I'm so sick and tired of you MAGAts pretending to be communists, clogging my feed with your bullshit. I block one Hexbear community, another one pops up. How do I block this entire fucking instance? Trump LOST. GET OVER IT.
In my more conspiracy-brained moments, I sometimes think NFTs are a plot to get people to accept DRM by buying into it in the same way homeownership got people to buy into capitalism in the US and UK.
If you guys aren't Trump supporters, then why do you hate on liberals so much, and only liberals? It's always "liberal this, liberal that". You claim to be Marxists, yet you never say shit about the rise of Fascism in America. Where are the "Republicans this, Republicans that" posts? I'm not falling for your BS.
Hell, why am I even wasting my time on you people? Your kind is mad at the Barbie movie FFS. Fucking Barbie. Give me a break.
Hey, did you know that Republicans are, in fact, liberals? When we dunk on liberals, we don't mean "people with progressive social views," we have more progressive social views than the overwhelming majority of so-called Liberals. We are primarily referring to economic liberalism, the ideology which upholds and advances capitalism. Occasionally, we are expressing frustration with neoliberals, the current ruling ideology which has subsumed politics in the west and encompasses both the Democrats and Republicans.
Not like “people with progressive social views” dont harbor horrendous views because they havent completely shaken out things like racism, classism, or homophobia because getting that far means they’ll leave the warmth and comfort of their baby ideology they’ve known for so long and finally notice the bodies their comforts were built on top of
The modern, politico shorthand liberal/conservative dichotomy is an oversimplification, represents a split in opinions among liberals, and demonstrates the the narrowness of the Overton window, although "conservatives" can often lean toward fascism and democratic socialists are sometimes lumped in as "liberals" as well. Hell, right wingers call communism liberalism. That doesn't make it true.
This instance is constantly talking about the rise of fascism. However, like much of leftist thought, many believe that the ineptitude of capitalist, liberal parties and their policies, especially when they are positioned as "leftist", actually help give rise to fascism.
For example, the modern dominant strain is neoliberalism, which was actually first made popular by Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and Alan Greenspan. However, neoliberlism has been continued by Clinton, Obama, and Biden. See the rise and support of charter schools in Democrat led cities, NAFTA, etc.
The rise of neoliberalism has coincided with the death of unionism and the stark increase in inequality since the 70s in e the US.
Also, most liberals, like conservatives, are opposed to socialism, which is seen by leftists as the most definitive obstacle to fascism. See the 2020 Democratic primary where all but Bernie Sanders were eager and quick to reaffirm their support and belief in capitalism and attempted to smear Sanders for his socialist beliefs.
This is also a safe space for leftists, and leftists are often most frustrated with modern "liberals" as you know them (i.e. Democrats, Blairite Labour, etc) because while they should ostensibly be allies in many situations, they are often the biggest obstacle in our way, demanding we stand down and acquiesce to capitalist policies, and talk down to us smugly and condescendingly.
We already all know we detest fascists and "conservatives" and Republicans. We vent about them too. But "liberals" often get our ire in our spaces because of the above.
That doesn't mean we work toward conservative goals.
America has been fascist - I'd recommend the book "Blood in my Eye" by George Jackson for an explanation of how the US is fascist. Republicans and Democrats are both liberals.
are you trolling? hating on right-wingers is like the main thing we do. when we hate on liberals it's because they're too right-wing and not progressive enough.
we literally screened the barbie movie on our site lmao. why would you assume we were mad at it? it was pretty good
Conservatives tell you what they’re about. Nothing about what they’ve done should surprise anyone. What makes liberals dangerous is how disingenuous they are.
You claim to be Marxists, yet you never say shit about the rise of Fascism in America. Where are the "Republicans this, Republicans that" posts? I'm not falling for your BS.
I really think we're constantly saying shit about it. If you need more material, I like this video by Second Thought: Why American Fascism is on the Rise. Yes, the Republicans are openly fascist and bigoted, and we don't support them.
Hell, why am I even wasting my time on you people? Your kind is mad at the Barbie movie FFS. Fucking Barbie. Give me a break.
It is true, weird conservatives were really mad at the Barbie movie. So you made this point because you already convinced yourself a priori that we were MAGA Trump guys, I guess. But ... we're just not, and I can't make that any clearer. You'll probably find most people here that watched it thought the movie was really fun.
If you guys aren't Trump supporters, then why do you hate on liberals so much, and only liberals? It's always "liberal this, liberal that". You claim to be Marxists, yet you never say shit about the rise of Fascism in America. Where are the "Republicans this, Republicans that" posts? I'm not falling for your BS.
Hell, why am I even wasting my time on you people? Your kind is mad at the Barbie movie FFS. Fucking Barbie. Give me a break.
Trump supporters are a mixture of liberals and fascists. Liberals are people who support neoliberal economics, like most democratic and republican politicians.
Your kind is mad at the Barbie movie FFS. Fucking Barbie. Give me a break.
I think the general sentiment about Barbie here was pretty positive actually, even if it was often accompanied with critique of where its feminism fell a bit flat
Bruv there are thousands of liberal politicians, I don't have time to personally condemn them all. Also I'm pretty sure the fascism in the Americas is like the main thing we talk about.
The US has always been a horrid settler colonial/imperialist hellhole, but I think it's a step too far to say that the US has always been fascist, or even ever has been, only because fascism is best viewed as a reaction to a powerful revolutionary left wing movement, and we've arguably never really had one of those in the US. Even at the height of the US left's power and legitimacy, I don't think you can really say it was in a position to seriously challenge capital.
But then again, fascism has always been a concept whose terms are a bit tricky to pin down, so this disagreement could very well just be a me problem.
???? There's plenty of things to complain about with Hexbear from a liberal perspective, but I've never seen anybody here claim that Trump actually won the election; we don't really give a shit about elections in the first place. Where have you seen anything that gave you the impression that we're hardcore Trump MAGA posters cosplaying as communists?
You make a good point but have you considered Kindly,
Shut the FUCK up.
I'm so sick and tired of you MAGAts pretending to be communists, clogging my feed with your bullshit. I block one Hexbear community, another one pops up. How do I block this entire fucking instance? Trump LOST. GET OVER IT.
You can shut the fuck up, dumbass. I'm sorry that you're such a crank that you think criticizing liberal bullshit makes people pro-Trump, but the liberals are fucking garbage. Liberals are a part of moving the US to the right, not a bulwark against it.
EDIT: I'll remind you that the democrats literally helped Trump win the first time, with their dumbass "pied piper" strategy, and continue to use that strategy with far-right extremists in elections:
Kindly,
Shut the FUCK up.
I'm so sick and tired of you MAGAts pretending to be communists, clogging my feed with your bullshit. I block one Hexbear community, another one pops up. How do I block this entire fucking instance? Trump LOST. GET OVER IT.
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Go check their history:
"I've been trying to block this community of [r word] cause I keep coming here by mistake, but I can't find the option in Voyager. I keep falling for these stupid troll posts. I mean, people are actually trying to convince me that apartments are better."
Driverless cars are better than meatbag cars acktually
"I agree. NFTs are stupid in their current state, but once VR becomes more immersive, more affordable, and less cumbersome, suddenly they’ll start making a lot more sence."
Imagine bragging about a 15 year old Reddit account
Unhinged suburbanite threatening an even more unhinged suburbanite
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The idea of enforcing scarcity onto inherently nonscarce digital "goods" is one of the purest expressions of capitalist brainworms
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In my more conspiracy-brained moments, I sometimes think NFTs are a plot to get people to accept DRM by buying into it in the same way homeownership got people to buy into capitalism in the US and UK.
I mean homes at least have use value but for people who don't know what that is I see your point
The goal was to tokenize everything instead of having privacy.
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Guess what's actually cool, safe, and easy to make driverless? Trains.
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Also they hate other people, particularly those with less money or more melanin than themselves, and are loathe to share a room with them.
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that last one is just terrifying
are Americans okay?
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If you guys aren't Trump supporters, then why do you hate on liberals so much, and only liberals? It's always "liberal this, liberal that". You claim to be Marxists, yet you never say shit about the rise of Fascism in America. Where are the "Republicans this, Republicans that" posts? I'm not falling for your BS.
Hell, why am I even wasting my time on you people? Your kind is mad at the Barbie movie FFS. Fucking Barbie. Give me a break.
Republicans are liberals lmao
Hey, did you know that Republicans are, in fact, liberals? When we dunk on liberals, we don't mean "people with progressive social views," we have more progressive social views than the overwhelming majority of so-called Liberals. We are primarily referring to economic liberalism, the ideology which upholds and advances capitalism. Occasionally, we are expressing frustration with neoliberals, the current ruling ideology which has subsumed politics in the west and encompasses both the Democrats and Republicans.
Not like “people with progressive social views” dont harbor horrendous views because they havent completely shaken out things like racism, classism, or homophobia because getting that far means they’ll leave the warmth and comfort of their baby ideology they’ve known for so long and finally notice the bodies their comforts were built on top of
Indeed. I've edited slightly to clarify further on this.
Isnt it funny how people are surprised by that? They think only 2-3 things about society and power have to change, then everything is perfect.
Conservatives are liberals. Liberals are liberals. Libertarians are liberals. Neoliberals are liberals.
Liberalism has a storied, specific history. It is essentially support for capitalism combined with a set of other policies.
The modern, politico shorthand liberal/conservative dichotomy is an oversimplification, represents a split in opinions among liberals, and demonstrates the the narrowness of the Overton window, although "conservatives" can often lean toward fascism and democratic socialists are sometimes lumped in as "liberals" as well. Hell, right wingers call communism liberalism. That doesn't make it true.
This instance is constantly talking about the rise of fascism. However, like much of leftist thought, many believe that the ineptitude of capitalist, liberal parties and their policies, especially when they are positioned as "leftist", actually help give rise to fascism.
For example, the modern dominant strain is neoliberalism, which was actually first made popular by Ronald Reagan, Margaret Thatcher, and Alan Greenspan. However, neoliberlism has been continued by Clinton, Obama, and Biden. See the rise and support of charter schools in Democrat led cities, NAFTA, etc.
The rise of neoliberalism has coincided with the death of unionism and the stark increase in inequality since the 70s in e the US.
Also, most liberals, like conservatives, are opposed to socialism, which is seen by leftists as the most definitive obstacle to fascism. See the 2020 Democratic primary where all but Bernie Sanders were eager and quick to reaffirm their support and belief in capitalism and attempted to smear Sanders for his socialist beliefs.
This is also a safe space for leftists, and leftists are often most frustrated with modern "liberals" as you know them (i.e. Democrats, Blairite Labour, etc) because while they should ostensibly be allies in many situations, they are often the biggest obstacle in our way, demanding we stand down and acquiesce to capitalist policies, and talk down to us smugly and condescendingly.
We already all know we detest fascists and "conservatives" and Republicans. We vent about them too. But "liberals" often get our ire in our spaces because of the above.
That doesn't mean we work toward conservative goals.
Donald Trump is a liberal
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we talk about this all the time wtf are you talking about
America has been fascist - I'd recommend the book "Blood in my Eye" by George Jackson for an explanation of how the US is fascist. Republicans and Democrats are both liberals.
Also, I loved Barbie, lmao.
are you trolling? hating on right-wingers is like the main thing we do. when we hate on liberals it's because they're too right-wing and not progressive enough.
we literally screened the barbie movie on our site lmao. why would you assume we were mad at it? it was pretty good
Conservatives tell you what they’re about. Nothing about what they’ve done should surprise anyone. What makes liberals dangerous is how disingenuous they are.
Also who’s mad at barbie around here?
Find me the post on Hexbear complaining about Barbie please
Edit: I found one, I'll give you this
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I lightly criticised it for what felt like casual homophobia and an accidental pro-voter disenfranchisement message.
If you view any possible critique as complaining that would technically be one post.
I had the same thoughts about the Kens, that was a good read through
Thank you.
My beautiful fellow worshipper of Christ, America was always a fascist state!
What are you on about lmao Ken is Literally Me, how dare you
I really think we're constantly saying shit about it. If you need more material, I like this video by Second Thought: Why American Fascism is on the Rise. Yes, the Republicans are openly fascist and bigoted, and we don't support them.
It is true, weird conservatives were really mad at the Barbie movie. So you made this point because you already convinced yourself a priori that we were MAGA Trump guys, I guess. But ... we're just not, and I can't make that any clearer. You'll probably find most people here that watched it thought the movie was really fun.
If you guys aren't Trump supporters, then why do you hate on liberals so much, and only liberals? It's always "liberal this, liberal that". You claim to be Marxists, yet you never say shit about the rise of Fascism in America. Where are the "Republicans this, Republicans that" posts? I'm not falling for your BS.
Hell, why am I even wasting my time on you people? Your kind is mad at the Barbie movie FFS. Fucking Barbie. Give me a break.
a new copy pasta is born
Trump supporters are a mixture of liberals and fascists. Liberals are people who support neoliberal economics, like most democratic and republican politicians.
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Mate. You’re fucking dumb.
I think the general sentiment about Barbie here was pretty positive actually, even if it was often accompanied with critique of where its feminism fell a bit flat
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Bruv there are thousands of liberal politicians, I don't have time to personally condemn them all. Also I'm pretty sure the fascism in the Americas is like the main thing we talk about.
US has always been fascist. The claim that there is a rise is a lie
The US has always been a horrid settler colonial/imperialist hellhole, but I think it's a step too far to say that the US has always been fascist, or even ever has been, only because fascism is best viewed as a reaction to a powerful revolutionary left wing movement, and we've arguably never really had one of those in the US. Even at the height of the US left's power and legitimacy, I don't think you can really say it was in a position to seriously challenge capital.
But then again, fascism has always been a concept whose terms are a bit tricky to pin down, so this disagreement could very well just be a me problem.
Hey buddy, don't pop your butt. It's just words on the computer.
Ever heard the term "liberal democracy" those are the liberals we are taking about.
"relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise."
Republicans are liberals. democrats are liberals.
In the future if you find yourself confused look up the meaning of a word instead of thinking you know what it means.
Also I never saw anyone say anything bad about the barbie movie in this community.
Fascism is just the next step from liberalism, you're playing for the same team
Also Barbie was a banger, you should have seen my nails
Republicans are liberals. Don't get mad at us because you can't be fucked to pick up a book and learn things.
Tell me you don't understand any political system past the two flavors of cable news without saying it explicitly challenge
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Why do you think we're secretly maga chuds? I genuinely don't understand, especially if you've seen a lot of posts from here.
Their brain is too smooth to consider anything outside the binary, red vs blue politics on their teevee
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our big wet boy do be funny tbh
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He also has that dump truck
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I like how he showed the world how pathetic the USA is at nation building by giving up on Afghanistan.
???? There's plenty of things to complain about with Hexbear from a liberal perspective, but I've never seen anybody here claim that Trump actually won the election; we don't really give a shit about elections in the first place. Where have you seen anything that gave you the impression that we're hardcore Trump MAGA posters cosplaying as communists?
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Lmfao this has to be a bit, its too good
Lurk more here? You seem very confused atm
Post hog chud
Is this a bit?
Liberals are to god damn binary for their own good..
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he is not allowed to think about these things , his god is a god of repetition.. dont scare him with reality
Dronies only know how to regurgitate the heritage foundation, hate orange chip man, and lie
You make a good point but have you considered Kindly, Shut the FUCK up. I'm so sick and tired of you MAGAts pretending to be communists, clogging my feed with your bullshit. I block one Hexbear community, another one pops up. How do I block this entire fucking instance? Trump LOST. GET OVER IT.
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Awwwww, does conservative baby sad that there are left-leaning people? Whaaaa
Fuck Joe Brandon
Sorry, but this is a Kamala Harris fan club
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😍 That's my president 😍
A spectre is haunting the liberals minds rent free
You can shut the fuck up, dumbass. I'm sorry that you're such a crank that you think criticizing liberal bullshit makes people pro-Trump, but the liberals are fucking garbage. Liberals are a part of moving the US to the right, not a bulwark against it.
EDIT: I'll remind you that the democrats literally helped Trump win the first time, with their dumbass "pied piper" strategy, and continue to use that strategy with far-right extremists in elections:
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/hillary-clinton-2016-donald-trump-214428/
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/centrist-democrats-right-wing-gop/
https://web.archive.org/web/20230214112133/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/26/us/politics/democrats-john-gibbs-peter-meijer.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/19/opinion/democrats-far-right-midterms.html
https://www.vox.com/23274469/democrats-extremist-republicans-mastriano-cox-bailey