• Stoatmilk [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    They have such an easy path to success here, and there is no company other than Nintendo I would trust to fuck it up completely for no reason

    • booty [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      ez skip tbh. nintendo has to have a massive fuckup after every massive success due to an ancient curse dating back to the 1890s.

        • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          N64 and GameCube, being too cockpit with 3rd parties when they had an effective monopoly

        • Venus [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          They haven't managed to make hanafuda decks popular overseas. Huge L

    • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      and miss out on re-selling their ancient games for 10.99 to people who already own them on 5 different systems?

      • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        to be fair most, if not all nintendo consoles (even their handhelds for the most part) have been physically backwards compatible with the previous generation.

        Wii could play Gamecube, Wii U could play Wii/GC, etc. Switch not having a disc drive had to be the main reason behind Switch not at least being BC with Wii games.

        • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          to be fair most, if not all nintendo consoles (even their handhelds for the most part) have been physically backwards compatible with the previous generation.

          I feel like Wii and WiiU being backwards compatible are exceptions to the rule for their home consoles.

          You're right about the Gameboy and DS families, though!

          • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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            1 year ago

            Yeah none of they're systems were backward compatible, since they were all on proprietary carts. The Wii was the first to have backwards compatibility with GC because, and only its oringinal model

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Idk. I feel like that would be an extremly weird call after the effort they've put into making such a massive library on Switch. I have my doubts they'll fuck this one up this time. But I guess it IS Nintendo.

        • Beaver [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Not having backwards compatibility is the one thing that would make me reconsider buying the Switch 2. I still have a huge backlog of Switch 1 game I want to play. Sony and M$ understand that new consoles have anemic launch libraries, and so you need backwards compatibility so that people will unhook their old console from the TV and plug in the new shiny.

  • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    if they don't make it backwards compatible they're fumbling the bag to an insane degree. you have a console that is basically understood as having an insane amount of titles and variety, you would have to be a fucking insane market minmax guy to not understand that "everything on the switch but better and more" is the way to go if you want to kickstart the money printer again. at least, I'd be pissed, so consider that

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Two sources VGC spoke to suggested that the console could launch with an LCD screen, instead of the more premium OLED, in order to bring down costs, especially considering the increased storage needed for higher fidelity games. The current Switch comes with just 32GB of internal memory, while many current-gen PlayStation and Xbox games are over 100GB.

    You can get android smartphones with 120Hz 1080p OLED displays and 128GB of internal storage for 150 US dollars. Come on Nintendo.

    Also the rumoured new Nvidia Tegra T239 chipset's GPU is capable of 4TFLOPS. The latest top of the line android phones already have ARM GPUs such as the Adreno 740, capable of between 3.5-3.7TFLOPS, and have been out for six months. By next year, the latest smartphones will be more powerful than the new Nintendo switch successor.

    • Awoo [she/her]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      By next year, the latest smartphones will be more powerful than the new Nintendo switch successor.

      porky-happy Yes but will they have Mario, Zelda or Smash on them?

      • save_vs_death [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        nintendo consoles have always been underpowered gimmick machines (excepting the Gamecube which undersold and gave nintendo cold feet), don't expect it to change soon

        • daisy
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          1 year ago

          nintendo consoles have always been underpowered gimmick machines

          ...with lots of fun games, and a lower console price tag than the competitors.

          I think you're missing the forest for the trees.

          • save_vs_death [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            i'm not missing it; i own a switch, the games are fun, i'm tired of people asking that they make a PS graphics competitor every generation, they never will, move on, that's the sentiment i'm replying to

            yeah, they are the only platform with mario, zelda, or smash, that's the point

          • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            I mean, I love the Steam Deck, but it's going to struggle to run any new, slightly demanding game at 30 FPS. I wouldn't put that in the same category as PS5, Xbox or PC no matter what marketing tricks Valve does.

        • Awoo [she/her]
          hexagon
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          1 year ago

          I agree and don't expect a change. I am however tentatively optimistic that this might have a major VR component, particularly because of this Nov 2022 patent they filed https://image-ppubs.uspto.gov/dirsearch-public/print/downloadPdf/20220362667

    • daisy
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      1 year ago

      This is actually reassuring to me. OLED is garbage planned-obsolescence technology, what with that never-solved burn-in problem. IPS may annoy techbros but it is far superior in terms of longevity.

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        Main thing with OLED is battery life on portable devices, as displaying dark colours takes much less energy on OLED. Burn in has also improved quite a lot with the new technologies such as WOLED, it's not 2015 anymore where your touchscreen keyboard or game HUD is going to burn in on the screen.

        IPS longevity concerns can also be an issue with things like backlight failure. And for all the disadvantages IPS has in a battery powered portable form factor, it's not worth the advantages it provides. There's a reason practically all smartphones use OLED screens now.

        I still would not use an OLED screen as a computer monitor though. That's a recipe for disaster in terms of burn in.

        • daisy
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          1 year ago

          I've had a lot of gadgets with IPS screens for the past decade+, and not a single one has ever had a backlight failure. I've had one gadget with an OLED screen, a midrange Samsung phone from 2021, and it had burn-in within a month despite very moderate usage and endless assurances from people on various forums that OLED burn-in wasn't a problem anymore. I'm sticking with IPS until micro LED is as cheap and common as IPS. I won't be suckered again.

    • Venus [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      You can get android smartphones with 120Hz 1080p OLED displays and 128GB of internal storage for 150 US dollars

      Uh, from what planet? My current phone cost more than that and is nowhere near those specs

      • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        If you're prepared to get an entry level processor and forego 5G, you can usually pick up one from one of the Chinese brands, like Xiaomi, Oppo/realme, Poco and ZTE. Sometimes you might have to sacrifice 120hz for 90hz though.

        https://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_12_4g-12188.php

        https://www.gsmarena.com/realme_10-ampp-11950.php

      • mittens [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        It's pushing it at 150 smackaroonies but the POCO X5 does have a 120hz AMOLED with 128GB at 230 USD, granted it has a snapdragon 695, so it's not going to max out genshin impact or whatever

    • ElGosso [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I tried to come up with a joke about topping and bottoming but I failed

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I mean, if you're running the network to a medium-to-large sized company, you need several switches.

  • Grownbravy [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    So it'll be like, a weird upgrade to their hardware that's not up to a full generation?

    • FuckYourselfEndless [ze/hir]
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      1 year ago

      Could maybe be slightly more powerful than the Steam Deck, at best. There's not a lot of room to make something actually portable and also more powerful at the moment until there's a shift in either battery technology or some other ways to extend or save power. Maybe switching to, like, monitor glasses or swappable batteries could help.

  • Starlet [she/her, it/its]
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    1 year ago

    It's odd that they've released TOTK, Pikmin 4, and soon SMB Wonder right at the end of the Switch's lifespan. You'd think Mario, at least, would be going on the new console. Maybe that untitled Princess Peach game is going to be their launch title?

    • makotech222 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      They always do that, then port the old games to the new console to double dip

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      It's not unheard of. Skyward Sword released about a year before the Wii U's release. Twilight Princess released so late into the GameCube's life that the Wii version came out first.

  • doublepepperoni [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Let's see if they're going to give it as brilliant a name as they gave the WiiU and completely kill the whole thing in its cradle

    I also remember someone somewhere saying that Denuvo had mentioned some kind of proprietary anti-emulation technology. I wonder who would be interested in that

    • FuckYourselfEndless [ze/hir]
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      1 year ago

      Nintendo Swap. Allows you to swap between a range of different joycon-like controllers with a large array of different inputs such as dials, track balls, buttons, sticks, toggles, sensors, and more.

    • Comp4 [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Me wanting a new F-Zero crying in the corner BibleThump

      • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I’d love to see a new F-Zero. My problem is that they released a new Mario Kart for literally every console from the SNES onwards, including the goddamn WiiU, then when the Switch came out they were like “we have Mario Kart at home”

        • Comp4 [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          I think Mario Kart is great. I just really fucking loved F-Zero GX and I would do unspeakable things for a new F-Zero of the same quality.

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        That's one of the big reasons I'm not that interested in a Nintendo system. They're games seem to stay full price forever. I'm used to waiting for prices to come down plus sales before i buy a game

        • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          Yeah, I bought BotW for a friend last Christmas since it was finally 50% off, like 5 years after release.

          • Beaver [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            You could do worse than just playing 5+ year old nintendo games.

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        1 year ago

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  • bigmonkey [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Will it compete with steam deck on hardware, versatility or value? doubt

    • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Versatility? lol, of course not, all it can do is play games licensed by Nintendo. Probably not on the other points either.

    • Orcocracy [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Probably yes, but not in the way you're thinking. Hardware portability, versatile enough for non-computery people to use, and the value that can be had from borrowing and swapping physical media are all things the Steam Deck is not very good at in comparison to the Switch 1. They're both fine little gadgets, but they have quite different strengths.

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    $20 that it doesn't play the previous Switch games meaning even more money to get them "upgraded" in true Nintendo fashion

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      In no way am I defending Nintendo, but Wii U did play Wii games out of the box and even supported wii controllers (iirc) so it's not entirely impossible.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        You are correct. Based on past consoles like the DS, supporting the last generation is the most likely scenario.