance is completely insane.
Local San Francisco alcoholic, chronic DUI offender, got hammered in his own home.
I don't know a single 80 year old who should be driving regardless of if they drink or not.
Way too slow of reaction time.
r/conservative very firmly believes that paul pelosi paid a guy to beat his head in with a hammer
It must be so cool to be a chud, everything is a false flag and all evidence that you're a dumbass is fake news.
this is why r/cth will forever be the most powerful sub. when that berner struck out at the congressional baseball game we weren't whining that it must be some kind of op.
It would fit the observed facts better than what actually apears to have happened
Between this and the Kavanaugh thing, my main takeaway from these events is that the ruling class and their functionaries are so arrogant and complacent that they often just don't even fucking bother with any real security measures.
The most American qualities one can have is complacency and laziness
I get the sentiment but it's still a fucking nazi just casually walking into the home of the third most important politician in the US to murder her husband in front of her eyes. It's the biggest red flag possible when that's a thing that just happened, and by red flag i mean the one with the white circle in the middle. Absolute Weimar hours.
For once it happened to someone who matters. Maybe the political class will take Nazi terror a little bit more serious when they risk being targeted personally?
Probably not. They'll just round up some leftists like they always do and give the cops a bazillion dollars to be more racist.
Maybe the political class will take Nazi terror a little bit more serious when they risk being targeted personally?
They tried to do that after Jan 6. And they did a bit more than just the usual performative handwringing and we see you we hear you bs that they do when it's our lives being threatened by nazis and not theirs. But when you look at the entirity of Amerikas's domestic suppression and punishment apparatus and at what insurrectionist fash have been hit with during the last year, it's an absolute fucking joke what they dished out. I doubt this will change significantly. Democrats are precisely where they are because they are deeply, deeply incapable of changing the course of Amerikan politics.
i guess the committee and some of those dorks getting arrested and sentenced is the caring more, but kind of doing their fucking jobs for once feels like a really cheap "caring more" ya know?
I don't even know what they'd do at this point. Every police department and sheriff's office in the country is firmly in the hands of fascists, the military is highly compromised. Where would they even find anyone willing to put their neck on the lines and carry out a purge on behalf of the fucking Democrats?
Maybe they'll try to arm their horde of loyal and devoted lobbyists and send them out to clean house.
Maybe they’ll try to arm their horde of loyal and devoted lobbyists and send them out to clean house.
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We've been in the cool zone for a long time now. At least let me make some popcorn and watch my political enemies get slaughtered by their own hubris and ineptitude.
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hinkley 🤝guy who shot at republican baseball
disappointing me and jodie
More of a wtf, lol type funny than a lol, lmao type funny. If they wore a silly costume or the hammer was in some way comically styled, maybe
It was an anti-vaxx hippy who got sucked into stop the steal I think 😂
Hippies never really had a revolutionary or radical ideology. Some did, but a lot were very individualistic and viewed themselves as breaking away from a conservative, repressive society in an individualized way with no real class consciousness or revolutionary program.
Plus there weren't nearly as many hippies as the media then or now make it seem, and they were widely reviled by society. The boomers re-wrote history to make the hippies seem cooler than they were so they could claim some of that coolness by association.
Their stupidity is powerful though, it’s a gravitational field that pulls everything towards it. Within the CPUSA right now there is a struggle between the pro-Brandon commies and the pro-MAGA commies. Truly a stupid, stupid place when even the communists get wrapped up in this dumb shit
I looked at his blog and his posts are full blown nazi. I don't think I would describe him as a hippie.
You'd be surprised at how many hippies and crystal aficionados were receptive to QAnon, it's actually kind of a pipeline.
I have a friend that traveled that pipeline. I think she came out of it but maybe she just stopped talking about it so much. Its hard to tell because she was getting it all from her man but her hippy traveling friends would disparage all her sources without attacking her personally. So either she's gotten rid of the reactionary BF or she just stopped talking about it online to avoid the brain twisting.
Every article that I've seen says that he last attended nudist events in 2013. Things he did 10 years ago seems not very relevant to who he is now. His frenworld themed Nazi blog was last updated yesterday and it's still up. The blog is still up, I can still look at it.
Hippie to antivaxx to chud pipeline.
Many such cases folks!
Will this motivate Pelosi or the Democrats to take the fascist threat seriously beyond :vote: ? I'm not optimistic.
I wouldn't think so. That's not the Secret Service's job. They mostly deal with counterfeiting and other niche stuff. They defend the President because there weren't really any other armed agencies during Lincoln's presidency and he needed body guards.
That atmepted murder is just rude. If he wanted to kill an 80 year old with a hammer I would imagine he could have done so
Probably a negotiating tactic. Defence will say assault with a weapon and they will agree to a plea at assault with intent to maim.
Breaking into a ghoul's house and assaulting them isn't cool.
Now, if you were to drag them to a People's Court in a nearby public place to be tried for their crimes - that would be extremely cool.
I gotta say, getting within inches of murdering one of the most important and dangerous people in the world with a fucking hammer is pretty cool. People are going to be reading about this in history books a century from now going "How did one of the leaders of the most evil empires not have bodyguards?"
Breaking into a ghoul’s ghost and assaulting them isn’t cool.
no i want little a adventurism
The 80 year old man tried to hit him with a hammer and so he took it and hit thr guy back. Seems fair tbh.
Since, I have never tried but I think it would be hard to not beat an 80 year old to death with a hammer. He had to show some reasonable restraint.
The 80 year old man tried to hit him with a hammer
I mean that's fair play if someone breaks into your house. I don't want you to think I'm feeling sympathy for Paul freaking Pelosi, I'm just saying that this kind of adventurism doesn't really accomplish much beyond getting your org cracked down on.
Oh yeah, I mean I am just surprised the old drunk went to hammer as step one for self defense . But if our naked king wanted to kill the old man it ahould have been within his power. I think he had zero expectation of doing violence to the old man.
The most likely senario is that they were doing drugs together. I fully assume he broke in just to complain about shoe regulations and the old man escilated things till it ended poorly.
