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https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/news/young-women-south-korea-spend-150000641.html
Young women in South Korea spend $700 a month on skincare.
One-third of Korean women between the ages of 19 and 39 have had some kind of cosmetic surgery, according to a 2020 Gallup Korea poll — 66 percent said they would go under the knife to improve their chances on the marriage market. Even more distressing, a 2007 survey by the brand Dove found that one in four Korean mothers advised daughters between the ages of 12 and 16 to go under the knife.
Over 56 percent of Korean men said they would break up with their girlfriend if she said she was a feminist.
Bad Korea seems like such a horribly repressive place for women. The aesthetic labour required to be tolerated by their incel freaks is so much more than in the west.
Holy... They need roving gangs of armed feminists just to act normal at this point.
I’ve often said that the CIA should be arming women like they’re the mujahideen in the 80s.
Why would the CIA arm the women of Occupied Korea? Roving, raving incel men benefits the crackers at the end of the day because you can easily convince a dumb schmuck who feels like he has nothing to gain and nothing to lose to go commit murder and SA in another country.
I’m not being ideologically consistent here, I just want women to have unlimited free TOW and Stinger missiles.
Okay yeah, that's fair. Diana knows there's enough Stinger missiles to go round.
"Women hold up half the sky", but it's a threat like the suffragette bombings.
Why would any south korean women ever go into a relationship with a south korean man at that point. Like even if you're truly dedicated to that "Heterosexuality" nonsense, I would be sorting Tinder by furthest away.
How is that? It just sounds like women are making the conscious decision to not look for anyone.
Tinder propagates the comodification of sexuality and relationships and perpetuates toxic masculinity. To put it very nicely. It and other platforms of its kind recreate the very culture we see so exeplified in South Korea.
Over 56 percent of Korean men said they would break up with their girlfriend if she said she was a feminist.
damn they dont even need the 4b movement, the incels are doing it themselves lmao
It's incredible how South Korea takes everything bad about Japan and turns all dials to 11.
marriage market
Capitalists try not to turn literally every part of life info a "market" challenge...
The left should not support the transphobic, TERF ideology, gender essentialist, racist self hating 4B movement. That movement "feminism as neocolonialism" personified.
warning: murder, SV, racism
Their forums have celebrated killing innocent men as well as sexually harrassing men, celebrated the sexual assault and rape of boys, and encourages having sexual relations with colonialist US troops, along with perpetuating racist tropes about Korean men. They are also extremely transphobic and homophobic. This movement will not lead to women's liberation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Womad_(website)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyehwa_Station_Protest
This is like a Incel Civil-War, Female Incels vs. Male Incels. Wtf South Korea.
Holy fuck, thank you for pointing this shit out. I see so many feminist accounts on social media celebrate 4B, and I actually get really scared because I'm transfeminine, and as I've said before, I always am skeptical of how much mainstream (non-TERF) feminists are really opposed to transphobia. Seeing this constant praise of the 4B movement just makes me really depressed and self-hating again because I'm sure these kinds of South Korean women would want to kill someone like me.
The 4B movement has been whitewashed (literally and figuratively) by western radical/egalitarian liberals and progressives in the media, as it serves the western interests of the continued colonisation of South Korea. A lot of it is based on propaganda based on Eurocentric ideology about the west and western men being more perceptible to social justice and equal rights and opportunities. Let's be clear, the kind of men engaging in sex and marriage tourism in South-East Asia ("passport bros" and the like) do not support social justice.
This kind of thing makes me lose hope in social progressivism, as a socially progressive person.
The solution to sexism is less westernisation and colonisation, not more!
Yeah, as a black transfeminine enby, I can't say I approve of this at all. Do progressives just not care about me at all? The message I get is that they'd be okay with me being treated like shit because they're promoting bioessentialism, alongside racism, that makes me an enemy. If westernization, white supremacy, colonization, and transphobia are going to be standard parts of progressive movements, I want nothing to do with them because I want to be involved with a movement that doesn't reinforce the feeling that I'm subhuman. That's why I started avoiding conservatives and began involving myself with revolutionary socialist ideology a lot more. The last fucking thing I need is to feel like I’m less than human on the basis of my race and gender identity because I’ve done that for too long already. It’s a familiar thought process that I’ve had enough of and I want to fucking change. I don’t seem to be getting a change of pace here at all, though. Wish me luck with not feeling depressed all day over this.
Holy shit that is genuinely beyond the pale. This whole time I was thinking it was just a tamer Divestor movement based on how fucked up Occupied Korea has been for the past couple decades, but that is so much fuckin worse thank you for the heads up. Also, holy hypocrisy in the "relations with US troops" do they think the troops won't SA them worse? I served; I know what those animals are like. Where do they think a serviceman will be Any different from any other west-poisoned man?
Yeah they leaked a bunch of information about US troops they had sex with, including nude photographs. Now while I don't feel sorry for US troops here, I do not understand the logic, to put it lightly.
Thank you. I already pointed this out on another hexbear post about 4B, but this movement is explicitly extremely transmisogynistic and they are not trying to hide it. If we're trying to be a trans-friendly space this is not something we should be supporting.
People just see "feminist movement" in a country with a lot of sexism and say "yeah, sounds good" without looking closer.
A good example of how contrarianism is not theory, even if it will sometimes get you close to the right place.
Damn very gross, I will, however, be incorporating this into my vocabulary
“Controversy also arose over the phrase "do a Jae-gi" used by some protesters, referring to Sung Jae-gi, a men's rights activist who committed suicide by jumping off a bridge on 26 July 2013”
I've skimmed this guys wikipedia post and I'm just coming away from it confused and also good god is the whole gender topic in south korea fucked
I learned about them back when I played Girls Frontlines lol. Apparently one of the participants was also an artist and there was some drama over the assets.
Sorry I didn't realise this was transphobic. I will delete this post. Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
Are we sure we even want to reunite cool korea with a nation of incels at this point
The image is hosted on githubusercontent not lemmygrad.ml
When Hexbear federated with other instances and enabled images there was a wrecker that immediately started spamming porn. People can click the fediverse icon to see what you posted but I just assume that they can't pick and choose which instances to block for external images. I think you'd have to use HB emoji links like
to get it to show up
Is that what it's for? I assumed it was to prevent people from scraping IPs.
you just have to make sure the socialist system remains and the capitalist system is purged, not the other way around
Reeducating Cringe Korean men through domestic labor. Vast camps where they just do laundry, cooking, dishes, and cleaning all day.
Each bedroom contains a small fishtank with a single fish you must take care of
uncritical support for the DPRK in its heroic struggle to liberate occupied Korea from the genocidal American empire
Hard, maybe impossible, to tell how much low Korean birthrates is due to capitalism vs the 4B movement.
Maybe I'm being a vulgar materialist but wouldn't the 4b movement be superstructural development (that is now affecting the base) emerging from the mode of production?
Yeah. But there are dozens of countries with really low birth rates (none as low as south Korea though) and they don't have a 4B movement (yet).
hostile work environment
social pressure that penalize women
nothing is affordable
Yeah must the fault of feminism
Part of me was like “Fuck, is that really true?” but wow is it hard to find any English articles that aren’t like “Korea’s birth rate is in decline but we’re definitely only going to talk about it in passive voice with no investigation into why.” Apparently this has been going on for way longer than the 4B thing?
I wonder if there is a movement of men who are willing to change their bullshit ways in order to not be straight up shunned by women. Like, to some extent the "I want a relationship" desire has to become stronger than "I refuse to do chores around the house and want to treat women like objects". Or maybe that's idealism and every vaguely left leaning idea of equality has been so thoroughly stamped out of worst Korea that it isn't an option
I can't speak for Korean manosphere ideology, but all i see of the Western equivalent is built very thoroughly towards a hermetically sealed world view were the tiniest bit of change will make you a beta cuck doomed to a lifetime of paying child support for somebody else's children. Inocculation against criticism is very central to incel, PUA, high value male and MIGTOW discourses. So within that ideological framework, doubling down in an attempt to become as alpha as possible and getting one of the last remaining tradwifes or becoming completely blackpilled are the only logical conclusions.
One of my favorite Korean webcomics is about a lesbian couple and even in the ideal wholesome ending where everything goes right they barely have time for each other.
The phrase "South Korea has no first graders" had such "the west has fallen (mom took away my PSP)" energy I had to do a little digging to see if the numbers were being fudged - 157 elementary schools is about 2.5% of the elementary schools in ROK assuming this data from the ROK Ministry of Education is accurate. Not an insignificant percentage for something this crazy, but I'd like to see this data over time. I worry I sound like I'm awarding Pinocchios but it irks me to see that headline presented as if it's the majority of schools
I think shit's like actually dire in this regard in South Korea to the point I do not understand how this isn't being handled in any way. Going by current predictions in about 50 years there's only going to be half the population left and the average age is going to be 61. That is not a workeable state. They either need to fix their boning problems yesterday or become a nation of immigrants
If the Korean government decides to change the workplace and social culture to encourage life outside of work, the line will not go up as fast. Hope this helps.
Aiming for that _/\ line
EDIT: Actually in a weird way I respect treating your entire state like a rental car. Sorry for all the people there that will die though.
I really doubt that this is because of the 4B movement. They probably take credit for it, but I get the sense they exaggerate their own size and how many people agree with them. Also, even if the men there are really bad for the women there, on a rational level, libido often has a way of overriding rationality, so I don't think almost every woman in Cringe Korea would just completely abstain.
4b started in 2019. Fisrt graders this year where mostly born in 2017.
The number of new students starting school was widely expected to drop this year, as only 357,771 babies were born in 2017 -- which is when most of the first graders for this year were born. It marked a steep drop from the 406,243 born the year before.
https://m.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20240226050665
No causality to see here. Let's wait 2026.
