They probably found out about the Marika Radagon thing and decided that's "woke"
Aside, it’s funny that ”traditionalists” have been malding over that when deities have been transing genders in mythology for thousands of years
Even in video games. VIvec in Morrowind was a man, a woman, both, and neither at various points in his very complicated and strange existence. That was over 20 years ago and is one of the most acclaimed RPGs of its era.
Just what I was thinking - same with Starfield. You knock about in space in a rattling rustbucket and look at stuff and talk to aliens. Pinheads must have issues with games that have character creation options - because, obviously, anything that doesn't have a main character that looks like Conan is pandering filth.
That's a gross mischaracterisation! They will also accept a character that looks like one of the babes clinging to Conan's feet on comic and book covers
Because you can play as a blue piece of jerky covered by a loincloth and using only a club as a weapon.
in the character creation screen when selecting the characters gender instead of saying Male or Female it says A or B
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A and B instead of male and female during character creation, big lore character (who is also the final boss) changed gender, probably some other SJW bogeymen (idk like Ranni being technically pan because you become her consort regardless of gender presentation or something).
DKS1 had a character born male but raised female, DKS2 had a coffin that changed your gender if you entered it (i'm not familiar enough with DKS3) but both of these are not in the first 5 hours of their respective games and require >0 media literacy to recognise as queer so obviously it flies over gamers' heads; Elden Ring replaces the character creator designations of male / female with type A / type B so of course they're outraged
As far as I remember DKS3 didn't have anything as explicitly queer as the previous games, some people speculate that Anri of Astora is trans because maleAnri uses the same model as femaleAnri and you find the reversal ring (which swaps gender animations) next to where you betrothe them.
DKS1 had a character born male but raised female
Tbf thats not really "woke" because the character isnt trans, he was raised as a woman because he was good with lunar magic and that isnt manly in gwyn's sun kingdom so it was embarrassing.
Also anor londo is definitely not in the first 5 hours unless youve played before lol. Honestly most people will never hear of gwyndolin on their first playthrough at all
Maybe not "woke" per say but by :japan-cool: standards over a decade ago it's still pretty good
Well, anime has been doing crossdressing men forever, with various explanations for why they crossdress. "Abusive family forces them into opposite gender role" isn't even unique itself. Bridget was basically that in Guilty Gear XX from 2002 lol (though it wasn't her parents but rather the rest of the village)
Now that I think about it though, there is an interesting read of it that Gwyndolin is actually an AMAB trans man. If he (she?) ever transitioned at all. The reason I always read Gwyndolin as a man is because his follower refers to him as "Lord Gwyndolin" but I have no idea whether that sounds the same in Japanese or whether "Lords" in this setting are exclusively men as we would expect in real life. After all, all the gods are "Lords" in that setting arguably.
Honestly, with how ambiguous dark souls lore always is, there are some really interesting reads of this. Maybe Gwyndolin isn't even considered trans in Anor Londo, but the other way. Like maybe gender and sex aren't considered to be that closely related in Anor Londo and Gwyn wasn't being abusive like "oh, you're into the moon? not MY son!" and it was more like "oh, you're actually a girl? neat."
I always took Gwyndolin as a trans masc metaphor, no clue if it's the dev teams intent but:
He's always referred to by he/him pronouns.
Gwyndolin sealed himself away in darkmoon crypt because he's unable to bear the changes that happened to him as a result of the illusions that make him feminine.
The next you hear of him is in Dark Souls 3, since Gwyn has died he's abandoned the reversal ring (which is what was used to make him feminine) and left the crypt.
So you have this bloke that wants to present as male being forced to live as a woman because of the superstitions of this patriarchal authority, gaining control of his own life again and choosing to lives as a man. And I stress again that this is just my reading of the lore but that screams trans allegory to me.
So you have this bloke that wants to present as male being forced to live as a woman because of the superstitions of this patriarchal authority, gaining control of his own life again and choosing to lives as a man.
That was basically my read of it as well, however there's one problem. By the time you meet Gwyndolin in Dark Souls, Gwyn has been 'dead' for long enough that the world ended a long time ago. The rest of the gods fucked off to a different continent. Gwyndolin is here completely alone, except for a couple of worshipers. Gwyndolin is the god left. The only one.
So why's he still girl mode if that's not the way he wants to live?
For the same reason it took me until I was 30 to come out as trans.
He internalized what he was told about his nature
Dunno,
Could always be "time is convoluted" shenanigans.
Or, like, he's still processing his grief over what happened to Gwyn.
Or, any of a sundry of other reasons that I'm not sufficiently versed in Dark Souls lore to know about.
disconcerting out of place laughter
that thing.....gender
more laughter
give it to me
In addition to what everyone else said, it's probably the easiest game in the series to get into as a new player and these gatekeeping losers are mad about it
Irrelevant to you perhaps, but extremely jarring if youve played games for 30 years with the words Male and Female instead of Type A and Type B. Just realising now how dehumanising 'Type B' actually sounds when using it to describe the female form. But then again at it's core wokeism is anti-human, no love to be found, just self hatred and bitterness projected onto society, deeply sad.
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Elden Ring is woke now? What happened, they play it so much they know it inside and out and now that they no longer plan on playing it are just calling it woke?
Guessing it'll stop being woke temporarily when DLC gets released in that case.
(Also lol, it says 'ethics' under the title of the subreddit; these people think they care about ethics? Or is it they just like the aesthetic of it like they're libs or something?)
Elden Ring is woke now? What happened, they play it so much they know it inside and out and now that they no longer plan on playing it are just calling it woke?
They are, and I am not joking, dismissing the entire game as 'woke' because you select body type 1 or 2 instead of male/female.
Some truly grim stuff. All of the baroque, trad bullshit about the sacred masculine and feminine stripped of all the pomp and circumstance until it's just some totally atomized computer guy screaming at a screengame over something the vast majority of people won't ever notice or care about.
I am just thanking God they don't pay attention to old school video games as much.
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Link in OoT was made to look androgynous on purpose for immersion reasons, Link is really only a dude because it serves as a challenge for one part of the game.
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Porky Minch and Count Veger, characters they would want as protagonists, are both villains.
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Sly Cooper implies that lawful and good are not necessarily synonyms. You're greatest obstacle in the series is Carmelita Fox, although she is well-intentioned, she still ultimately stands in the way of Sly who is arguably more efficient in stopping actual terrorists. Oh yeah, and also Sly adopts knowledge from ancestors that came from non-white countries IRL, and the villains from both western and non-western countries are equally portrayed as competent. Also, the first boss you face is literally them: A spoiled WASP who commits acts of evil for entertainment because his life was so easy he got bored.
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inFamous 2 and infamous Second Son. In the former, whether you play as good or evil, you get to smack around a bunch of fascists with southern drawls. In the latter, the "evil" playthrough turns you into an antifa supersoldier.
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Not a video game, but a good way to make these losers seethe is to point out that Magneto has canonically defeated Red Skull, who tried the same "you're no better than me" logic on the former.
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Pre-Character development Mewtwo did nothing wrong.
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You can select a gender in Dark Souls 1 and it's explicitly called gender. You're given male or female.
Elden Ring gives you a choice between a "buff body" and a "thin body" with the former being masculine and the other feminine. You then choose a masculine or feminine voice, independent of your body type, and your voice decides which pronoun is used for your character. You also have access to a mirror that applies "cosmetics," allowing you to go back to the character creator at any point.
Cyberpunk 2077 had something similar I think, rather than gender they give you a choice between two body shapes.
Reactionaries are mad games arent putting the words male and female in the creator screen which is the most whiny pissbaby thing to care about. They've lost no ability to customize their character, it's only expanded, and yet they're still mad
It could also partly be that
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Radagon and Marika are the same person
and that's too trans for them.
It's been a long running joke that gamergate was about "ethics" in game's journalism, when in reality it's a fancy smokescreen to put up to guise harassment of their targets, namely women and minorities like any other reactionary.
I mean it is about a world that could not resolve its contradictions and instead lead to "The common ruin of the contending classes", and the PC is there to start history up again by murdering all the stuck gears, but I'm pretty sure they're just mad about the character creator.
They must have realized that Japanese people aren't white nor Americans.
KiA would have defended 4kidz Americanization back in the day to get rid of that "complicated commie country crap."
Also, to answer your question. These people think corporations are TOO ethical these days and as such, are "traitors".
I don't know much, but for what it's worth, kotakuinaction is definitely marked as a reactionary subreddit by Masstagger
Approx 110% of people who use the phrase "the female form" are weird incels
I was going to say i’ve heard that terms a lot from artists, but that changes nothing about what you said.
All these people have is the culture war, that's how they vote, buy, think, live and act. It's all about whatever panders to their sensibilities and "owns da blue haired SJWs". Shit's seeped into politics wherein we don't get meaningful change that makes our material lives better, we just feel better because "our guy/gal" says the shit that makes the other team seethe. Then people wonder why younger folks don't vote and everyone is checking out on this shit :yes-honey-left:
Starfield isn't even out yet so they are correct in calling it unfinished. Also remembering that Dying Light 2 exists in the year of our lord 2023 is concerning.
It's a Bethesda game, so they'll always be correct in calling it unfinished.
Whats wrong with Dying Light? IDK much about the series other than it has parkour and zombies and is pretty well regarded
Dying Light 2 came out about a year ago, but I believe remains in a state that could be generously called Early Access. My understanding is it's a very buggy and incomplete game that lacked a ton of the first game's features and didn't really add anything. I don't really know anything else and I honestly forgot it even came out until this post.
These losers are still around?
Holy shit, they need to realize they are a fucking joke. Everyone in the game industry who matters thinks they are stupid.
As most normal people when told about gender and such and that it would make a number of people feel comfortable to have A or B, just.. update the menu. As no one is actually hurt by saying the wider hip model is B and not FEMALE. Despite these kia nerds pretending to be hurt.
They never have cared about this, it’s always been an excuse to try and step on other people.
They have been in victory dance mode for NINE FUCKING YEARS at this point. Everyone loves them, hate crimes are up, and I am pretty sure that if you press them closely enough "I did it for the lulz" is the main reason WHY these hate crimes happen. They won the culture wars.
They'd at least be a little less insufferable if they just admitted they were the mainstream establishment.
They lost.
Do you not remember how more than a decade ago making fun of trans people was normal?
They lost the culture war, but they control the us government.
They are banning queer books from school libraries. A decade ago there weren’t that many queer books even in the school libraries.
Do you not remember how more than a decade ago making fun of trans people was normal?
And we've got states making the very conversation of their existence illegal.
Progress! Weeee!
A decade ago there weren’t that many queer books even in the school libraries.
A decade ago, conservatives were just coming to terms with the existence of trans people. Now its a full blown witch hunt.
They are doing it because most people thought about it and went “trans people are real and not a punchline”
This shit is pure reactionary from them because just killing people is unpopular.
Claims to be the standing authority on video games.
Only litmus test for "quality" is if it follows the Haye's code.
Sheeple should go back to sportsball and stop gentifying vidya.
"Wow, everything about my hobby fucking sucks. Instead of using this opportunity to find a new hobby and become a more well-rounded person, I'm just going to impotently whine about how my hobby now fucking sucks in front of a bunch of Internet strangers."
A better person would be an indie game designer by now… and discover that making games sucks too!
Imagine spending multiple hundreds of dollars on recent releases, and each one you can't finish because of some ideological problem with them...
Idk I'd just quit consuming that type of media.
I either avoid reactionary media or I just recognize the media for its faults. I don't refuse to engage entirely, because then I'd have to avoid 99% of things. I can watch a Batman movie while knowing it's fascist, why do these g*mers have to be such whiny children?
