"I have no idea what that "Sith" symbol signifies. My support is simply for Palpatine over the Jedi council coup. PERIOD. "
Also at the top-right is the banderite flag with a slavic swastica
"I've got no idea about the ins and outs of what I'm supporting, all I know is that I support it."
- The State Department's definition of the perfect American citizen.
Mark also said that this was the first invasion of a sovereign country by a hostile foreign nation since World War 2. 'Sovereignty' is code for being white as per.
What the fuck lmao he got famous for starring in a Vietnam allegory
They keep using this but changing it to "European", like motherfucker you confirming Yugoslavia was not overnight a bunch of sovereign states? Or moreover suggesting that Armenia and Azerbaijan don't exist, Cyprus and Turkey dont exist, and hell Georgia wasn't invaded by Russia?
The Europe emphasis is great too because it reinforces where their priorities lie.
And shows that they stop considering you European if you are Slavic and are not useful to them, or are brown. Just flagrantly telling you that European means "white" not "from europe"
Don’t want to be annoying
Please don’t get me wrong
I’m sick of being European
just on Euro song
Yugoslavia
Half Asiatic Slav on Slav violence with some of them being scary Mohammedans
Armenia and Azerbaijan
Non-Mohammedan Asiatics vs Mohammedan Asiatics
Cyprus and Turkey
Hellenized Asiatics/Asiaticized Greeks vs Mohammedan Asiatics
Georgia wasn’t invaded by Russia
Half Asiatic Slavs vs full Asiatic Georgians
This is what liberals unironically believe. At least fascists are honest in their rhetoric.
nah Hellenized Asiatic/Asiatic Greeks is only part of it, it is also that Greeks are Mohammedan Greeks and North African Greeks. I've heard quite a few Greeks put it as "when they want to reference columns and Thermopylae, we are white, every other moment, we are Africans and Muslims"
His agent probably told him if he ever wants more work he has to do this..thing. so much of this propaganda is via Hollywood.
It would take two minutes to tweet:
I support Ukraine's defensive struggle against Russia but not fascist ideology. I was ignorant of the flag's significance, I apologise, & endeavour to do better. I'll be more careful in the future in how I represent this important cause.
It'd be basically meaningless bullshit, but it wouldn't leave people with the (likely correct) assumption that you uncritically and unwaveringly support neo-Nazis.
They don't want to at any point confirm that Ukraine has a nazi problem, that's why they're struggling with this. Any amount of backtracking means conceding that Ukraine has this problem.
Bro literally just give a half assed apology what are you doing
They're deliberately normalizing support for Nazis. There's no other explanation.
imagine being this obsessed over something that has absolutely no impact on your life at all.
Then why support Ukraine then?
I wonder how many white liberals are willing to visit a synagogue while wearing a stepan bandera shirt and a black sun flag to show their support for Ukraine
Sounds like something a nazi would say lol
"the nazis aren't ever going to hurt you, it's all in your head" he said, as the Gestapo officers lined me up against the wall.
the nazis aren’t ever going to hurt you
Women in the US are dying and suffering from lack of access to legal abortion. And that is just the beginning of the right-wing horror.
He seems commited to digging a hole for himself here. Can you imagine how quickly all of this would have gone away if he just posted something like "Yikes!" in response to someone telling him he is supporting actual nazis?
It's not as if this will seriously hurt him or anything, just that it is such an incredibly simple thing to dodge this completely that I feel like I'm watching him crack his phone screen with his finger trying to click an app. Sure, he can just get a new phone, but the mechanics of failing this badly at something so simple are almost fascinating.
I think it would be more controversial if he called out Ukrainian Nazis than if he supported them. People (mostly athletes and e-sports "athletes") have been cancelled for not supporting Ukraine enough, I can't think of anybody who has been cancelled for supporting Ukrainian Nazis.
He doesn't really have to call anyone out though. In fact, it would be weird for him to know what the flag means because Ukrainian nazis are so incredibly rare. Fact is, most of the guys in that picture probably don't know what it means or agree with it.
Ukrainian nazis are so incredibly rare
Lol, they're very rare but they're just so telegenic that cameras and celebrities are just naturally drawn to them.
He doesn’t really have to call anyone out though
I think he does have to actually say something, he's not some internet rando he's an actual celebrity. People remember him and the thing's he's said so he can't continue to be ambiguous forever.
Most of those swastikas were actually engraved on the camera lenses by Russian trolls though.
And sure, now he probably has to say something, but he could have brushed this whole thing aside from the beginning with no effort and he just didn't.
Most of those swastikas were actually engraved on the camera lenses by Russian trolls though.
:doubt:
I have to push back more here. Engraved on the camera lenses? What?
Turn on your bit detector. He's speaking in NYT-voice.
Well, this particular time you can be confident. I said it, as a bit, and the real reason for all those swastikas in the pictures is that the people wearing them/having them as tattoos/standing in front of flags with them is that those people are in fact nazis.
It is really sad how white people are so forgiving of nazis if they are on the same team in some cause. Because anyone that is not a blue-eyed blonde person is seen as an infrahuman and a potential target for those scumbags, and most of the planet doesn't look like that. It is very telling how white liberals in the imperial core have normalized white supremacy so much that is invisible to them.
Communists are held responsible for every time a person trips over their own shoelaces under an authoritarian 1984 communist regime.
But if you’re Nazi, they will spend every second and every resource possible to comb through every detail of your life and ancestry before coming to a conclusion of whether you’re good or bad. That, or if they’re lazy, they’ll just assume you’re innocent until proven guilty (the proof is ignored)
Then they do a surprised wojak face whenever an African or South American leader says “hold on let’s hear Russia out.” Russia has a bunch of Nazis too, but the west can’t even put in the illusion of caring about nazism and white supremacy.
Case in point, there was a skifield in NZ named after a Nazi. After he died, his obituary said that he won an Iron Cross in the "German Army" which prompted some people to ask questions and go digging.
Turns out the dude had joined the Waffen SS as a volunteer back when the Waffen SS was an elite formation that had strong ideological requirements for joining. So rightfully outraged, people started asking the skifield operator to rename the field.
This lead to the operator putting out an absolutely insane statement saying that just because this guy had been in the fucking SS, doesn't mean he personally did any war crimes.
If you've clicked the link and read the article, you'll already be laughing in disbelief because this dead Nazi mother fucked served the whole war in Das Reich, one of the most infamously war-crimey units even within the SS.
But yeah, back to your point. A communist gets tarred with all the culpability of people dying in an unpreventable naturally caused famine, but Nazis can have nice things named after them unless it can be shown that they personally shot a baby. Disgusting.
Dude showed off his swastika-bedazzled medallions, openly praised Hitler (including on a TV doc), and referred to the SS as heroes. So super sketchy from way before his death.
Anyway, let's see how the locals responded:
The name “Huber Hut” won’t be coming down, Barrett says, adding a couple of choice words for emphasis.
people complain that Huber has been the victim of “a hit job” by the media
“in the end, what he did for this area, is, more than anything, a lot more than what’s happened [in the war].”
“It’s all those Jews complaining, is it?”
:aus-delenda-est: The entire anglo world delenda est.
I'm not adding anything but Holy fuck Das Reich was one of the worst. If not for Dirlewanger they'd probably be considered the worst bag of nazis aside from specific guys like Heydrich
but Nazis can have nice things named after them unless it can be shown that they personally shot a baby.
That baby was no angel!
:speech-l::frothingfash:
But if you’re Nazi, they will spend every second and every resource possible to comb through every detail of your life and ancestry before coming to a conclusion of whether you’re good or bad.
Reminds me of that Lithuanian (?) woman that found out her grandpa was a nazi war criminal and wrote an article like "he was a horrible anti-semite but in contrast he also fought bravely against the soviets, people do be multi-faceted like that" (there is actually no contrast between those two things :stuff:)
The virgin Lithuanian Nazi grandpa apologist vs the Chad "great grandpappy got beaten to death by his slaves and he had it coming" Anderson Cooper.
Blue eyed? Blonde? No wonder we love the Ukraine flag! :rat-salute: :ukkkraine:
infrahuman
is this a new one? subhuman seems like the more typical choice when describing nazi rhetoric.
I think this implies they might be human or "aryan" but only conditionally. Like how Irish people are white now but weren't always and could lose that status.
hmm i see. that's a useful term then. kind of wraps up the fascist use of historical subjugation to justify contemporary subjugation. and the reaction that can inspire.
Kinda depended on the kind of German. Northern Germans could fit in, southern Germans couldn't. Mostly based on religion or class.
I feel like people like Mark just kneejerk to "invasion bad" which is actually an understandable position on the surface. Should he educate himself more, specifically about Nazi symbols? Yes. But the title of this thread is silly because the dynamic of the Russo-Ukraine war is a lot more complex and weird than the dynamic between the Rebel Alliance and the Galatic Empire.
But the title of this thread is silly because the dynamic of the Russo-Ukraine war is a lot more complex
You are right, i changed the title so its less silly
Hasn't mark compared it the the rebels and empire? He is kneejerk but not so much cause he heard invasion, moreso cause he is a huge lib. If Biden or Obama started tweeting that the Houthis are evil he would be doing this same shit for the Saudis. Except maybe not cause he might be more discerning when it comes to Arabs.
Rich celebrities with PR staff to make sure they don't say something stupid don't have the excuse of being kneejerk.
How much of this is latent Red Scare :brainworms: from the Cold War?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army
flag previously used by the :frothingfash: Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) and the Banderite wing of the :pigmask-off: Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN), and now used by various Ukrainian nationalist :pigmask-off: organizations and parties, including :pigmask-off: UNA-UNSO, :pigmask-off: Right Sector, :pigmask-off: Congress of Ukrainian Nationalists and others.
Nazi nazis nazi PERIOD PERIOD PERIOD.
twitter is the most toxic and unhinged place on the internet, wtf. what are those comment threads??? how are we the people that get put in some boring tenured weirdo's online extremism report, these "centrists" are fucking rabid.
Sigh. This is what a lack of political education does to a MF. If you're well meaning and a lib you will end up becoming the main character of Twitter by doing something like this.
