Incredible.
Do you know where they've interned before? Most CS majors I knew that never had an adblocker did it because they worked at a company like LinkedIn, Google, Meta, etc. that depended on ad revenue so they started feeling like it was "wrong" to use one lmao
Yes, they've said that it felt weird to use an adblocker while their company depends on ad revenue and they didn't want to "hurt themselves"
CS majors and software engineers working at high profile tech companies like the ones I listed and many more generally put a lot of their self worth and sense of identity with what employer they work at because of the prestige and social status. Hence the massive bootlicking and thinking their company's interests are the same as theirs
that level of idealism and ingroup identification likely forms the foundations for most movements, the sad thing is that those people chose to place their faith in glorified ad companies
honestly believe that the real reason engineers get taken out behind the shed and shot after 30 is because that is when they tend to grow out of this type of stupidness
Imagine a McDonald's employee thinking "eh, I'm really more of a Wendy's kinda guy, I don't ever really wear McDonalds" and then feeling bad about it and ordering a big Mac on his day off. As though it's some sort of failing of the employee if they're company makes tons of money on everybody except for them.
I know a guy that expressed this sentiment even though he has absolutely zero skin in the game and I couldn't really wrap my head around it. Why you would willingly throw away days of your life watching the same fucking ad every time you want to watch a video.
:wojak-nooo: don't steal from my delicious mega corp :bootlicker:
The other day someone was showing me a video on youtube and we sat in silence for 15 seconds while an unskippable ad for a pharmaceutical drug played
I always forget some people don't have adverts blocked and every time this happens I wonder why they hate themselves
I installed some sort of ad blocker since I was in like middle school, perhaps earlier, and was always perplexed when my teachers didn't despite having to use youtube often for class lol
Honestly, I'm starting to want to work for IT in schools now so I can pre-install firefox with ublock for the whole system because it seems like everyone only knows google chrome and that's just sad
Yeah I use firefox with ublock and ghostery for personal stuff and Edge for University stuff because the school site messes up with blockers, lame.
Ghostery sells information about the data being blocked back to the advertisers. Not sure if there's a more secure fork out there since it's open source, but beset to just avoid it. I use uBlock + Privacy Badger, but many say PB is unnecessary if you're already using UB
Oh shit, thanks for the heads up.
It's fucked that they can do that without telling people.
Taking it one step further, you can also add noscript, although that could be more trouble than it's worth. It's interesting to see what various sites are running though (usually google stuff, even on government sites).
I have the same fantasy, but I would put everyone on Linux too just for giggles.
i literally could not live without a blocker. ive had blockers on my computer since i was like 11 or some shit when youd usually just put a list of domains in a file on your computer (which you should still do tbh, it blocks ads in apps). whenever i go outside it is jarring to see billboards, so i dont go outside :comfy-cool:
I deleted youtube after i wasn't able to block ads on it. Now I just waste my time on here :virgil-phone:
use firefox, it allows ublock origin on mobile, which blocks youtube ads
i literally could not live without a blocker
yeah we all know you're trans :trans-undertale:
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My bad joke about beta blockers. Tell me if this is too far, bad taste, or Allah forbid not funny.
:yea: the first thing i do when my "friends" ask me to fix their pc is install ublock
my dad had a "virus." i installed ublock and removed two adware browser extensions that were giving him popup ads. problem fixed, no CS degree required
You really do hate to see it. Students running Iceweasel on Gentoo Linux and i3wm with an old Thinkpad are a dying breed.
My thoughts and prayers go out to the people who are forced to use the internet without an adblocker. It is beyond me how anyone can stand interacting with the web as it is "supposed" to look. It is just so ugly and pointless and distracting.
Advertising is one of the things that makes me feel like everyone else has gone mad and I'm the last sane person alive. Those fuckers are blasting the most disgusting propaganda in our faces 24/7 for the most stupid reasons imaginable. It is making the world much uglier than it had to be and for literally no positive social value. And people accept it like it is the most natural thing in the world.
Advertising is one of the things that makes me feel like everyone else has gone mad and I’m the last sane person alive. Those fuckers are blasting the most disgusting propaganda in our faces 24/7 for the most stupid reasons imaginable. It is making the world much uglier than it had to be and for literally no positive social value. And people accept it like it is the most natural thing in the world.
I only see snapshots of contemporary widescale advertising when I'm in line at a bank or office somewhere, but when I do, each such snapshot of marketing gimmicks seems more aggressive and more anxiety inducing than what I saw in the months before that, presumably on purpose.
I've thought these exact thoughts myself. I honestly don't understand how everyone's consent is still manufactured when the world is as fucking stupid as it is.
Advertising is one of the things that makes me feel like everyone else has gone mad and I’m the last sane person alive.
I used to love ice hockey. Growing up, you had ads on the boards which were a little annoying but I could live with it. Now, the NHL has ads all over the ice, on the jersey, some boards have electronic ads which are more annoying, and superimposed ads on the glass. I decided I was done, as much as I enjoy the sport I'm not gonna subject myself to all that.
And when I explain to most hockey fans that I left the sport over that, they cannot understand and think I've lost my mind.
Computer Science started being the go-to degree to get a well-paying job like 15 years ago. It still has people who are genuinely into the subject matter of course, but it also has everyone who would've went to law school in the world of 20 years ago. And probably a sizable amount of would-be doctors and dentists, now that finance keeps squeezing those jobs too.
I know some people who went into healthcare wanting to help others and make a difference in their community. But after being exposed to American healthcare, insurance, patients, they're usually jaded and irritated with everyone, and want to go back to school for CS or a cert
literally me (except i didnt turn to CS) after taking one medical sociology course and realizing 10% of amerika doesnt have health insurance and amerikans spend 18% of the GDP on health. also they taught us abt stuff like the Tuskegee syphilis experiments and how DOCTORS AND NURSES ARE LITERALLY TAUGHT IN SCHOOL HOW TO BE RACIST
These kids have grown up in a different era. Some don't know about torrenting anymore :kitty-cri-screm:
This.
Many Zoomers don't know about torrenting, about basic file directories, about adblockers, using firefox, etc.
The whole "computer as your house" aesthetic, which definitely includes using linux, is just absent in Zoomers. Probably because they mostly use phones.
IME, most coders and developers are nowhere near as good with computers as people think. They mostly interact with their PC by typing shit in their IDE. People who are actually good with computers either have tech support backgrounds or fiddle around with Linux as a hobby. Sysadms tend to be good with computers as well. Every other STEM professional (engineers, coders, scientists) are only marginally less clueless about computers compared with the general public.
Yeah, I felt this too. What about IT people? That just counts as tech support?
IT encompasses a lot of positions from tech support to developers to sysadms to people who install security cameras and keycards. I wasn't really talking about tech support in general but tech support within IT.
Not surprised lol. I interact with software devs multiple times a week, me being entirely on the data side of the house. I am routinely baffled by the ineptitude. I've contributed to open source software since middle school roughly, I'm just glad I never even considered writing software for a living for a minute. Just glue code for data stuff.
The number of people who have been programmers for years and seemingly have no idea how anything is built beyond hitting "Run" or "Build" in their IDE, no concept of the considerations for something running at scale in production, no concept of thread safety when injecting dependencies... This is clinical trial data collection which is probably the slowest moving industry out there, after power grid stuff. We still collect outcome assessments via paper + OCR and phone questionnaires.
I have a CS degree and it's probably good than I didn't pursue a programming career because I totally would have been one of those incompetent idiots. I barely learned shit in school and whatever crap job I could have gotten after graduating would have only taught me the bare minimum to do that job. I never took it upon myself to learn more about how things work because I didn't have any real passion or interest in it.
Honestly my job is a dead end for improving programming skills, I seriously wonder if I won't be competitive when I want to switch jobs because this job gave me no nonproprietary experience
Switch when you can. Don't become a 40-50 year old engineer who can't do it from scratch. You'll have a hell of a time finding a job then!
most people in tech are not geniuses
can't overstate this. The Dunning-Kruger-ness of the field was more surprisingly to me than how 99% male the field is
"Intelligence is a generalized stat that applies to all fields of knowledge and being in a six figure tech job means autodidactical mastery of everything from the start" is a belief system that leads to capital-R "Rationalists" modeling their cult around Harry Potter fanfiction.
computer science != good with computers
computer science ~= good with stupid brainfuck math olympiad/discrete math problems
I've seen way too many examples where being good with discrete math would really help to write clean and fast code instead of whatever the fuck it was.
Discrete math was the only mathematics I actually enjoyed in any way. Calc + trig :live-slug-reaction:
Mostly because I was actually working on applications where the problems were discrete maths problems way before I ever had the option to take it in school.
On my current job I'm neck deep in calc, analytic geometry (with tons of trigonometry) and discrete math. It's sometimes very fun to decipher code that was written just a couple months ago.
In fairness, computer science is not 'know about computers' but 'know about this mathematical-adjacent concept'.
But yes, the penetration of Chrome and people's completely apathy to adblockers is deeply upsetting to me. Did we fight the IE wars for nothing?!
I sat next to a guy in a networking class and showed him how to speed up assignment tutorials on YT, really blew his mind.
I don't get how people that go to :reddit-logo: can be unaware of adblockers, which I'm guessing these CS majors have been on. I remember seeing plenty of comments on unrelated posts helpfully explaining how to block ads. Ads are bad, who wants to willingly be exposed to that trash?
Maybe they auto-downvote anything mentioning adblockers nowadays. I haven't been on there in a while.
But how will I know what the algorithm demands i wholesome chungus consoom??
