Pay the workers you filthy capitalists :xi-gun:
Surveillance cameras and windows smashed by men with sticks
Workers complain of delayed pay, insufficient food
Some videos of the protests (possibly): https://twitter.com/lolc936163/status/1595421244236566536
The CPC need slap down this kind of crap, especially when it came from a Taipei company, a province that want to threatening you while get the benefit. ffs, stop giving this comprador benefit, give them more stick
they’ve slapped down foxconn for this shit before, it’s very likely they will again.
Foxconn has an annoying effective monopoly in their sector that China is trying to overcome by funding mainland competitors. That takes time in hardware manufacturing.
Every time the CPC acts against Foxconn it also threatens to turn into a diplomatic proxy pissing contest with the Taiwanese regional government, so they tend to pick their battles.
Nationalise Foxconn.
Every time I see any worker abuse article from China, it’s always fucking Foxconn.
https://www.theverge.com/23030465/foxconn-lcd-factory-wisconsin-alan-yeung-trump-scott-walker-wisconn-valley-dome-decoder-interview
That interview broke my brain
Alan Yeung is a professor of entrepreneurship
Jesus Christ what a fucking useless job.
“There is no factory. Why not address that in the book?”
That will be the next book.
MY MAN.
He’s got the grifter shit down.
doing that would likely be used by the US as justification for war with China
US is already fucking foaming at its mouth to restart the Cold War. They’ll use anything, doesn’t matter what China does.
But what China need is for the global south and EU not joining with the sanction. Just look at recent tech ban, the yank can't convince it allied to join their ban, by having a justification, yank allies will join the sanction
Oh yeah, definitely. China isn’t making the mistake of the USSR (:ussr-cry:) of fighting the great Satan on its own.
Some shit has more weight behind it than others, going after a Tawain-based company that is critical to America’s capitalists is a move that needs to be considered carefully.
We also already started a second cold war with China years ago. It’s ongoing.
Yeah, I feel at this point both the sides are just gearing up, gathering allies and resources etc. Its scary.
Just start WW3, NBD, LOL
Somehow I don't think that's in China's wheelhouse.
Taiwan is not going to declare war on China. It'll saber-rattle, but every leader in Taiwan knows that the product of war with China is millions and millions of Taiwanese deaths in a brutal war followed by a long insurgency that ultimately fails.
purely relying on central planning in China resulted in millions of deaths and mass starvation. It was attempted before they’d built up industry.
There’s no doubt a centralized system is ideal for many Marxists, but getting to that point requires time and effort. The CPC has been doing that work for decades.
This is just disingenuous, central planning is very widely powerful, and can be applied to any society, more population just means more work. Don't discount it just because the current China doesn't have it adopted.
The Soviet Union still used abacuses in their grocery stores all the way up to its dissolution. That's mechanical and mental computation. Their planned economy was quite literally based off of elbow grease and midnight candles.
Modern China would have a hard time doing a sudden shift to a planned economy yet modern technology and its availability has made the planned economic model infinitely easier than it was a century earlier. They're literally in a finger trap of their own making.
True, but never discount central planning power.
Yeah the argument of “too many variables” is just capitalist propaganda.
seeing my companies ordering systems work really opened my eyes to central planning. then i read The People's Republic of Walmart and it convinced me. we need a Cybersyn 2.0
Exactly! We already have “central planning.” It’s just capitalist central planning.
Very true. Companies like palantir already keep track of entire supply chains and are used to prevent shortages. The technology is there
more people to manage but also more people to do the work required to manage them :shrug-outta-hecks:
Do you know of any Marxist critiques of Mao’s era and his policies? I’ve only ever seen the capitalist versions that decry socialism and praise Deng for bringing in capitalism (false, obviously).
It's more complicated than that. While mass starvation did occur, modern Chinese analysis of the records up to and processing from the Great Leap Forward indicate that significant portion of what was reported as death by starvation (likely in excess of ten million, still leaving a staggering twenty million estimated deaths) was unaccounted for population movement that was not recorded on the back end. Basically, you get widespread instances of people dropping out of country records, reported as dead, and then showing up again 20 years later in city census records that they are not supposed to be in, creating a "growth boom" without a correlating increase in birth rates.
Simultaneously, the only reason we even have semi-accurate data on this event is because of the attempts at stringent record keeping by the central planners. Before this point, keeping records of the population sizes of the provincial peasantry was scant to non-existent, with taxation codes being inconsistent between provinces and governments. As such it is nearly impossible to get an accurate read on the scale, frequency and severity of famines in China prior to the CPC. However, it is conservatively estimated that a 'great' famine that would kill anywhere from 5-10 million people would occur every 30-50 years within most of Chinese history. Almost all of these deaths would go unreported. If this is the case, then the famine of the Great Leap Forward represents the last such famine in Chinese history and an unprecedented break from the cycle going forward.
Basically, it was typical historical event, exacerbated by central planning goals, that was recorded because of central planning (with errors being increased by cumulative central planning errors) and then generally solved by that central planning going forward.
They probably want to get all the latest tech transfer first, then back to central planning
Definitely agree that the CPC needs to slap this shit down.
As for nationalization, I think the CPC is being very careful in what cards it plays and which cards it holds onto as a threat of further escalation. Even during the Trump Trade War and the current chip embargo the CPC didn't impose and drastic measures like restricting critical rare earth exports.
In this case it's probably enough for the CPC to order Foxxcon to pay workers double or triple what they're owed and maybe a hefty fine on top of that. Maybe some not-so-subtle threats to the execs behind the scenes.
Reuters is such a rag lol
The rare scenes of open dissent in China mark an escalation of unrest at the massive factory in Zhengzhou city that has come to symbolise a dangerous build-up in frustration with the country's ultra-severe COVID rules as well as inept handling of the situation by the world's largest contract manufacturer.
The rare scenes of open dissent in China
I agree, Reuters, most people in China are not visibly unhappy with their country.
Awhile back when pelosi went to Taiwan they posted an article on the white paper the Taiwanese govt published about the situation and completely took it out of context and twisted their words to be the exact opposite of what it really said when I went and translated it directly.
good. capitalists should be scared. based china. would love to see this kind of labor agitation in the US
I’d love it, partly because we’d get to literally compare how western news differs in its coverage.
In this case, they always talk about how even though these protests are against Foxconn, the actual enemy is the See See Pee and CoVid-Zero.
If similar protests happened in the US, half the media would be calling them looters and shooters and demand the police brutalise them. The other half would interview sad business owners talking about how much they’re suffering.
In this case, they always talk about how even though these protests are against Foxconn, the actual enemy is the See See Pee and CoVid-Zero
notice how the American press uses Foxconn’s shitty labor practices to attack China while still protecting Foxconn
Holy shit, yes. I didn’t even catch that. They didn’t even fucking criticize Foxconn for not providing the adequate resources (like food, which was a major point of the protest) the workers needed due to the Covid restrictions. And that there was no protection for workers from getting covid within the workplace itself.
It’s like the perfect example of what would’ve happened all over China if not for the government. Capitalists forcing the entire population to go back to work not caring about the risk.
I also love the press and politicians shitting on China regarding pollution when western capital specifically outsourced the dirtiest industries to China for cost savings. Despite that, China still has a lower per-capita pollution lower than the US.
China literally does this fairly frequent. They executed the CEO of a baby formula company that was cutting their milk with chalk
Not chalk, melamine powder, which caused the deaths of multiple infants. Meanwhile America just had a baby formula scandal and the CEO got a slap on the wrist.
They haven't done it to Foxconn though and it's overdue. Working conditions at Foxconn have sucked for 15+ years
I replied elsewhere, but Foxconn being based in the province of Taiwan and a key business partner for Imperial core capitalists makes it politically dangerous to regulate.
China has taken action against them frequently, but Foxconn is aware they have leverage. Most Americans cannot name another Chinese manufacturing company, which should tell you something about how valuable they are to American interests.
Shoutout to that time French workers stripped their bosses and hucked them over a chainlink fence. Direct action gets the goods.
:japan-cool: :amerikkka: and :Taipei-cool: in name
I can already tell for this lib it will either be something like “they call themselves socialist and yet…” or “why is China not safeguarding wholesome Taiwanese company from unwashed peons?!”.
