• henfredemars@infosec.pub
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    2 months ago

    You’re assuming that their belief system has some vague semblance of logic when it’s primarily based on cruelty.

  • ashinadash [she/her, comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    Did feminising hormone therapy become birth control while I wasn't looking? Wasn't last I checked... Also I am pretty sure it's possible to get both medio/phalloplasty done without messing around anything internally if you have a vulva, cervix, etc.

    Chuds probably do believe we're all 100% sterile, but it's probably easier for them to just let isolation & exclusion from a cisheteropatriarchal system kill us slowly. This is why we must have our own communities and kill the cis.

    meow-hug Sorry to be a contratian and a total downer, hope you are doing ok.

    • AutomatedPossum [she/her]
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      2 months ago

      You're presenting this as a hypothetical, but this, plus a strict requirement to live as a heterosexual post transition, was the socially and medically enforced one way to be trans throughout the 2nd half of the 20th century. Transmedicalism isn't something that some weirdos in our community came up with on their own, it was invented by cis people to control us, and it still dominates most medical and legal systems worldwide.

      The forced sterilization part in particular has been a core part of the first gender ID law in Sweden, it was adopted by many other jurisdictions, it was on the books in Germany until 2011, it still is law in Japan today. There's just a dozen nation states worldwide that legally recognize nonbinary people. Most medical systems still require some form of transmed gatekeeping instead of operating under an informed consent model, and a lot of trans people, especially poor and PoC ones, still need to live stealth for safety reasons.

      • Des [she/her, they/them]M
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        2 months ago

        i watched a doc when i was maybe 11 or 12 that followed a trans woman going through a heavily transmedicalized process. she was required to successfully dress feminine for a few years and be 100% passing, forced to be hetero, etc. it showed the whole surgery in graphic detail.

        it did it's job and popped the tiny balloon in my head i had at the time since i knew i like girls and didn't see my "girl self" as hyper femme. don't remember the name of the documentary but it was done in the U.S. and had a very late 80s sheen

  • Thallo [she/her, he/him]
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    2 months ago

    There was some dipshit on Tim Pool saying that allowing people to transition makes them sterile, so actually allowing them to transition is genocide. If we want to protect trans people, we shouldn't allow them to do that.

  • tamagotchicowboy [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    They're interested in simple genocide for peoples, and the further destruction for all and any part of reality that fails to fall into the simplistic dualists storybook parameters of their reality, which is near all of it.

  • shreddingitlater [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    Even when it comes to having babies, they're irrational. The most obvious way to encourage reproduction is to reduce the costs - one of the biggest anxieties everyone has with having a child is just the cost of having the baby delivered, nevermind years of childcare.

    All that to say they don't have the foresight or rationality to see that as a solution.

    spoiler

    At least thats what I'd like to believe. But most of them probably have consistent and rational beliefs in that what they truly seek is cruelty and enforcement of traditional hierarchical norms.

    • keepcarrot [she/her]
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      2 months ago

      They don't want to subsidise parents, they want to punish people who don't have kids

  • GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    2 months ago

    The cruelty is the point. Just having trans people existing and being happy isnt good enough, we must be in constant pain for them to feel good about us.

  • lorty@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    They are more than happy to sterilize the undesirables, but see doing so for white people a waste.

  • glans [it/its]
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    2 months ago

    So are you aware that sterilization has been and is a requirement for change of name documents and other aspects of transition in various places?

    Not sure if this is supposed to be clever or something.

      • glans [it/its]
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        2 months ago

        ah i see. a bit of mainstream anti trans rhetoric and policy.