Um i was doing the math and if i need to eat a goat a week but it takes years for the goat to get to size and i also need some for milk ill need like a shitload of breeding pairs which seems like they will eat a lot of grass and also what do i feed my chickens?
Is it possible i could just eat the food I'd need to grow for my animals? Nooooo
The literal easiest and cheapest thing to produce out of all of this is the honey jesus fucking christ
I don't think these idiots understand how much land a Mongol tribe needed to be able to have a mostly carnivorous diet and even then they relished finding like a tuber or vegetable of some sort in the endless grass steppes.
Help my livestock's dying
Give them dewormer
No, it's for my COVID
That and I've thought about homesteading, but just animals and animal products is silly. I understand crops can go bad but maybe build your self sustainable crops that are low maintenance that are native or at least non invasive in a way you can easily harvest and collect but it's still 'wild'. Basically like the native Americans and the Amazonians tending forests to harvest freely and easily and helping along the process.
The whole reason livestock ever were domesticated in the first place in agricultural societies is because livestock could eat the stalks of harvested plants and crop waste (something something humans couldn't eat or digest), and turn it into something humans could eat (diary and meat), could use to plant and fertilize more crops and fields (in manure), and could use to clothe and insulate ourselves (wool and animal hides). That's what made the whole situation effective and efficient thousands of years ago, that's what made these systems self sufficient. You cannot remove the largest component (the crops themselves) and expect the system to still work. That's a fantasy land that has never existed.
They think literally everyone was a hunter gatherer, there was no communities that weren't family units and every one of those family units that never interacted ever with anyone else unless doing warfare ALL got the Agriculture Perk when Humans got enough Evolution EXP by eating mammoths and all individually started small yeoman farms. Then some strong guy got other strong guys and called himself a king and united all these individual yeoman farmers against their will and made them share so he could something something cause that's their current stupid paranoia and they don't understand how culturally malleable people are. We may be genetically the same as the frozen cave dwellers we dig up but if you went back to even the time of your great grandparents you'd find yourself in a totally foreign and to you probably hostile place.
someone should tell them to just get meat rabbits
I think it would be funny for them to die of protein poisoning
Rabbits also lay the cutest little chocolate eggs that you can just eat for a little treat
I haven't been able to find it since I got a new computer, but there was a copypasta-worthy bazinga cope screed I read once that was in a published magazine about some techbro in Silicon Valley dismissing climate collapse as a non-issue, and the way he said it was something like this: "The planet doesn't matter. We can have sustainable habitats in space. We can build orbital ranches that slaughter beef cattle for meat. Elon Musk."
I remember that last part the most. The bazinga said "Elon Musk" as if that was the decisive closing argument.
We can build orbital ranches that slaughter Elon Musk for meat.
Bit idea: create a population of Elon Musk clones to be generated in test tubes and slaughtered for food. Musk will live in eternal anguish and we'll have an actually ethical source of edible corpse substance.
I just spent way too long trying to search for this, but I could only find the last time you posted this, which explains why I thought I remembered it, too. If you can find the original please post it, it deserves to be mocked thoroughly.
I really wish I could. It was unfortunately a magazine excerpt that was screenshotted from the early days of
's hype wave, which means a text search using even the words I remembered came up empty.Thanks for looking. Maybe it will reemerge someday. As a consolation prize, I found an old New Yorker article about a proposed climate change museum:
“The museum could move the conversation from polar bears to people. It’ll be a museum of unnatural history.” She, along with Massie and the rest of the board, believes that the museum must focus on solutions. “Solutions are the most exciting part,” Browning said. “I would love an exhibit by Elon Musk that shows what the world could look like.”
“The museum could move the conversation from polar bears to people. It’ll be a museum of unnatural history.” She, along with Massie and the rest of the board, believes that the museum must focus on solutions. “Solutions are the most exciting part,” Browning said. “I would love an exhibit by Elon Musk that shows what the world could look like.”
"Move the conversation." These fucking GHOULS.
I never saw that before, but now that I have, I have a fresh wound in my soul that needs tending to.
Spacesteaders are the most bizarrely unhinged branch of Heinleinian libertarian dipshit. Like seasteaders and their dream of "what if we made conglomerate houseboat cities in international waters for reasons and farmed seaweed for food and if you didn't like the sea city you were at you could just take your boat and farming pontoons and go to a different one!" are silly enough, but "all you need is a hollowed out thirty meter wide styrofoam sphere and you can live on potatoes and if someone shoots a missile at you you could simply maneuver your giant styrofoam homestead out of the way!" spacesteaders are on a whole new level of why the fuck even (also both of those quotes are paraphrasing real arguments I've heard in earnest from real people, like I'm not even satirizing their positions I'm just summarizing them slightly that's how bizarre they are).
It's like a special kind of brainworm that develops when someone is socialized on manifest destiny propaganda where rugged manly patriarchs could just legally take property for themselves to become yeoman farmers instead of wage slaves, running into the material problem that everything is enclosed and owned and they're left with nothing for themselves, and instead of thinking "damn this system of tying personhood to property and letting oligarchs hoard it all sucks, maybe it should change" they just dream of doing sea settler colonialism or space settler colonialism like in their favorite Heinlein novel where Heinlein's immortal-product-of-techbro-eugenics author insert fucks off to a ye olde west planet with his adoptive daughter and then marries her before he then makes a harem out of her, his teenage female clones of himself, his daughter, and also his actual mother too thanks to time travel because what the actual fuck was Heinlein even doing in the 80s.
Spacesteaders are the most bizarrely unhinged branch of Heinleinian libertarian dipshit. Like seasteaders and their dream of "what if we made conglomerate houseboat cities in international waters for reasons and farmed seaweed for food and if you didn't like the sea city you were at you could just take your boat and farming pontoons and go to a different one!" are silly enough, but "all you need is a hollowed out thirty meter wide styrofoam sphere and you can live on potatoes and if someone shoots a missile at you you could simply maneuver your giant styrofoam homestead out of the way!" spacesteaders are on a whole new level of why the fuck even (also both of those quotes are paraphrasing real arguments I've heard in earnest from real people, like I'm not even satirizing their positions I'm just summarizing them slightly that's how bizarre they are).
One of the most comically damning moments of me reading about spacesteaders was when one of them openly admitted seasteading was a failure in every way they had already financed and attempted but decided going into space where all the problems with seasteading were even worse and decided in a moment of sheer fucking hubris that that'd go better anyway.
favorite Heinlein novel where Heinlein's immortal-product-of-techbro-eugenics author insert fucks off to a ye olde west planet with his adoptive daughter and then marries her before he then makes a harem out of her, his teenage female clones of himself, his daughter, and also his actual mother too thanks to time travel because what the actual fuck was Heinlein even doing in the 80s.
That's only somewhat worse than the ultimate creepy author jackoff session that was the conclusion of Ready Player One's sequel. It's bad. It's "mind controlled harem waifus follow sempai into space because the ungrateful poors on the dying Earth don't praise the ego-insert epic
enough" levels of bad.
Birds need gravity to swallow and half the meat consumed in the US is chicken so that's already a problem. I read that for every 100 kilocalories you feed a cow, you only get 2 kilocalories of beef back. Plus the amount of water you have to give them. Yeah its not looking good for that
Step 1: be a steppe nomad with a large herd and extended support network of kin as well as friendly sedentary farmers, and a huge available range to travel through.
And these are the people that are supposed to repopulate the white race after the turner diaries race war does world war iii.
And these are the people that are supposed to repopulate the white race after the turner diaries race war does world war iii.
They may be the 1% of "TEAM HUMANITY" that Kurzgesagt says "wins" if they survive after 99% of the rest die off in climate collapse.
My native ancestors that "lived off the land" did so by cultivating extremely large social networks and having a degree of specialization that people like my direct ancestor were practitioners of natural and spiritual medicine, which in this dipshit's scenario is replaced by (I assume) a copy of the King James Bible.
Live alone you die alone. So I hope this idiot hurries up the dying part before too many goats end up under their knife.
I'd like to create a lifestyle for myself where like my ancestors there was an okay chance I wouldn't survive the winter but without their experience and knowledge and community and just generally tougher build/gut biome. I'd also like to make it even harder by somehow only earing livestock. Fucker wouldn't last a month.
no idea how to plan it around so I don't run out of goats
Just need more goats
The problem with capitalism is that you eventually run out of other people's goats.
I'm skeptical people like this could handle butchering a goat at whatever high frequency interval they would need to survive. Like weekly (??) if you aren't eating grain?
Survivalist fantasies of ruggedness can't handle the yucky idea of eating some fucking vegetables sometimes.
"Le epic bacon"
have made generations of internet tough guys less likely to endure collapse.
I'm skeptical people like this could handle butchering a goat
Abso-fucking-lutely not. I am pretty fit, no body builder or anything but no stranger to manual labor from construction to cutting down trees by hand (no motorized tools). Skinning an animal is surprisingly difficult and that is before you consider the fact you have to deal with all the shit.
Also the psychological impact. Most people disensitivize, but I don't think this suburbanite, regardless how chud they might be, has ever killed a mammal.
Also, baby goats' bleats sound exactly like a crying child, it's extremely spine-chilling. They are even called kids in english, right?
Not just that but then quickly prepping for preservation either smoking or salting that doesn't just ruin it, there's a reason beans and potatoes were staple crops for so many and it's cuss meat preparation is a lot of work whilst just eating veggies you grow is a heck of a lot easier.
Chuds understanding you need a varied diet to not die - Challenge [Impossible]
I need to own an enormous piece of land and fill it with things that eat plants, I will do everything in my power to never see a plant
