cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/5197454
What the
So is there any actual corroborating evidence or did people just see slightly similar names and locations and went
to drag out an org they dislikebetween the Twitter "okta leak" yesterday and this today we really need to be working on internet literacy here.
The B Gerber in the WHOIS is probably the CISO of Coupang, weirdly.
Idk why they'd use this old web-1.0 site to register their domain name, but I also don't have high opinions of the ACP's literacy either. More likely visual kinetic was just squatting the domain and the whois hasn't updated.
between the Twitter "okta leak" yesterday and this today we really need to be working on internet literacy here.
We also need to work on some comm name literacy here too since some people need to learn how to differentiate between posting unsubstantiated info to a news comm vs posting ubsubstantiated info to the shitposting comm
(joking? lol)although I should probably look into talking about adding 'no posting unsubstantiated news' to the rules list too now that I think about it
although I should probably look into talking about adding 'no posting unsubstantiated news' to the rules list too now that I think about it
can only support this, would prevent lazy linking from garbage twitter threads.
this side of Maoist Twitter is practically devoted to giving these guys publicity with their 24/7 speculation I wish they would just pause a few hours to fully investigate and also question if they should be spending all of their time arguing with feds, something these very feds are telling them to do
this side of Maoist Twitter is practically devoted to giving these guys publicity with their 24/7 speculation
"Talking nonsense solves no problems, as everyone knows, so why is it unjust to deprive you of the right to speak? Quite a few comrades always keep their eyes shut and talk nonsense, and for a Communist that is disgraceful. How can a Communist keep his eyes shut and talk nonsense?
It won't do!
It won't do!
You must investigate!
You must not talk nonsense!" -
oh I was talking about the post about the leak yesterday in c/chapo, not your attempt to make c/main c/fakenews
probably the funniest actual thing here is that they paid $7500 for their domain name lol
I have never seen whois fail to update immediately? Since when does it ever take more than a couple hours?
EDIT: Looked it up and almost every says it's usually 1-3 hours. In the WORST case scenarios it's 24-48 hours.
The domain was bought weeks ago.
It looks like the DNS record was updated at 5:01:01 GMT this morning (July 25th). The twitter post is from yesteday (July 24th)
spoiler
$ whois acp.us Domain Name: acp.us Registry Domain ID: D1843810-US Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.namecheap.com Registrar URL: http://www.namecheap.com Updated Date: 2024-07-25T05:01:01Z Creation Date: 2002-04-24T15:57:58Z Registry Expiry Date: 2026-04-23T23:59:59Z Registrar: NameCheap, Inc. Registrar IANA ID: 1068 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@namecheap.com Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.6613102107 Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Domain Status: serverTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#serverTransferProhibited Registry Registrant ID: CC6ADF201CC294CD3AB5E195A0879569F-GDREG Registrant Name: Jackson Hinkle Registrant Organization: Registrant Street: 500 Westover Dr 33158 Registrant Street: Registrant Street: Registrant City: Sanford Registrant State/Province: NC Registrant Postal Code: 27330 Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: +1.8625009970 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: rehire-06.cashier@icloud.com Registrant Application Purpose: P2 Registrant Nexus Category: C11 Registry Admin ID: CDB3229EEC4D849F8B30965D74B3D1F41-GDREG Admin Name: Jackson Hinkle Admin Organization: Admin Street: 500 Westover Dr 33158 Admin Street: Admin Street: Admin City: Sanford Admin State/Province: NC Admin Postal Code: 27330 Admin Country: US Admin Phone: +1.8625009970 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: rehire-06.cashier@icloud.com Registry Tech ID: CC8C93DAD94B440C3B7F27CDBA5F2BA1C-GDREG Tech Name: Jackson Hinkle Tech Organization: Tech Street: 500 Westover Dr 33158 Tech Street: Tech Street: Tech City: Sanford Tech State/Province: NC Tech Postal Code: 27330 Tech Country: US Tech Phone: +1.8625009970 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: rehire-06.cashier@icloud.com Name Server: cosmin.ns.cloudflare.com Name Server: brenna.ns.cloudflare.com DNSSEC: unsigned URL of the ICANN Whois Inaccuracy Complaint Form: https://www.icann.org/wicf/ >>> Last update of WHOIS database: 2024-07-26T01:16:53Z <<< For more information on Whois status codes, please visit https://icann.org/epp .US WHOIS Complaint Tool - http://www.whoiscomplaints.us Advanced WHOIS Instructions - http://whois.us/help.html Registry Services, LLC, the Registry Administrator for .US, has collected this information for the WHOIS database through a .US-Accredited Registrar. This information is provided to you for informational purposes only and is designed to assist persons in determining contents of a domain name registration record in the registry database. Registry Services, LLC makes this information available to you "as is" and does not guarantee its accuracy. By submitting a WHOIS query, you agree that you will use this data only for lawful purposes and that, under no circumstances will you use this data: (1) to allow, enable, or otherwise support the transmission of mass unsolicited, commercial advertising or solicitations via direct mail, electronic mail, or by telephone; (2) in contravention of any applicable data and privacy protection laws; or (3) to enable high volume, automated, electronic processes that apply to the registry (or its systems). Compilation, repackaging, dissemination, or other use of the WHOIS database in its entirety, or of a substantial portion thereof, is not allowed without our prior written permission. We reserve the right to modify or change these conditions at any time without prior or subsequent notification of any kind. By executing this query, in any manner whatsoever, you agree to abide by these terms. NOTE: FAILURE TO LOCATE A RECORD IN THE WHOIS DATABASE IS NOT INDICATIVE OF THE AVAILABILITY OF A DOMAIN NAME. All domain names are subject to certain additional domain name registration rules. For details, please visit our site at www.whois.us.That's obviously a reaction to this post though. They realised the mistake and changed it.
Yeah apparently it gets a little more complicated:
https://x.com/turdism/status/1816620806157615282
Also that C&D letter is hilarious.
I've said for years now that they're feds so this really isn't that surprising. They have always been exactly what I would create if I was a fucking fed.
If this is true it burns the entire patsoc op as well as all the participants.
All thanks to total incompetence.
To think I did more due diligence setting up an inconsequential mastodon instance (i.e. making sure my given name and address isn't in the fucking DNS record lmao)
The ACP are the patsocs lol. Literally all of them. Name any patsoc and I guarantee they're involved. Everyone from Hinkle to Haz.
The only person conspicuously left out is that RT guy Caleb Maupin.
The only person conspicuously left out is that RT guy Caleb Maupin.
Too tedious and annoying for even the other patsocs perhaps?
Isnt he cancelled for sex pestery? I remember because the latsoc org purged him faster than the cp canada did with their sex pest the month before
somehow I missed that, I guess it was inevitable that he'd be a creep too
He's not a fed is my guess. Just an idiot.
The others that are involved in this project? All feds.
There was some kind of split and some kind of allegations, I don't remember the details but I remember pointing and laughing at it.
he was a wannabe cult leader, in a cult already being led. he was disposed of, and now plays around with other side characters. There are so many allegations at this point against so many people that I highly doubt any accusations against Maupin in particular played a role in this. He's not built to be the grandiose vision he manufactured for himself in the reflection of Lyndon LaRouche
Well then. I was already sure they were feds so this doesn't change much.
That nitter instance looks rate-limited. Use any from this list but not p*ast because they're Nazi pedos
https://xcancel.com/FalconryFinance/status/1816467676170240428
Also, isn't that a bunch of tracking info in the OP url? Everything from the ?t= and after is not necessary to see the post and should be taken off the link. OP, it's not your fault of course that the instance got rate limited but please remove tracking code from urls you post.
Apparently this Party exists?
I had never even heard of them before. I initially thought this was about CPUSA. Who the fuck is even joining these loser ass parties? Jesus, the Left in the US is miserable.
Really? I was under the impression they were pretty large, relative Communist parties in the US.
People I hang out with say at most PSL has somewhere between 6,000 and 8,000 full members. That is very large for a communist org though
Well, large for a US communist party is tiny is what I meant. They're largely limited to major cities and have a hard time even getting ballot access in a lot of states. Pretty sure the post-2016 swell in DSA membership dwarfed them even though PSL is a much more ideologically coherent org that practices democratic centralism.
We're getting ballot pretty much everywhere we targeted and have a presence in at least 60 cities
It's a pretty great way to get an excuse to talk to average people in terms they are prepared to understand, ie electoral politics. The goal isn't, like, to build socialism by becoming president lol
the average american does not give a ratfuck about electoral politics and is already convinced the system is broken and against them.
Ok, yeah? But it's an icebreaker to start talking about how and why the system is broken and against them.
I think electoralism inherently devalues our position while allowing easy narrative cooptation by the system.
The PSL's strategy is not electoralism, though. It's a tactic for demonstrating the bankruptcy of USAmerican "democracy". I promise you, every conversation is about outreach and teaching, not about trying to win office.
If the PSL and the Claudia de la Cruz campaign are brought up in conversations about third party voting, even if the narrative is about "throwing a vote away" or whatever, I don't think that's devaluing the position and coopting a narrative. The alternative was having the same conversation without the PSL being brought up at all. However, now once we are in the conversation, we get the chance to educate about alternative methods of political organizing and engagement.
I have tried to try a response to this and it always ends up being about 4 paragraphs too many. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
The dictatorship of the bourgeoisie is done. Capitalists, you're finished.
CPDOA -
Look at the other sites in his name. Tradecraft. Privacy. Bitcoin. Totally not captured honeypots.
Can't wait to see Hinkle defend this. That whole group is made.
Show
Whoa wtf theres bitcoin domains from 2011.
According to Bitcoin Return Calculator: Analyze Your Bitcoin Investment, if you bought $100 of bitcoin in June 2011 when bitcoinwallet.us (#23 on that list) or bitcoinx.us (#12) was registered, it would now be worth $4,163,674.
Is this just a search of anyone who registered a domain and called themselves "b gerber"? It seems kind of non specific.
https://archive.vn/QhpUA https://archive.vn/YkF1u
archived both this tweet and the quoted one for posterity
Yeah, I'm not sure how accurate this is. Its easy to dunk on the "ACP" nerds, but I think its less likely that they're feds than it is they're dipshits.
Not convinced by Maupin, I think he's an idiot and a sexpest but not a fed. But Hinkle is 110% a fed.
Yeah
But Maupin had connections to Lyndon LaRouche and considered himself a disciple of him.
Probably a useful idiot.
He's always come across as a true believer to me. While all these others do not, they are insincere and come across as game players uninvested in the stupid ass positions they're taking on a day to day basis. They all remind me of groypers who took on whatever position seemed fun or controversial or just troll-ey at any given moment. Some of them probably were or have been. Maupin doesn't make me feel like that, he seems sincere in his stupid ass shit.
...True.
He does seem like a true believer, ngl, from what I used to see of him before he started doubling-down on some of the stupid-ass positions.
@Awoo@hexbear.net both of you read The CIA as Organized Crime
Why is it not likely? The CIA cares enough to infiltrate Indian student Communist orgs, why wouldn't they do the bare minimum of disrupting communism in the US?
are pretty solid despite being pretty tiny
