trump's going to kill a bunch of people for this, probably ones you know, maybe you, consider toning down the epic poasting

      • bumpusoot [any]
        ·
        4 months ago

        executed at Gitmo under the Trump dictatorship for being mean to him online

        It really, really won't. There are many good reasons to maintain opsec, thinking this is a likely outcome is not one.

        • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
          ·
          4 months ago

          44 months for talking about the need to rise up against the Jan 6ers.

          https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndfl/pr/tallahassee-man-sentenced-forty-four-months-federal-prison-communicating-threats

    • Wertheimer [any]
      ·
      4 months ago

      Comrades in San Diego just got 2-5 for counterprotesting Jan. 6 psychos, so.

  • Riffraffintheroom [none/use name]
    ·
    4 months ago

    I want to go on record making it clear that I am a proud and freedom-loving patriot merely infiltrating your ranks.

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
      ·
      4 months ago

      In the uh, in the name of uh, unity, and uh civility, I have uh allowed all the names and addresses of anyone ever mean to Trump to be posted online in an easily searchable database. Hate has no uh p-place in our society. biden-troll

    • Mindfury [he/him]
      ·
      4 months ago

      taking the website down for a failed assassination was not ok

        • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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          edit-2
          4 months ago

          snowden leaked it and another few subsequent leaks confirmed it (these include their literal cyberweapons one time there).

          so yeah, the us has pretty much full access to everything thats online.

            • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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              edit-2
              4 months ago

              More or less

              Remember back in like 2016 when everyone was getting hacked by that NotPetya ransomware? That was because some extremely nasty exploits for Windows the NSA had been hoarding got out and people started using them because they were so reliable and devastating, like "take over any Windows system anywhere as long as you have network access to it" devastating

              They have to be careful about it though, so no one figures out what they are and patches them

              They definitely have more, probably a lot more

              Specifically, the Snowden thing they were talking about was probably when Snowden leaked a literal catalog of cyberweapons US security state ghouls could order and use lmao

          • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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            edit-2
            4 months ago

            Authoritative answer for "hexbear.net" is provided by a Cloudflare DNS server. They're an American company so the feds could call them up and do whatever they want with it. Okay, so maybe our admins use a different nameserver. The ".net" zone is administered by Verisign, an American company, so actually they could call them up and do whatever and that's it. Actually most of the root DNS nameservers are in amerikkka

            Okay, no DNS, everyone just saves the IP address of the server in France and it never changes. Idk if the Americans could force the French government to cooperate and get them to seize the servers or get the cloud server provider to do the same..... but I don't think it's unlikely. Those are just the conventional, legal ways to do it. But an enormous amount of internet infrastructure is in the US or administered by a US company and we know from Snowden that the American security state has implants all throughout internet infrastructure. And we also know the NSA hoards exploits and has a department (Tailored Access Operations) specializing in hacking into things

            If they really wanna do it, they can find a way

            Idk I'm just riffing but tbh computer security is kinda a myth or at least extremely difficult to actually pull off building secure computer systems

            This is why China, Iran, now Russia, the DPRK, and others basically have a separate but still connected internet from the main US-dominated one and are prepared to disconnect at any time

            • Currently_on_Nitrous [comrade/them, any]
              ·
              4 months ago

              Idk if the Americans could force the French government to cooperate and get them to seize the servers

              What.cd was a music/book/software torrent site that rose from the ashes of oink's pink place. The french government indeed seized the the servers at the request of the American Government.

              • peeonyou [he/him]
                ·
                4 months ago

                mega share or whatever it was called back in the day was fully based out of new zealand and the US made a few calls and had Kim DotCom's house raided by NZ swat types and they took his shit and shut the site down

                • Currently_on_Nitrous [comrade/them, any]
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  Yeah it was pretty fucked up, what.cd had some some of the strictest content rules of any tracker. Just to get on you had to do an interview with an admin with questions ranging from "what kind of music do you listen to?" to "What is your primary mode of transportation?" I think it only had ~300,000 users, you had to maintain a ratio so that every member contributed to the site. Some big artists like Trent Reznor were members and would actually put their own albums up because they knew what users were super vocal about spreading stuff that they like.

      • GVAGUY3 [he/him]
        ·
        4 months ago

        Several states have banned Pornhub so they could hypothetically banning a site nation wide could be done

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
      ·
      4 months ago

      If I try to log on tomorrow and I'm not greeted with an FBI Domain Seized page, I will be disappointed in the cowardice of the libs on this site.

      • Chronicon [they/them]
        ·
        4 months ago

        so the thing about that is

        it only really helps if you are only on tor, from the perspective of "feds seize the server" at least. Cause in the cause of onion services the server IP is protected as well as the people browsing/traffic to the site.

        It could help with domain seizure or DNS blocks though I suppose.

      • WanderingVentra@lemm.ee
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        edit-2
        4 months ago

        I don't want you all to end up in Gitmo. Even if I don't always agree with your guys takes, there's already so few communists and anarchists in the West as is =(

        We'll need organizers and teachers of history and theory to survive the next couple years.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
          ·
          4 months ago

          Look on the bright side. Many theorists did their best work in prisons from which they never escaped! thonk-cri

      • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
        ·
        4 months ago

        If we actually wanna be serious about it, we should move the site off of the clearnet

        I2P maybe

        Even if you access this site over Tor, probably like half the exit nodes are run by feds to do traffic correlation

        • HumanAnarchist
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          edit-2
          4 months ago

          Yeah, I’ve been thinking this for a long while now. Could we open a serious discussion?

          Edit: Not even cuz of trump but for opsec and resiliency as a whole.

          • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
            ·
            4 months ago

            Would be in favor of this, especially if things start looking bad

            Idk how federation would work, if at all though

            • HumanAnarchist
              ·
              4 months ago

              I dunno, moving to something peer to peer would be my suggestion. We may loose federation but what do we use that for anyway besides trolling libs?

              • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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                edit-2
                4 months ago

                Whatever it is, we should do it over one of those anonymizing overlay networks

                Just putting the site on one of those is a start at least

                We may loose federation but what do we use that for anyway besides trolling libs?

                Well..... yeah lol, idk, I used to be more positive on federation but usually all I see is the same Reddit sludge outside of Hexbear and Lemmygrad

                At least some people have come over. If we take this step we're basically gonna be more isolated than ever

                • HumanAnarchist
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  Yeah I dunno. The new freenet seems promising for ease of use and integration with federation but idk how they do with privacy. Veilid seems to have the reverse problem. I’m sure there’s a solution but we should have a real discussion on what that is.

                  • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
                    ·
                    4 months ago

                    Personally I'd want to go with something proven and widely in-use already like I2P or maybe Tor

                    Especially cuz of the relative ease of moving over cuz we don't have a lot of devs

                    I don't know much about the new Freenet tbh, I used to be into the old one though, cool as hell tech tbh but bad implementation

                    • HumanAnarchist
                      ·
                      4 months ago

                      The new one is under development and looks interesting, but this really isn’t the place to get into it. If someone else doesn’t I’ll make a post in the next few days.

                    • dRLY [none/use name]
                      ·
                      4 months ago

                      I am trying to load the server on Element. Was looking at the info from the sidebar about how to join. But I am missing something I think. It says that if I am using my account from the default matrix server that I need an email. But it doesn't say where I need to use that in order to find the server to join. I can manage to search and find individual rooms, but not like a main way to have the server itself with the subrooms show up. Do you happen to know what I might be missing?

                        • dRLY [none/use name]
                          ·
                          4 months ago

                          I just figured that a server would show as a space and have the rooms listed. But I am also not a big Matrix user and after reading your reply, I did check the spaces I have joined and they do seem to be from the default Matrix server. I also just noticed that even though I joined the vetting questions and answers rooms that someone that joined after me gave answers. But I don't see any questions provided since I joined like 48hrs ago being sent to me. So I might just make a second account via the actual server. Just noticed that the Element app seems to not have a multi account option. So will just need to either be logging in and out to check for stuff in my current stuff. Or maybe find a new app that can allow quick changing between accounts. Thanks though for replying.

    • AndJusticeForAll [none/use name]
      ·
      4 months ago

      it's called bravery, i live and die by the post. every morning i meditate chanting to myself "you're already banned, opsec is an illusion l"

    • bumpusoot [any]
      ·
      4 months ago

      On the other hand, I think some people are quite paranoid. There's a balance to be had.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
      ·
      4 months ago

      Meh, if roundups came I'd have been on the list we'll before hexbear existed. I've got a police record and for sure a file in numerous bureaus, cause it doesn't take much at all to be in one. If you're worried about your posting getting you in trouble, you aren't doing enough irl

    • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
      ·
      4 months ago

      I'm careless because I'm not American and we aren't quite at the level of becoming a fascist state like in Europe or America

      • Othello
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        edit-2
        26 days ago

        deleted by creator

        • Chronicon [they/them]
          ·
          4 months ago

          the delete account button on your settings page should wipe all your content. Its fun to have a handle and be well known, but for opsec its better to rotate accounts, that history is never fully gone, someone probably archived it

          • JustSo [she/her, any]
            ·
            4 months ago

            that history is never fully gone, someone probably archived it and a federated platform like this makes archival easy by design.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
    ·
    4 months ago

    Nah. That ship sailed, idk, ten, fifteen years ago? My takes are too hot for a chilling effect.

  • bumpusoot [any]
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    I really did assume this post was ironic. Worrying number of people here really concerned that Trump is going to come deploy Navy SEAL team six to their house for calling him a poopypants.

    And he is a poopypants.

    • Storm [she/her]
      ·
      4 months ago

      I think with the ease information can be found and used against you online, posts can be taken into evidence if you're arrested at a protest or something.

      I think it's always good to practice good opsec, even if it's just changing your username or not saying something legally actionable when the people in charge of the legal system are given pretext to crackdown.

      • bumpusoot [any]
        ·
        4 months ago

        I personally don't think I post anything that's likely to be cracked down upon. But I still largely agree, and I think that's a far more reasonable concern and good reason to opsec, depending on what you're putting out there.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
    ·
    edit-2
    4 months ago

    Good thing I don't live in the US then

    I wish Trump had died

    Even if you do live in the US you're probably fine, there was some person who posted on the Something Awful forums about assassinating Obama and Lowtax said he got a visit from the Secret Service because of it, then it turned out he'd been lying about it all along, lmao

  • booty [he/him]
    ·
    4 months ago

    i want it to be on record that i think the only bad thing about the incident of trump being shot is that he survived

    ill gladly say it to a judge too

    • TheVelvetGentleman [he/him]
      ·
      4 months ago

      I do hereby call this comment sick and inappropriate. I would also like any interested party to know that I am a cis white man with a cis white wife that I verbally and psychologically abuse.

    • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
      ·
      4 months ago

      The fuck they going to do, lock people up for saying we wish someone was dead? Only thing they have the resources or time for are people making threats or talking about plans.

      • NapoleonBlownApart [he/him]
        ·
        4 months ago

        And we have all lived through enough shooters who were a "known quantity" to the FBI, but somehow they just couldn't stop them...

        • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
          ·
          4 months ago

          Exactly. And it's not hard to parse out who gets a visit and a file that's regularly looked at. You kinda have two categories - someone who's whipped up into a fervor and is telegraphing their intent. Second, the person who has an idea of what the fuck they're doing and knows to keep their mouth shut, but might have a paper trail of different purchases. That second part of guy no 2 will have a file that will grow much more slowly, because it takes more time to assemble the constellation of evidence.

  • GodDamnAmercia [he/him]
    ·
    4 months ago

    I am being held in a secret military interment facility right now this is my last post o7

  • PurrLure [she/her]
    ·
    4 months ago

    If I can't make pissing and shitting and farting out your doo doo ass jokes then what's even the point of living? le-monke torment