In communist china, foreign social media sites are blocked by a great firewall if they do not kowtow to government interests and espouse patriotic propoganda
Training the next generation on how to bypass terribly implemented control mechanisms.
I remember the first time I had to bypass restrictions to a pirate website... It feels like passing on the baton, but this time it's not just going to be years of stupid internet war on piracy and the way our generation fought that shit, it's going to drive a generation of kids into the ideology war. All they will talk about while they're bypassing the restrictions to get the entertainment they want is why this is happening, and millions of them will find the answer from socialists.
This will kill the creator side of TikTok though. If 1% know how to bypass this and access it, the site will die because creators will stop posting.
A pain for the people profiting currently on its success for sure. But when nobody is making any money on a service you get some of the most interesting and creative actual original content around. 1% is a vast underestimate of the Zoomers that will continue using it though, literally all of them will. Literally all of us continued to use torrents and limewire when those were getting restricted, word and methods spread around the younger generation extremely fast.
And who cares if everyone over 21 stops using it is what they'll think.
Good luck doing that on a phone. How old are you that you think this way?
It is going to be made illegal to host TikTok servers in the US on November 12. Accessing it would require a VPN set up, and then eventually companies will stop hosting ads on TikTok, it may even be illegal to do so for a US company. TikTok will be unable to provide any new features or updates, users will bleed off and no new users will be able to join or download the app.
View numbers and engagement for creators will drop sharply and then slowly bleed for the next year if TikTok does not close down by then.
TikTok is suing the government and Trump's supreme court will uphold his decision to ban them. Eventually with 70% of their users being US, it will be unprofitable and impossible to maintain the service. Creators will leave and try to migrate their audiences, viewers will leave, and the app will die.
"Who cares if everyone over 21 stops using it is what they’ll think."
It does not matter if a 16 year old child "doesn't care" about older people leaving the app. They won't be able to access it, and if they go through every hoop to run a UK VPN on their phone to access it (less than 1% of people will do this), there won't be new content and they will stop viewing.
You're vastly underestimating kids ability to sideload and run jacked apps. They already fucking know how to do it because they're all continuing to run Fortnite on their Apple phones despite it being removed. Most kids I know already know how to run a free vpn.
I really think you're strongly underestimating them. You're absolutely right about the profit driven creators dropping off, but I don't think they're just going to shut the app down, I think Tencent will accept running it at a loss for a few years to see how the situation evolves, they run tonnes of products at a loss. The alternative (reels) will obviously still blast off with users, for-profit content and take center stage but I think tiktok will keep ticking along. there'll be complete staff cutbacks in the US though, a shame as they were planning to expand to 10k US based employees before this kicked off.
Yes, 1% of the 100 million users might be able to do that, but if 1% are able to access the app (and those certainly aren't the creators doing it) then it will die.
We can just wait and see in a month, but it's obvious what will happen if things go forward like they are set to.
Explain how the president has a bullshit power to do whatever they want in the name of national security and that this is blatantly a play to keep Facebook in power as they are launching their own TikTok
I wonder if this is to build up the cold war narrative with China, or literally just boomers wanting to show the rest of us they still have all the political power.
The capital class, CIA etc want a new cold war with China. They are leveraging boomers and others to help that come about.
I have a harder time understanding why there's so much anti-China BS on reddit and even IRL among the under-40 crowd.
This is what makes the tiktok ban so funny. What do you think happens to that data when it's sold to US companies? They sell it to the Chinese! Tiktok is a threat to the US because all the money is going to Chinese companies with no US middleman.
If you're going to have a TikToker, make sure you get them spayed and neutered
10 years from now, Q cultists will self-immolate in protest for the rights of American companies to have our data
I mean they're literally doing that right now looks at entire western half of the continent
Yeah ok and thats an argument against using it? Or for getting it and driving them out.
i’m not against using tiktok, i just wanted to add that there’s tons of open, unapologetic extreme alt-right for anyone who doesn’t have an account or doesn’t know. posting leftist ideas in short easy to watch videos for ✨the youth✨ is still a good idea.
Yeah sorry, it is true. I was being too adversarial.
Be careful. Too many kids on tiktok. Ik it's just a bit but like still.
It honestly sucks more with WeChat, tons of Chinese people use it as a platform for public participation, plus it has free calling and video chat so they don't have to pay roaming/long distance.
Yeah it could be really harmful for those keeping tabs on their elderly parents in the mainland, especially since most Chinese businesses no longer sell those long distance call cards after WeChat rose to power.
@ScreamoBMO, @Beatnik , @AlfredNobel, @TransComrade69 , @Awoo - Grow our posting army with tiktok recruitment. You're all beauties.
This is a good idea, but TikTok users won't easily transition to a dark mode posting forum.
Also, you do not want the average age here to drop that drastically.
Per Vox, WeChat will be banned on Sunday and TikTok on November 12th.
Damn, if WeChat is banned then Trump has lost the shitty racist Chinese immigrant vote here in my town.
I wonder if the EU will follow suit with this pointless Cold War nonsense
Nah don't think so, Germany has too big of a stake in China economically to do something stupid like this
The US has also been hammering home the point for six months that the whole country is a literal death cult, so there's that, too.
you also have a CHEETO IN THE WHITE HOUSE who is in charge and wants to do this shit instead of the queen of not doing anything
Anti-China rhetoric has very nearly passed the Trump hate on the Reddit threads for this, it's kinda incredible how easily people swallow this stuff even when their most hated person is doing it
it’s kinda incredible how easily people swallow this stuff even when their most hated person is doing it
"white moderate" demographic rankings:
white liberal > BIPOC liberal > white conservative > Asian
There's really no contradiction, white modlibs are "okay" with Black people because they pose very little threat to white supremacy. (as long as the Black people don't actually demand the right to live, or reparations for stolen resources, etc)
They absolutely loathe China because they pose the largest threat to white supremacy.
Biden wins in a landslide by promising to unban both TikTok and mango juul pods.
