Inside the US? Vermont.
That north east section of the US has strategic value for several reasons. It has more left voting gun owners than right voting gun owners which is a start. You can cut the north east of the US off and make it a new country. It's strategically in the right place for the coming years of climate change.
These three factors combined make it, in my opinion, the starting point for actually creating any region that doesn't suck. Turn Vermont/Massachusetts/New Hampshire/Maine into a place, grab Conneticut and Rhode Island too if possible.
The fact Vermont is literally the only place where more gun owners vote dem than republican makes it the most viable place to actually survive, the climate positioning and peninsula up in the corner of the US are just a bonus.
Please, as a survivor of the ocean state, I beg you not to take a Rhode island with you, but rather use it as a nuclear testing site.
Could work.
This all really depends on Canada too. Who knows how they'd react to that shit going on just over their border... Or whether they'd try a landgrab for "securing peace" in the ensuing chaos, perhaps with foreign support.
If balkanisation of the US actually happens it'll be a multi-country proxy war with global involvement. The world also isn't going to sit around with all those nukes at risk.
I've been to both sides and the American side is really shit why would they want it? Lmao
Agreed. New Enlgand is where you want to be. There's also this strange thing in rural areas that people, regardless of their ideology and identity, tend to take care of one another. It's like every conservative with a non-cis-het-white neighbor/friend just believes that they only know "the good ones".
It's when you are an outsider of minority identity that things get rough.
Flee to Portland, ME.
Adding NYC to that is a sure way to create military conflict. And southern New England will lose.
Oh god whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy my old roommate was from Portland ME. Now he works for a defense think tank
You'd look in that direction after securing up into the corner I think. You need to secure the space behind and up there beforehand in order to prevent the requirement to defend on multiple sides. NYC would obviously be a target of value to acquire but I think it'll be an absolute hot-mess in the fallout of something like this as supplies, food and everything they need is presumably shipped in? I suspect food and water there will run out quick if things destabilise. You also probably wouldn't want to "conquer" it with force, they'd have to WANT to join because otherwise street to street fighting in a place like that would just be an endless hell that lasts years.
It won't balkanize. Bougie leaders are totally insulated from any and all ill effects of reactionary politics. It doesn't matter how much you suffer; they never will. They only benefit from the status quo, so they will keep it that way. Forever.
It is untenable. And the bourgeoise will side with the reactionaries in quashing social unrest harder than ever before, with the full tacit consent of any and all entities, including the media. They will do this in the interest of maintaining the status quo.
Probably the Midwest considering that we have oceans of fresh water and still some arable land, which is gonna be kinda important during our ecological crisis
Appalachia is gonna be alright too if you can't make it that far north. Mountains make it defensible and places like Asheville are pretty leftist. We've got the parkway and a bunch of freshwater rivers and lakes too.
Appalachia is gonna be alright too
Maybe if you're white. I can't imagine Appalachia being particularly welcoming of Black and Hispanic southerners moving in for refuge, for example.
It's a big place, Cherokee still has a big reservation and as long as you stay in the Buncombe area, there's enough comrades to hold off the tide of racists that live outside the city limits. So far we've had thousands turn out for BLM and only a couple dozen counter protestors that all got scared when we showed up with guns lol.
That's good to hear. Surprising to me as an outsider, but a more pleasant surprise.
People definitely assign a lot of racism to us down here, but it's really not the case for the most part. Asheville just voted for reparations for black folks displaced by gentrification, it's really watered down, but shows where the popular opinion lies here.
Don't get me wrong, we still have a lot of reactionary presence in the suburbs and farmlands, but they aren't nearly as active and vocal as the leftist working class in the service industry.
nuke the adrenochrome factories completely crippling the republican party
probably somewhere along the northern border as climate change continues to heat things up
I feel like living in florida i'd be pretty fucked if the us balkanizes, at least i'm close to cuba if i need to flee?
90 miles from key west, invest in a boat or a really good inner tube?
Apparently im that plus a few hundred miles from cuba, but im sure that in a balkanizing scenario, i could just steal a boat from rich people who dont live in fl? ofc, i dont know how to use a boat, so thats a problem.
Assuming, of course, that Key West hasn't been swallowed by the rising ocean by this point.
I'm surprised to see New England, especially northern parts, becoming far less suitable compared to places in the midwest.
Come to Asheville! The rents are skyrocketing so bring your Maoist friends.
Yeah, we're gonna transition from a temperate deciduous rainforest to a regular rainforest.
