We are going to see 2020 election again. The republican primary is over.
The dems don't even do the bare minimum to help people. Didn't deliver on a single promise and instead funded a war.
Pathetic. It has to be on purpose.
Tbf neither did the Republicans that govern Ohio. This is just a total shitshow
If you were given a job for 4 years where you didn't have to do anything, and couldn't get fired, wouldn't you slack?
the funniest result would be the republican party ratfucks him in the primaries so he runs as an embittered third party candidate and pulls just enough votes away from desantis that you get brandon 2
Brandon then croaks just after Christmas 2024, leaving Kamala president for three and a half weeks before she has to give a somber inauguration speech dressed in mourning black. She laughs inappropriately through the whole thing.
Doubtful. Trump surgically removed the old guard from the GOP, and they're still spitting angry about it. The old moneybags and national security wings aren't there any more. It's Trump's party now. You'll hear libs like the NYT scream and call Republicans a Trump cult.
The thing is, Trump can win the nomination but not the general. DeSantis can win the general but not the nomination. All the Democrats have to do is nominate a warm body and they're in.
He can win the general, especially with how shitty of a job Brandon has done. I think it's a fluke that he lost in 2020 in the first place
His loss in 2020 was indosyncartic. He started acting like a regular politician and gave up.
If he had simply stayed the course he would have won
In 2020 he had the entire establishment united against him. Right now there would be no such energy against him
I don't think it was a fluke. Shit was bad in 2020. I mean it's been bad for awhile now but 2020 felt fucking hopeless. But with the current messaging being "everything's fine, go back to brunch!", the urgency of removing the Orange Man might be gone.
Yeah, shit being particularly bad in 2020 is the only reason why Brandon managed to avoid snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The race was incredibly close as it was. Trump would've swept handily without the early pandemic chaos and George Floyd Uprising - that's what I mean by fluke. Now any things that are extra bad are the incumbent's fault so he'd have an even easier time winning.
Plus I do think larger numbers of Trump voters dying of COVID made at least some difference.
Unfortunately, the plague is now only killing children, homeless people and minorities. You know, people who cannot vote. Once it couldn’t touch anyone with money, the fence sitters stopped caring.
Trump can win the nomination but not the general
Feeling optimistic today, are we?
These token unsold campaign merch and fries will help you all forget how my administration fought against the regulation which could have prevented the destruction of your community. :jokerfied:
unsold campaign merch and fries
That's how low the bar is and the Dems literally can't clear it.
The best they can do is to tell the people who feel abandoned that they are stupid for feeling abandoned and that it is the other team's fault if they are actually being abandoned. Would it have killed the democrats to make even the tiniest effort to make it seem like they give a shit about these people? How hard would it be for Biden to go there, shake a few hands and have his picture taken?
The number of libs on twitter saying "but what about what trump did four years ago?" Is, i think, an op designed to drive me mad.
:geordi-no: "We see you, we hear you"
:geordi-yes: Potato
How many trains exploded while Trump was president??????? :think-about-it:
Who even was Trump's transportation secretary? They did such a good job you don't even know their name!
Rural white people are just like that, nothing you can do for most of them
Imagine doing the most obvious publicity stunt ever, and still managing to make dems look like shit.
How are dems so fucking terrible?
It's so utterly incomprehensible. This could so easily be Mayo Pete's time to shine, he could just go there, look earnestly into the camera in a practical windbreaker jacket while a firefighter explains something to him, then he'd promise an infrastructure package to do something against Amerikan railways crumbling to dust, which btw would be something that country needs if it wants to remain operational, and then he'd have more leverage when the GOP threatens to not pass the federal budget again. The Dems could seize the momentum and say "look, the GOP doesn't give a fuck about you, they want you to breathe in mustard gas". Easy as pie. It wouldn't even inconvenience the ghouls at Norfolk-Southern.
Instead, we get this.
Bit out of the loop but has Pete or Biden really not been at all?
Why on earth wouldn't they.
Pete finally went like two days ago and did mckinsey rat boy stuff. I don't think anyone was impressed.
I'm pretty sure he only went because he heard that there were a bunch of dogs that had been left behind by evacuating families
The corps that own them don't care who wins. America is a one party state with schizophrenia.
my home might be covered in toxic gas but at least i got a free hat
Unrelated but I went on the East Palestine wiki and jesus I didn't realize places that white still exist in America, even in small towns
As of the census of 2010 ... the racial makeup of East Palestine was 98.2% White, 0.2% African American,
5000 people and 10 of them are black lmao
Sounds like a lot of upstate New York tbh. People forget that white people in the us are still comfortably the majority and won’t be a minority for a lot longer than they think
Also that black people and a lot of other minorities are heavily concentrated in a few cities outside the south due to historical factors. There was that big migration to northern industrial cities in i want to say the 60s, but that feels wrong. I can't remember what it was called, either, but iirc it's when significant black populations moved to like detroit and chicago, hoping for better prospects away from the oppression of the south.
Well the US is like 64% white and I expected the whitest parts to be like 80 or 85% tbh
'Sundown Towns' still existed well into the 60's, I'm sure there's a few places which still operate under similar rules
one of the most insidious Amerikkkan ideological bugbears is the oddly common feeling that victims of tragedy (be it police brutality or a train derailment) deserve it if they can't precisely and academically articulate the exact systemic nature of the tragedy. in reality victims often won't have good takes about what happened to them, and that doesn't change a thing about the injustice they experienced at the hands of (usually) capitalists.
DeSantis isn't independently wealthy. I don't think he could do this.
mega hats
Would be way cooler if he actually handed out oversized comedy baseball hats.
It's got a little inner brim so that it fits on your head like a normal hat, but then it has a larger false brim around it so everyone is all "how does it stay so stable on your head?"
then it’s entirely possible a left-wing candidate could be elected president if they were able to win the democratic primary
:doubt:
"If they could win the democratic primary" is a biiiiiiiig if. Who even is a viable candidate? I thought we learned our lesson last time that entryism is a dead end strategy at the presidential level.
The Dems already pre-rigged the 2024 primary by moving South Carolina to front of the calendar rather than somewhere like Nevada.
Iowa getting delisted is no joke. The national apparatus lost the ability to rig the caucus, so they had to move onto a southern state that shouldn't even have a say in federal elections because they'd still be on probation for the civil war.
I don't understand why the primary isn't just ordered by the last 5 closest states with some weight towards EV. Put whatever the tipping point state was, first, and then go in order. So (without looking) I'd be something like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada, Wisconsin in some semblance of that order. Who gives a fuck what South Carolina thinks. They haven't voted for a Dem in 80 years.
Or just all vote on the same day like the general and every other country?
Two issues:
- The electoral college is a thing. Getting 70% of the vote in California doesn't mean you are electable in Pennsylvania.
- A national election would basically be won by the candidate with the most money. Smaller initial elections allow lesser known candidates a chance.
With how handily Bernie won Nevada I'm surprised they're even allowed in the primary anymore.
lol I had missed this. riiiiiiiiiiiiiigged
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2023/02/04/democrats-2024-presidential-primary-calendar/11180347002/
whoever the democratic candidate is, they will get full support from liberals regardless of their politics
If it's a liberal candidate, which Bernie could qualify as. If it was Kshama Sawant or a real leftist....well liberals don't have a good record choosing between socialism and fascism. Again I have no idea who this theoretical leftist Democratic candidate could be. I think even a Bernie candidacy would be enough of an excuse for Democrats to rebel, if not voting for Trump then voting for a centrist spoiler. Didn't Bloomberg threaten to run a spoiler campaign if Bernie won the primary?
I agree with your general sentiment that someone to the left of Biden could win against Trump, but the checks of bourgeoisie democracy prevent any sort of true change to happen with a presidential election.
If somebody challenges Biden from the left, and gains viability, I think you see the media pivot towards Trump.
All the reasons why Trump lost in 2020 are no longer a differentiator. Covid is "over", Biden has failed on inflation. It's the economy stupid. I don't think anybody actually cares about the war in Ukraine, but Trump can run as the anti-war candidate and just dunk on the neo-cons firmly located in the dem party now.
I think the dems would rather see Trump win than a leftist dem. They'd throw the whole contest and Neera Tanden would go I told you so while Chelsea Clinton holds a 1 3/4 fire hose that has so little pressure it folds.
we ran this experiment with Bernie, the dems wouldn't even go as far as to let him have the nom and then sabotage him against Trump
if they were able to win the democratic primary
we all should now know how much work this clause is doing
They outright said they'll discard the primary results if they don't like them. "Democracy"
After watching what happened to Bernie I do not think it is not possible for any candidate to win the democratic primary that the leadership does not want to win.
LOL Bernie got cheated out of the nomination twice and they'll screw him again.
This man is our next President and he's the one this country deserves
