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Thirty minutes into the presidential debate, I’ve heard from three veteran Democratic presidential campaign officials, and all of them had the same reaction to President Biden’s performance: This is a disaster. It wasn’t just that Biden wasn’t landing a glove on Donald Trump on the economy, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, Covid, taxes, temperament or anything else that was coming up in the questioning. It was Biden’s voice (low and weak) and facial expression (frozen, mouth open, few smirks) with answers that were rambling or vague or ended in confusion. He gave remarks about health care and abortion that didn’t make a strong point, giving Trump a chance to say lines like, “I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don’t think he knows what he said, either.” One of the Democrats said Biden looked scared. Another said it was an “emperor has no clothes” performance so far. The third said of the performance overall, “Don’t ask.” Trump lied repeatedly during the debate about the pandemic, immigration and Roe v. Wade, but Biden didn’t hold him accountable for those lies in a memorable way. At times, Trump attacked Biden, but the president didn’t fight back. Frank Luntz, a veteran focus group moderator who was holding a live focus group during the debate, wrote of their reactions so far: “The group is so bothered by Biden’s voice and appearance. But they’re getting madder and madder with Trump’s personal attacks.” “If Trump talks less,” Luntz said, “he wins. If Biden doesn’t stop talking, he loses.”

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    5 months ago

    All the Democrat fucks who thought Biden was going to save them, who went all in on genocide because Biden was going to save them, who have been screaming at everyone and everyone that Biden is going to save them, this was their god. This was their champion. Fucking pathetic.

    • TechnoUnionTypeBeat [he/him, they/them]
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      5 months ago

      Been thinking the same as I watch everyone around me having aneurysms about the debate

      This was your god? This was Dark Brandon the Chosen One? This is the best you got?

      • JayTwo [any]
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        5 months ago

        Dark Brandon was originally funny because the actual Biden was completely spineless compared to the reactionary strawman of him.
        The entire joke was that he's a human bowl of oatmeal and therefore completely unable to even approach this type of behavior, unless it was something about Anita Hill or school busing.
        Then the dems appropriated it and ruined it.

    • Black_Mald_Futures [any]
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      5 months ago

      we saw his brain melting out of his fucking ears 4 years ago and it's been 4 years of gaslighting from maybe-later-kiddo

  • Assian_Candor [comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

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    First few pages of "reader picks"

    Looks like the libs just realized they're cooked lol

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      5 months ago

      It's incredible that this fucking disaster is what it took for them to finally realize their emperor has been running around with his dick out babbling for years.

      • HelltakerHomosexual [she/her, comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        these people pretend they know anything about whats going on, thats why. libs know either a tiny bit or absolutely nothing about whats going on in any way.

        • PKMKII [none/use name]
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          5 months ago

          I heard a great term to describe these types recently: midwits. They mistake their ability to not fall for the most obvious bullshit as a sign they’ve got a deep understanding of the situation.

      • BeamBrain [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        And none of them will have even a moment's reflection or consider that maybe they should start listening to the people who've been warning them about this the whole time.

          • BeamBrain [he/him]
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            5 months ago

            Dems' shitty candidate loses? They blame us and say we're just sabotaging them, so they don't need to listen to us.

            Dems' shitty candidate wins? They say it's proof that triangulation works and that they don't need to listen to us.

            Can't fucking win with these people.

    • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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      5 months ago

      "If Biden is a patriot..." Christ Almighty, imagine being so cooked that you think the elites think in the same stupid way that they have convinced the plebs to.

      • riseuppikmin [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        If a democratic voter tries or succeeds in [] Biden "to save democracy" I will laugh myself to drath

  • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    this shit was so bad it made me feel like an impostor for teaching English while being completely unable to understand what the fuck either of them were saying

    but then I saw that all the native speakers in the chat were equally confused, so I think I'm good for now

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    I didn’t watch it out of self-care, anyone with more stomach want to give some of the sundowning highlights?

    • micnd90 [he/him,any]
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      5 months ago

      They had a rule where each person were given 3-4 minutes to answer question while the other person had their mic off to prevent interruption. This prove to be disastrous, Biden cannot talk coherently for 3-4 minutes straight without falling apart, meander, and losing his train of thought. Biden often finished early, then the mods said "Mr. Biden you have 2 minutes left", started to freestyle disastrously and then time's out and got cut off. Trump deflected every question the moderators asked, and talk about something else entirely, lies through his teeth, but he is coherent within the 3-4 minutes time, finished on-time, mods don't have the balls to ask follow up question, and changed the topic. It's a disasterclass both ways for the planet, but horserace wise it is also a calamity for Dems.

    • hotcouchguy [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      You ever visit a dying grandparent who keeps miataking you for other relatives who are all 30 years older than you?

    • buh [she/her]
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      5 months ago

      for every question Trump instead deflected with some conservative talking point, frequently the "border crisis" even though biden is just as racist as trump was when it came to immigration. biden would rebut with a vague, breathless "actually everything is great and americans are happy, mack" even though everything is horrible and americans aren't happy. in the beginning they fought over who is more zionist. at some point in the middle the moderators asked directly about what each would do about drug addiction; trump said he bought "certain dogs" to sniff out drugs, biden said we have machine for that, jack.

    • KoboldKomrade [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      The only positive thing was every frame of Biden is a new facial expression.

    • Roonerino
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      2 months ago

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      • Nimue [comrade/them]
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        5 months ago

        they each said they could out golf each other

        I'm glad they had the courage to tackle such an important issue.

        • Black_Mald_Futures [any]
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          5 months ago

          god, can you even have a president who isn't the best golfer? not in my conntry

        • JayTwo [any]
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          5 months ago

          What better way to convince voters they're not out of touch elitists than squabble about golf during a presidential debate.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Fucker probably got his lungs fried by Covid. Oh wait Covid is over can't be that.

    • conditional_soup@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      Honest to goodness, I can believe he is sick and that probably had a serious impact on his performance, but I don't think it matters. Nobody came away saying "oh, I guess Biden had a cold", everyone came away with the distinct impression that we'd be better off having ChatGPT be the democratic candidate.

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      5 months ago

      I mean, it certainly sounded like he had phlegm but, like his stutter, it doesn't seem that relevant.

  • ryepunk [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Hilary Clinton's agents have struck. They swapped out the potion of focus and clarity, with a drowsy and befuddled potion.

    It's her time everyone. hillgasm

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    maybe-later-honey Wow, look at these Russo-Chinese trollbots, making a big deal about Biden's stutter.

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Man who everyone that isn't a Dem shill know was sundowning 4-5 years ago had a debate performance of a man who is well into his sundowning erasurprised-pika

    I wish I could bet paid hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions to sit around and not make the most basic observations.

    • Black_Mald_Futures [any]
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      5 months ago

      I wish I could bet paid hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions to sit around and not make the most basic observations.

      this is what capitalism is keeping from us

  • Barabas [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Too bad that nothing could have warned them of this, just a sudden mental decline over the last couple of days out of nowhere.

  • Feinsteins_Ghost [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Shoulda done it early to mid day. The geezer the Democrats have hung their last hope on is fucking sundowning.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      5 months ago

      Right? All the fucking Democrat deadender fascist scum who have been screaming that we have to vote for Biden thought this walking corpse was going to save them.

  • sisatici [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Reminder: he refused to take drug test before debate. Even the wonders of modern medicine could not make him appear as an alive human

    • Aphelion@lemm.ee
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      5 months ago

      To me it looked like he was anxious and should have been on a beta blocker, which is pretty standard for people who have to speak in front of large audiences.

      I wonder if all the conservative questions about what performance enhancement he would be using caused his campaign to get scared and ditch whatever planned regiment they were going to have him take.

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    Has the democratic party been infiltrated by tankie russian bots? Where is this defeatism coming from? The chinese?