IN ACCORDANCE WITH MEGAN'S LAW I AM LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO INFORM YOU THAT I'M SEX OFFENDER RIIIIIIIICK
holy fucking shit glad I've never financially supported any of this guy's work
:libertarian-approaching:
edit: even if she was eighteen who the fuck tells a woman that she should start camwhoring? fucking second rate andrew tate ass
"Kind of sus" in the "implying that you want to purchase photos of said adult friend's butthole" sense.
Reddit crystalized into an atomically perfect lattice structure.
Lol yup. I just got downvoted to shit for suggesting that people in their 20s shouldn't date 16 year olds. Insane place.
Say what you will, the divide by 2 add 7 formula pretty closely tracks the "normal/creepy" borderline of age gaps, especially from around 14-20
The anti-ephebophilia rule. I like it because the gap starts close and grows as you get older, and never includes an age bracket that would be more "immature" then you at your age.
Thought it need to start at 20
Why would anyone want to date a teenager? I was horrible when I was a teenager.
Dude I look at like early 20s people as kids at this point and I’m only a decade older. I literally can’t think of anything worse than having a 21 year old spouse and having to hang out with their 21 dumbass year old friends and go to their horrible 21 year old parties haha.
You should probably put "CW: Pedophilia and ableist/homophobic language" otherwise, wow :what-the-hell: glad I never got into this show.
Yeah I came in here looking for sexpest text logs and even then I was startled by what I found.
Shit like this really does lend a lot of evidence to Epstein making his riches off blackmailing other rich pedophiles, there's so many of them, it's like any man who gets a taste of wealth and fame becomes one.
im of the mind that epstein was cia and part of the machinery built by the "deep state" or whatever you want to call it to ensure the rich, famous, and powerful tow the party line. i would not be surprised if a culture of pedophilia was cultivated and aggressively expanded in the halls of power by the cia for purposes of control -- we know they do this exact shit to control powerful figures in foreign nations and with the whole epstein thing it seems so very likely to me that this is going on domestically on a much larger scale
It would make sense. Rising cultural acceptance of homosexuality in the west meant that blackmail around sexual orientation was being closed off to them, and we know how much they loved that little trick.
Im not sure from memory of all details, but the book Jakarta Method discusses sex blackmail being used and how it wasn’t successful in Indonesia and made Sukarno seem cooler to people.
Edit: sex blackmail done by the CIA
The boring-ass lib coffee-table book Secret CIA that I've been posting in c/history even has a chapter on it
I think it's even bigger than that: until comparatively recently (the past few decades) it seems like the mainstream view on like middle age suburbanite men creeping on teenage girls wasn't meaningfully different from the view on adultery from them in general. That is, negative because it's adulterous sex and not because they're preying on a child. Hell even as recently as a decade ago the "well, it's legally not porn" lewd shots of underage girls were still considered as respectable and normal as porn in general: reddit built its name on subs dedicated to sexualizing teenage girls, among worse subjects.
So you've got generations of men socialized to see teenage girls as acceptable objects of lust, with an obvious intersection with the general culture of men feeling entitled to any and every treat they want even when that treat is control over someone else's body. Throw in how many men are sex pests in general and how this gets worse the more untouchable and powerful they feel and the scope of the problem starts to become clearer.
At a certain level of wealth people stop saying “no” to you, or rather you can just ignore the “no”s.
There is truth to this, even outside of Epstein. Blackmail of this type is a very old idea. Stuff like Bohemian Grove isn't the cannibalistic sex-murder-orgies the conspiracy theories make them out to be, but it is a place where the excessively wealthy go to perform rituals to dispel any notions of immorality in or... culpability? for their actions, like confessional for a catholic (I assume, as a non-Papist.) More like communal sin-eating now that I think about it.
This spring I plan on digging into Whitney Webb's One Nation Under Blackmail: The sordid union between Intelligence and organized Crime that gave rise to Jeffrey Epstein because this stuff exists today outside of the Epstein/Maxwell Network. Dick Durbin, a former representative from my home state got caught up in a similar scandal. Franklin Credit Union is another good example.
Basically our whole society exists on a bedrock of extortion and coercion at different levels and intensities at different social strata, sexual blackmail like this scratches the surface
I can't remember who said it, but being blackmailable is apparently good for your career. If you're clean, no one trusts you with power.
Exactly, even in my own work it is "unbecoming" for "young professionals" to not go to bars after work with suits etc. and work parties and stuff like that. International interns are placed in precarious situations and suggested to ingratiate themselves within the power structure at the company. Not that there is necessarily anything sexual involved as implied referencing Epstein etc. but it gives opportunities for people to get leverage over one another.
Yeah he really did the whole fucking deranged redditor bingo in those few texts. Jesus fucking Christ what a psycho.
What the hell is wrong with people's brains that make them act this way at all? Even my dumb texts are never this unhinged, and I'm not even a creator who could lose my entire fortune over controversy and yet somehow again and again these shitty assholes can't help it.
Sometimes it makes me wonder how many people are similar in behavior normally but actually have the competency to never act out.
It’s honestly more pathetic than actual pedophiles. They are lame and would be rejected by peers/other adults for their BS, and they tend to have been lame as teens so they hit on a hot high school girl to fill that void.
Like Seinfeld dating a 17 year old high school girl in 93 until she was 21 and dumped him, probably because he wasn’t mature enough.
Like I bet DiCaprio gets dumped by these women when they turn 25 and realize he’s not maturing.
"actual"? Like the Buddha would say, "what you think, you become". They choose to think like a creep, so they are creeps.
There is a world of difference between scumbags who like the wrongness of it, and the fuckers who are cursed to be attracted to children. I’m not going further than that.
A lot of white American men don't believe in consequences to their actions. They only get more unhinged the more money they have. Roiland was already massively rich and influential by 2015.
The world is a giant theme park made exclusively for them. Other people are simply toys to be picked up and then discarded. Rules don't exist and when they do, a tantrum and/or throwing money around will fix it.
These people live in a global McDonald's play ground full of whatever treats they demand.
whenever i think im a loser and i suck it sure is great to know that at least im not as bad as this guy. really puts pep in the step
Rick: Its all bullshit Morty, always has been. Numbers are just a creation of humans to keep track of things. And age? Time isnt even real, Morty!
Summer: Grampa, you are literally a pedophile
Rick: Its called Eph burp ebophile!
:alex-karma: I don't know what it is about dopey Gen X white dues but they keep being fucking creeps.
It's like some combination of arrested development and inferiority complex.
I think it less gen x, and more nerdy white dude problem. Nerdy white dudes feel like they "missed out" during their formative years, and project that onto young women with no regard for their current age. Arrested development is a perfect descriptor, they are completely unable to progress past "I wish stacy was into me when I was young" and are completely unable to make the connection between " I am now an adult" and "projecting my insecurities and hatred of my past onto the young is bad".
No shit, toxic masc and our cultural obsession with youth is causing this. maybe a positive movement regarding older men could help? Like, that dos equis guy could get it, maybe more of that would be the carrot to stop these people turning into freak predators? The stick obviously involves a wall, but positive reinforcement is also useful.
It's so fucking weird how this has created a self feeding oroborus of media that continually reinforces the notion that "omg your teenage years are supposed to be the best ever!" like some faded after image of what was really going on with all the latchkey kids of the 1980s. Like all the pop culture nowadays has a chance of being made by a maladjusted man-child that was fed this weird aggrandizing teenage fantasy bullshit and are now in perpetual midlife crisis mode. Hell I almost fell down this fucking trap as a college student thinking "oh I'm not doing X which means I'm failing at life". Shit is fucking insidious and meant to instill a perpetual desire of consumption.
FR, to build off that, my mom was one of those latchkey kids. She hated it and was lonely. It is not something to idealize. (as a social "reject"), letting social rejects control pop culture is a mistake with dire consequences for the popular zeitgeist. Thank god I discovered leftism, it does wonders to dispel this bullshit. Insidious is a good descriptor, but is still to mild. English lacks a word for how fucked this shit is.
Honestly it's helped me a lot deal with self persecution issues due to idealized pop cultural milestones that aren't actually fucking real (see one of my other comments in the thread on sex pest nerdy men). I'd likely label it as some type of terminal cultural parasite that distorts how you perceive reality. It's why so much of culture nowadays feeds in on itself and can't see past itself (see all the comedy shows created or inspired by all the Newgrounds folks and how fucked they are).
do you mind elaborating on the newgrounds thing? I am vaguely aware (flash games during the computer room study hall as a kid) but never went into the forums. Good shit tho, culture feeding on itself is a thing that is almost certainly harming us all.
So from Newgrounds you saw a crop of new animators that made parody shorts on popular anime, memes, culture, that kinda shit. Thing is this is all they did, nothing else. You had folks like OneyG, MeatCanyon, etc be spawned from this. This meant that there's no real originality but just "insert funny violent action X lol so random" or "insert disturbing shit about X celebrity/person". This became the entire internet pop cultural discourse in which animators created a self feeding system in which you get the most clicks/views from low grade humor (similar to how most comedy is kinda mid tier today from writers). Thing is these peeps also like to insert misogyny shit, racist shit, gross shit, into their stuff creating a low grade but still present reactionary undercurrent. Overall think of them as another aspect of the internet feeding really bad aspects of humanity similar to how gamergate led to a clusterfuck of hate towards women/lgbtq peeps in gaming. What's sad is you had some cool animators from Newgrounds that either disappeared when they entered the industry or just left.
That all makes sense. Sudden flashback of content creators like sexuallobster. Thank god that era of the internet ended.
Oh shit I completely memory holed his stuff, god damn I feel old...
Part of the reason that disappoints me is because a couple of the "A"-list guys from the Newgrounds era (I'm thinking of Neil Cicierega, David Firth, Jonti "Weebl" Picking) actually turned out to be pretty cool. Weebl in particular seems to have had some sort of leftish awakening just over the last year, judging by his Twitter.
Oh yeah, Russian Dancing Men hits different now.
Even the guys from that milieu who didn't turn out to be overt leftists (Joel Veitch, The Brothers Chaps) just seem like good-natured guys who, on some level, can't believe they've been allowed to make a living in the animation business, and figure the best way to avoid screwing it up is to just be nice. It would not be the worst thing in the world if every high-profile show-business lib acted like that.
Nerdy looking :lmayo: here. I mean kinda true but also tbh it can also just be most guys nowadays due to how things are all fucked up. You also get sex pests among people we would stereotype as "jocks", overall the issue is that men now suffer from the body image fuckery of advertisements meant to sell ideal images of the self that women were suffering from the dawn of advertisement (diet pills and all that shit). Back in the day adverts for men were "buy x shirt and look dashing" now you have fucking muscle clubs, supplement cults, incel 4chan chin measuring (they bash their chin bone with hammers to make them "pronounced"). This all of course leads to hate of the self that then comes out as hate and abuse of others (i.e. maladaptive psychology 101). Honestly I suggest sussing out most guys on whether or not they hit specific leftist supporting check boxes given how I've been sidelined by friends suddenly going all misanthropic and misogynist out of fucking nowhere.
Honestly I suggest sussing out most guys on whether or not they hit specific leftist supporting check boxes
We all know there's assholes in the movement. I propose a more rigorous test:
He should have neutral-positive feelings about Taylor Swift and neutral feelings about Mitsky. Strong opinions either way are a red flag.
Welp I just added Mitsky to my youtube playlist now, thanks comrade!
I don't blame you. I'm basically that except my anxiety is too strong to even become a creep even if I wanted to (I don't, plz don't misread this) and your take is only logical. I still think these men could be turned into comrades. The realization of alienization is a hella strong argument in favor of socialism. A socialist society has the communal bonds "retvrn to trad" types yearn for while also not being evil. Loosening of sexual moores also only helps those sorts, like there is no wat they get chosen in a society which says "pick one person and only one to ever fuck and be bonded with for life". They just don't realize that their inadequacies (both real and self-perceived) make a more casual and, dare I say it, liberal system their only hope. I'm almost epstein-brained enough to think the powers that be do this on purpose. An alienated social underclass of people predisposed towards violence is good for the fucking rich pigs.
Don't want to partake in the thread no more. It's not good for me & I'm not really being constructive here.
Nah, this thread is about Roiland & other men in positions of power abusing that power to behave in a predatory way towards women (and in this case a minor), and it should stay that way. It shouldn't be about my shit.
Whatever. This isn't the thread for this. This is about Justin Roiland trying to groom a highschooler; not my dogshit life.
But like, no, other people "clocking" you as a creep doesn't necessarily mean you're the one in the wrong, is what I think.
Yeah that makes it worse but I think it's a bit more than just a rich person thing
It's insane that dudes can't just be normal. Like how can you not think for half a second to your self "Maybe I shouldn't be talking to a 16 year fan in this manner." like how bro? How can dudes rock when they do stuff like this?
I’ve only seen it tangentially but when you get to that level in media, between fans and executives, you go crazy from all the enabling. Good people are normal. Anyone who has a chip on their shoulder or unaddressed trauma tends to become their worst selves.
Absolutely true. This country struggles with horrific levels of patriarchy and misogyny.
I did it Morty! I turned myself into a sex offender Morty! I can't pick you up from school anymore Morty!
