He is getting ratio

"I have no idea what that "Sith" symbol signifies. My support is simply for Palpatine over the Jedi council coup. PERIOD. "

Also at the top-right is the banderite flag with a slavic swastica

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    "I've got no idea about the ins and outs of what I'm supporting, all I know is that I support it."

    • The State Department's definition of the perfect American citizen.
    • robinn [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Mark also said that this was the first invasion of a sovereign country by a hostile foreign nation since World War 2. 'Sovereignty' is code for being white as per.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Lots of chuds identify with both the Rebel Alliance and the Galactic Empire in a bazinga salad bar sort of way. :so-true:

      • Vncredleader
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        1 year ago

        They keep using this but changing it to "European", like motherfucker you confirming Yugoslavia was not overnight a bunch of sovereign states? Or moreover suggesting that Armenia and Azerbaijan don't exist, Cyprus and Turkey dont exist, and hell Georgia wasn't invaded by Russia?

        • robinn [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          The Europe emphasis is great too because it reinforces where their priorities lie.

          • Vncredleader
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            1 year ago

            And shows that they stop considering you European if you are Slavic and are not useful to them, or are brown. Just flagrantly telling you that European means "white" not "from europe"

        • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Yugoslavia

          Half Asiatic Slav on Slav violence with some of them being scary Mohammedans

          Armenia and Azerbaijan

          Non-Mohammedan Asiatics vs Mohammedan Asiatics

          Cyprus and Turkey

          Hellenized Asiatics/Asiaticized Greeks vs Mohammedan Asiatics

          Georgia wasn’t invaded by Russia

          Half Asiatic Slavs vs full Asiatic Georgians

          This is what liberals unironically believe. At least fascists are honest in their rhetoric.

          • Vncredleader
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            1 year ago

            nah Hellenized Asiatic/Asiatic Greeks is only part of it, it is also that Greeks are Mohammedan Greeks and North African Greeks. I've heard quite a few Greeks put it as "when they want to reference columns and Thermopylae, we are white, every other moment, we are Africans and Muslims"

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      His agent probably told him if he ever wants more work he has to do this..thing. so much of this propaganda is via Hollywood.

  • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    It would take two minutes to tweet:

    I support Ukraine's defensive struggle against Russia but not fascist ideology. I was ignorant of the flag's significance, I apologise, & endeavour to do better. I'll be more careful in the future in how I represent this important cause.

    It'd be basically meaningless bullshit, but it wouldn't leave people with the (likely correct) assumption that you uncritically and unwaveringly support neo-Nazis.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      They don't want to at any point confirm that Ukraine has a nazi problem, that's why they're struggling with this. Any amount of backtracking means conceding that Ukraine has this problem.

      • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        literally all westoid msm sources before 2022

        https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ukraine+kid+nazi+camp

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      They're deliberately normalizing support for Nazis. There's no other explanation.

    • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      imagine being this obsessed over something that has absolutely no impact on your life at all.

      Then why support Ukraine then?

      • UlyssesT [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Our heroic advocates for freedom :wojak-nooo:

        Their very online unhinged fanatics :so-true:

    • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I wonder how many white liberals are willing to visit a synagogue while wearing a stepan bandera shirt and a black sun flag to show their support for Ukraine

    • Torenico [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Sounds like something a nazi would say lol

      "the nazis aren't ever going to hurt you, it's all in your head" he said, as the Gestapo officers lined me up against the wall.

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      the nazis aren’t ever going to hurt you

      Women in the US are dying and suffering from lack of access to legal abortion. And that is just the beginning of the right-wing horror.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      imagine being this obsessed over something that has absolutely no impact on your life at all. you’ve got the twitter disease, my friend. the nazis aren’t ever going to hurt you, it’s all in your head

      "Touch grass" thought terminating cliches and their consequences.

  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    He seems commited to digging a hole for himself here. Can you imagine how quickly all of this would have gone away if he just posted something like "Yikes!" in response to someone telling him he is supporting actual nazis?

    It's not as if this will seriously hurt him or anything, just that it is such an incredibly simple thing to dodge this completely that I feel like I'm watching him crack his phone screen with his finger trying to click an app. Sure, he can just get a new phone, but the mechanics of failing this badly at something so simple are almost fascinating.

    • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      I think it would be more controversial if he called out Ukrainian Nazis than if he supported them. People (mostly athletes and e-sports "athletes") have been cancelled for not supporting Ukraine enough, I can't think of anybody who has been cancelled for supporting Ukrainian Nazis.

      • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        He doesn't really have to call anyone out though. In fact, it would be weird for him to know what the flag means because Ukrainian nazis are so incredibly rare. Fact is, most of the guys in that picture probably don't know what it means or agree with it.

        • MoreAmphibians [none/use name]
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          1 year ago

          Ukrainian nazis are so incredibly rare

          Lol, they're very rare but they're just so telegenic that cameras and celebrities are just naturally drawn to them.

          He doesn’t really have to call anyone out though

          I think he does have to actually say something, he's not some internet rando he's an actual celebrity. People remember him and the thing's he's said so he can't continue to be ambiguous forever.

  • elgonzalors [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    It is really sad how white people are so forgiving of nazis if they are on the same team in some cause. Because anyone that is not a blue-eyed blonde person is seen as an infrahuman and a potential target for those scumbags, and most of the planet doesn't look like that. It is very telling how white liberals in the imperial core have normalized white supremacy so much that is invisible to them.

    • KnockYourSocksOff [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Communists are held responsible for every time a person trips over their own shoelaces under an authoritarian 1984 communist regime.

      But if you’re Nazi, they will spend every second and every resource possible to comb through every detail of your life and ancestry before coming to a conclusion of whether you’re good or bad. That, or if they’re lazy, they’ll just assume you’re innocent until proven guilty (the proof is ignored)

      Then they do a surprised wojak face whenever an African or South American leader says “hold on let’s hear Russia out.” Russia has a bunch of Nazis too, but the west can’t even put in the illusion of caring about nazism and white supremacy.

      • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Case in point, there was a skifield in NZ named after a Nazi. After he died, his obituary said that he won an Iron Cross in the "German Army" which prompted some people to ask questions and go digging.

        Turns out the dude had joined the Waffen SS as a volunteer back when the Waffen SS was an elite formation that had strong ideological requirements for joining. So rightfully outraged, people started asking the skifield operator to rename the field.

        This lead to the operator putting out an absolutely insane statement saying that just because this guy had been in the fucking SS, doesn't mean he personally did any war crimes.

        If you've clicked the link and read the article, you'll already be laughing in disbelief because this dead Nazi mother fucked served the whole war in Das Reich, one of the most infamously war-crimey units even within the SS.

        But yeah, back to your point. A communist gets tarred with all the culpability of people dying in an unpreventable naturally caused famine, but Nazis can have nice things named after them unless it can be shown that they personally shot a baby. Disgusting.

        • Zezzy [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          Dude showed off his swastika-bedazzled medallions, openly praised Hitler (including on a TV doc), and referred to the SS as heroes. So super sketchy from way before his death.

          Anyway, let's see how the locals responded:

          The name “Huber Hut” won’t be coming down, Barrett says, adding a couple of choice words for emphasis.

          people complain that Huber has been the victim of “a hit job” by the media

          “in the end, what he did for this area, is, more than anything, a lot more than what’s happened [in the war].”

          “It’s all those Jews complaining, is it?”

          :aus-delenda-est: The entire anglo world delenda est.

          • UlyssesT [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            “It’s all those Jews complaining, is it?”

            That's only cool and based if it's apartheid in Palestine :so-true:

        • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I'm not adding anything but Holy fuck Das Reich was one of the worst. If not for Dirlewanger they'd probably be considered the worst bag of nazis aside from specific guys like Heydrich

        • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          but Nazis can have nice things named after them unless it can be shown that they personally shot a baby.

          That baby was no angel!

              :speech-l: 
          

          :frothingfash:

      • MalarchoBidenism [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        But if you’re Nazi, they will spend every second and every resource possible to comb through every detail of your life and ancestry before coming to a conclusion of whether you’re good or bad.

        Reminds me of that Lithuanian (?) woman that found out her grandpa was a nazi war criminal and wrote an article like "he was a horrible anti-semite but in contrast he also fought bravely against the soviets, people do be multi-faceted like that" (there is actually no contrast between those two things :stuff:)

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          The virgin Lithuanian Nazi grandpa apologist vs the Chad "great grandpappy got beaten to death by his slaves and he had it coming" Anderson Cooper.

    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      1 year ago

      infrahuman

      is this a new one? subhuman seems like the more typical choice when describing nazi rhetoric.

      • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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        1 year ago

        I think this implies they might be human or "aryan" but only conditionally. Like how Irish people are white now but weren't always and could lose that status.

        • UlyssesT [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I think this implies they might be human or “aryan” but only conditionally. Like how Irish people are white now but weren’t always and could lose that status.

          Same deal used to apply to :anti-italian-action:

          Germans for all that nazi shit about aryans used to be called "swarthy" and considered less than white by :ukkk:

          • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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            1 year ago

            Kinda depended on the kind of German. Northern Germans could fit in, southern Germans couldn't. Mostly based on religion or class.

        • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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          1 year ago

          hmm i see. that's a useful term then. kind of wraps up the fascist use of historical subjugation to justify contemporary subjugation. and the reaction that can inspire.

  • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    I feel like people like Mark just kneejerk to "invasion bad" which is actually an understandable position on the surface. Should he educate himself more, specifically about Nazi symbols? Yes. But the title of this thread is silly because the dynamic of the Russo-Ukraine war is a lot more complex and weird than the dynamic between the Rebel Alliance and the Galatic Empire.

    • thelastaxolotl [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      But the title of this thread is silly because the dynamic of the Russo-Ukraine war is a lot more complex

      You are right, i changed the title so its less silly

    • Vncredleader
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      1 year ago

      Hasn't mark compared it the the rebels and empire? He is kneejerk but not so much cause he heard invasion, moreso cause he is a huge lib. If Biden or Obama started tweeting that the Houthis are evil he would be doing this same shit for the Saudis. Except maybe not cause he might be more discerning when it comes to Arabs.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      Rich celebrities with PR staff to make sure they don't say something stupid don't have the excuse of being kneejerk.

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    How much of this is latent Red Scare :brainworms: from the Cold War?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army

    flag previously used by the :frothingfash: Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) and the Banderite wing of the  :pigmask-off: Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), and now used by various Ukrainian nationalist :pigmask-off: organizations and parties, including :pigmask-off: UNA-UNSO,  :pigmask-off: Right Sector, :pigmask-off: Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists and others.

    Nazi nazis nazi PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD.

  • macabrett
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    1 year ago

    Scratch a liberal etc

  • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    twitter is the most toxic and unhinged place on the internet, wtf. what are those comment threads??? how are we the people that get put in some boring tenured weirdo's online extremism report, these "centrists" are fucking rabid.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      twitter is the most toxic and unhinged place on the internet, wtf

      Working as intended :my-hero:

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Sigh. This is what a lack of political education does to a MF. If you're well meaning and a lib you will end up becoming the main character of Twitter by doing something like this.