Me, a cool guy with sunglasses and a tribal tattoo: "fellas, isn't it funny when your girlfriend is running around shopping, eating hot chips, lying, and owning all the means of production?"
An incel: "No, this is an unacceptable state of affairs"
All male except female left arm
Cishet guy who can't stop worrying that touching himself makes him gay, so he gave one of his arms its own gender identity
great britain
:yea:
Average masc guy, but one hand has really pretty nails and a tennis bracelet.
My left arm is female because it's not dominate and it wipes my ass.
hatandwatch marked safe from the gays
i know these people are irrelevant dinosaurs, the losers of the losers, but it really is bizarre to imagine that they can champion the exact same bigotry as the most nakedly reactionary of the bourgeoisie and still feel like they're rebelling.
Pete wants to live their life
Dave doesn't want Pete to live their life
Why is Pete being so divisive?
communism is an elite ideology because corporations sell che guevara shirts
I’m not gonna read the article but this rings of mid-20th century “homosexuality as bourgeois decadence”
i think it's even more baby brained than that. yeah there's old bureaucrats in places like china and india who genuinely think that homosexuality is bourgeois decadence. but the argument being made is that since american corporations can make use of LGBT symbols in their brands, therefore, the gay agenda is a reactionary agenda meant to exert control.
leftism 101 always include assertions of capitalism's fluidity and capability to domesticate, wield, and consume even the symbols of its enemies. the che guevara shirt is the most cliché example ever of that. fact is that american culture is changing and changing fast. as lgbt is becoming more and more accepted it becomes less of a lightning rod against all sorts of power struggles. not just limited to capitalism in and of itself.
it's not the gay agenda, it's the fact that american capitalism's main form of social discipline is consumption and it can sell anything and everything to people as soon as they are willing to buy them.
as lgbt is becoming more and more accepted it becomes less of a lightning rod against all sorts of power struggles. not just limited to capitalism in and of itself.
That is true, yet the "Christian" character of the reaction in the US means that it will be a useful canary to see who is fine with allying themselves with that reaction that tries to claw in parts back to pre industrial times of white supremacy.
i wonder what will be the next gay panic once our generation gets old and our parents are raging against trans people from beyond the grave. first as history and then as farce, and farce again. you know the jazz.
since american corporations can make use of LGBT symbols in their brands, therefore, the gay agenda is a reactionary agenda meant to exert control
goddamn this is so just missing the forest for the trees. What is wrong with these people? As if corpos are the only ones "pushing" for LGBTQ acceptance
"Archeologists in 1000 years will think you're a man"
-guy who thinks women's bones are skirt shaped
What's great is that you don't actually know, archeologists who find bones will assign gender and it will always be "correct" because they can't ask.
If you've given birth it's very likely that they'll be right, but outside of that there are always people outside the gender norms of bodies.
Yeah, but you can also be a man and have given birth at some point. But all they know is that you gave birth.
All I'm saying is that biological indicators don't account for the actual social structures of gender. But if you don't acknowledge that, you can just claim anything and there's not really wanting stopping you unless there's written information around.
Now I could be wrong, but given the patriarchal nature of human societies it's unlikely for someone capable of birthing ti be acknowledged as a man, so it does make sense to treat the remains as a woman as that would likely be how they were treated and and grave goods or treatment of the body after death would follow the ones for women. But yeah, it ultimately is impossible to know someone's gender identity unless they say it themselves.
It does happen. There are a bunch of cultures where your sex organs aren't determinative of your gender role. And there are cultures where they are, and people say fuck that and live a different gender role anyway. A fair number of European soldiers, sailors, doctors, and so forth were found to have an unexpected set of sex organs during autopsy. There have always and everywhere been people we would consider trans, and some cultures have and have had accepted social roles and gender roles for those people. And in cultures that haven't people transgressed against cultural norms when they could to try to live a more authentic life.
Which is kinda my point, that even if you can make assumptions like that, and for the most part be right, you can't then take those assumptions and claim to understand the identity of the person.
One think we do know for sure is that people are very capable of having conflicting assigned and realized genders. And that there is some form of this that exists in many societies dating back through all recorded history.
So looking at old bones and being able to say "this person gave birth, therefore this society had traditional Western gender norms and was patriarchal" is dumb. And while I'm sure most archaeologists wouldn't make assumptions like that, many uninformed traditionalists do.
Your last paragraph I disagree with, because basically every non hunter gatherer human society has some gender roles, and birthing people are generally assigned to what we'd call a woman. So they're not saying "this person have birth, therefore gender" "this society had gender and this person have birth, therefore they had a feminine gender role in their society" which is safe bet and does describe part of someone's social identity.
And it's only recently archeologists have started considering describing someone's assigned versus personal gender. Obviously archeologists that work with groups like the Filipino aboriginal people that had multiple gender identities are more aware of this, but most archeologists work on long dead groups they can assert their gender ideas over, or groups with a similar binary of gender. Lots of archeologists are not queer or too attuned to queer theory, although some definitely are and it's changing. Just getting some of them to acknowledge that there's a history of plucking history away from different peoples was an uphill battle.
I guess I was too generous to archaeologists, good that they're at least starting to consider this stuff now.
There are some very good archeologists, and it's a field that breaks some brainworms about history, economics, and race, but at the end of the day it's still a reflection of the culture it comes from. Plus, taxing outdoor work for low pay with a high academic requirement means most of the people who get into it come from privilege, although not all.
This is part of why many archeologists will take a Marxist feminist interpretation of the evidence when there are multiple plausible interpretations
Word. It's barely worth readin archeology from archeologists who aren't at minimum marxists.
Non-shithead archeologists won't assign gender. They'll try to determine sex while recognizing that that cannot be reliably done for a significant percentage of any population and that even features that correlate with sex aren't conclusive about what soft tissue anatomy a person had, and then they'll use that qualified determination of sex to make inferences about gender roles in that culture based on other available evidence like grave goods, written works, depictions of day to day life, etc. And if they're not grant writing they might even admit that a lot of it is just unknowable because the people who could have told us died long ago and there's only so much you can infer from bones and artifacts before you start speculating.
archaeologists often do try to measure the shape of the pelvis to determine gender, but that frequently doesn't work because bones don't last that long, or animals scavenged them, or any number of types of damage can occur in thousands of years
and you know what archaeologists use when they run into the common problem of the bones themselves not giving any clues? they turn to social clues like how certain genders would have been buried, or their clothes/jewelry, or things like the person's name if they can find it.
People who say this are also suggesting archaeologists, who are in a social science, would be unaware of things like transgender people or simply wouldn't care to investigate. Anthropologists are currently aware that gender is a spectrum, so why would they stop knowing that in a thousand years?
Also, what does it matter what hypothetical archaeologists in the future think? They're not the ones assaulting currently existing women in bathrooms about perceived slights to gender norms
Yeah that too. transphobes telling me I'll be misgendered 1000 years from now when I get misgendered daily, currently
Real archeologists "we have no fucking idea what's going on here because everyone who could have explained the gender roles of this society died 3000 years ago and the only writings they left behind were cook books and fart jokes"
It really sucks that one of the only other countries I could visit and speak the native language comfortability is fucking England.
Not getting asylum, if you have a degree and can teach, you can pick up the language in-country
If you have a degree, you can become an English teacher. They shitcanned the entire after-school English teaching industry a while back so you'll have to do the 8-5 at a public school. You'll be glad you're a native English speaker because otherwise you're not allowed to teach. As a Class B foreigner, you won't be eligible for a green card. You can work there for a couple of years until you get tired of it.
China is really hard for westerners to adapt to. SO much is alien and a lot of people have a really difficult time with it. If you can adapt and become a long-termer, all of the other foreigners will think you're a weirdo. People back home will, too. Then you start getting the labels: panda hugger, sexpat, on the run from child support payments, etc.
China is really hard for westerners to adapt to. SO much is alien and a lot of people have a really difficult time with it.
Do you have particular examples? I'm not sure what this is supposed to mean.
Everything is different. You're suddenly illiterate. There's no Amazon, only the alien Taobao. The school you teach at isn't at all like American schools and you're being forced into participating in crushing kids' spirits. Your ping times suck. You're 13 hours behind America so it's impossible to keep a social schedule with your friends. The food is weird, there's no moo goo gai pan or General Tso's chicken, only an endless parade of off-tasting brown dishes. You saw one of the cooks sneeze into the cooking pot and when you went over there and tried to insist that it be poured out, everyone laughed at you. The other foreigners, your only source of comfort, are a bunch of weirdos who are either panda huggers, sexpats, or on the run from child support payments. That one white guy who speaks Chinese makes you feel like shit whenever he comes around without even meaning to by his effortless, fluent banter with the staff and kids. After a honeymoon period where everything was awesome because it was new, it's really grating on you and you are thinking about just taking off in the middle of the night and flying home where things make sense. One day, that one white guy casually remarks, "Starting to get to you, eh? I bet you don't last long just like all the others," which just makes it worse.
I mean half of this just sounds like being in a foreign country normally. Also I'm pretty sure everybody here who went to China would count as a "Panda Hugger", since that's essentially just an insult directed at people who think that the Communist Party of China is good.
That's the curse of having swamp monster speak as a first language.
It's never too late to learn another language comrade, if this motivates you
I've been wanting too, it's just hard to keep up the motivation for the months/years it takes to learn. I'm sure I'll get there eventually though
I've only visited both once but they seem like very nice places. Obviously I got a very touristy experience, but Dublin and Glasgow were both cool.
Yes, the famously anti bourgeois project of...the Tories. Yeah ok.
Yeah we have some of these fucking clowns where I live too. I've read some of their papers because I was thinking of crashing one of their reading groups.
Shit is so wild. Like they start from the position that they hate trans people (of course they never say that explicitly) and then have to construct this elaborate house of cards to justify why that doesn't actually make them bad socialists but good socialists actually.
Like it's a joke, but simultaneously makes me feel so :doomjak: that communists and socialists can be like this and successfully convince themselves that this is punching up.
I read some of the article before I realized it was about the length of the Bible, you shouldn't, the most interesting part was this person's shockingly bad understanding of materialist dialectics.
All British Communist parties are 35 GCHQ agents huddled together in a giant overcoat, depressingly.
"Proletarian Writers" :suswcc: i think you'll find this actually says "Feckless Cowards"
yeah cause it's definitely the bourgeoisie that value diversity :wut:
looks at bottom center left So if I skip leg day I will become gender fluid?
