US Energy Department says
... isn't that the wrong department to be weighing in on public health crises and their origins?
They run the system of National Laboratories in the US, one of which presumably did the "research" for this. But ya, I assume they just pawned this job off on some small bio research group and told them what the conclusion is suppose to be, something which the CDC might push back on.
The Department of Energy is a weird and eclectic department that has its hands in everything and is involved with a lot of things you wouldn't expect.
Well they couldn't really call it by it's actual function, could they? Nobody would want to work in the Department of Nuclear Annihilation, and if they did want to do that, they probably shouldn't be allowed anywhere near it.
Using the energy department to lower gas prices or study alternatives to mitigate climate change :geordi-no:
Using the energy department to spread conspiracy theories because you’re being humiliated on the world stage :geordi-yes:
Lol, climate change? Gas prices? 2/3rds of the dept of energy budget goes towards maintaining the US nuclear weapon stockpile
I know this because I remember when Rick Perry was appointed Sec of Energy and he also made the same mistake in thinking that it focused mainly on like, power generation
:thinking-about-it: very mysterious place and awfully coincidental corona broke out in Wuhan around the time of those military games. Even so, like you said, it's over and done with, covid is here and unlike China who actually combated the virus the USA is just looking to place blame for reasons.
Also "vaping illness" and "vape tongue" along with a mystery respiratory illness tearing through nursing homes around Detrick in 2019.
:bean-think:
We would love to investigate Fort Detrick but unfortunately it closed down on February 26th.
By the way, want to come as my plus one to the Fort Liberty ribbon cutting ceremony on February 27th?
:biden-point: "We will do everything we can to show that it definitely wasn't me and almost certainly was that asshole down the street who forgot to secure the gate and let all the horses out."
Reporter: What is being done to track down and safely contain the horses?
:biden-alert: "Horses? There are no horses."
I remember hearing a talk with some reporter that follows the intel community and they said that if it's "low confidence", they're making it up.
I have low confidence that the president of America is actually bigfoot wearing a mask, having shrunk in old age.
A laboratory leak of something that was found in italy, greece and spain 2 years before it was in China?
Also found in blood donation screens for samples taken in several states of the US before China even identified the disease. Spanish flu 2.0.
No I definitely saw an article where they found traces of it in samples that were 2 years old, waste water or something. Right now the oldest I can find is this from Spain, March 2019, 9 months before China. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-spain-science-idUSKBN23X2HQ
This alone is enough to say this didn't come from a Chinese lab.
They've identified patented genetic code in covid from a patent that is 3 years pre-pandemic , so I'm pretty sure that I did see a 2 years old one. The identification of this within the genetic code is probably responsible for the new position by the US gov too in my opinion.
I am certain I saw one that was 2 years old.
In Wuhan? Yes. I don't really remember all of the details though just vaguely remember that it was absolutely clear that covid had been found in the wild as long as 2 years before the Wuhan find, it just wasn't identified and they did so retroactively.
Didn't this get settled years ago that it was almost certainly a transition from the bats? I remember reading about it for a couple of months, they did the genetics, the compared it to other stuff, it was bas. It wasn't Detrick, it wasn't Wuhan, it was animal to human transmission.
Thought it was palangins but yeah from what I've seen the scientific consensus is that it was animal->human.
Oh man. The Guardian is going to be deplatformed for disinformation and spreading conspiracy theories.
The energy department’s updated findings run counter to reports by four other US intelligence agencies that concluded the epidemic started as the result of natural transmission from an infected animal. Two agencies remain undecided...The CIA remains undecided between leak and natural transmission theories
I haven't looked much into it, but what about the evidence of COVID-19 already spreading in other places (such as Italy and Spain) prior to the detection Wuhan?
Edit:
Congrats on writing one of the dumbest things I've seen on this website
the red chinese were experimenting with the most devastating biological weapon of all time -- a flu-like respiratory infection that mostly kills those far too old for military conscription and manual labor. truly the first thing one would experiment with when choosing from all the deadly plagues known to man one to engineer into a bioweapon
using “chabuduo” methods like they usually do
writing this on the dark side of the moon so only China can see it
I learned about "chabuduo" right as I was finishing my 2016 DIY home reno. I know this is childish and probably borderline-orientalist but it's a fun phrase to say and I found it immensely useful as a sort of mantra to ward off perfectionism-related anxiety and paralysis, which were thought-patterns I needed to be rid of in general at that stage in my life. By the end, I had a couple of the contractors saying it lol
it is a fun phrase, I haven't thought about it hard enough yet but it's somehow telling that the closest American analogue is "close enough for government work"
probably borderline-orientalist
If saying something in Chinese and applying a useful concept to your life is orientalist, then most of my diet, and my entire mental health self care routine is for sure orientalist. And the fact that I dress up like a geisha while tending my bonzai garden.
Even if it did come from a lab in China (and that's a huge IF), the US paid for it.
