I got an email about support ending in October 2025; isn't this still extremely early? Aren't they usually about two or three versions of windows down the line before they end updates?
I don't want windows 11 (and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off); this is ridiculous.
and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off
Sweetie, you need your Linux medicine 💊... Take the fucking pill or it'll be injections!!!
You WILL use the people's OS, proprietary software belongs in museums 
The only thing that stops me from using Linux is that I'll miss out on the satisfaction of stealing it.
Ikr? It's like "I don't want to eat this pile of dogshit, but I also don't want to eat any of this actual food you're offering to me for free either, knock it off!" Ok then, I guess you can just starve, your choice.
Reminds me of the "Linux users are the vegans of software"
Yes, vegans are always right
It’s just kinda how it is. You don’t wanna be forced into “upgrades”? Don’t use Windows. They famously do it all the time. There’s no secret third option.
I don't want windows 11
Hey, you should try L—
(and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off)
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Yes, and yeah it's ridiculous, especially when there are a decent chunk of computers that can't upgrade. Death to Bill Gates, Death to Microsoft.
You can install 11 with a quick registry edit. I've been running 11 for over a year this way on a ryzen 1600 (not even an old CPU) without any issue. This proves they're absolutely going to bat for the likes of netflix and disney+ in their perpetually losing war against piracy. Like I've never not been able to acquire an episode of a popular show on a streaming service within 24 hours, so what's all this even for?
It's Microsoft's continual march in the direction of adding more ads, and more spyware into Windows.
Without Win 11 or Linux (you really should... no no nevermind...) I think you fall into the category of "fucked." macOS exists but it's hugely overpriced (of course I won't argue their hardware is usually very high end, feels and look great. Software is ok, although I never feel like macs are "built to do anything" other than iMessage (which I have a phone for) and browse the internet in a visually appealing way (which isn't worth $2K). I also refuse to buy one for access to full Apple development. That's monopolistic bullshit that should've been crushed a decade ago.
Anyway, Win 11 and 10 are effectively the same. I don't know why people started acting like 11 was so dogshit and 10 was fine. They're both kinda dogshit. Overbloated, poorly optimized dogshit. MS crammed BING! into every corner of it along with their "straight to the NSA" cloud shit which I would never use even if it was 100TB for free. Ok, maybe then...
people always retcon versions of windows into being fine or even "good" as they gain market share and then get discontinued in favor of an even more enshittified version. The trajectory is mostly just towards bad, but people hyperfocus on relatively small annoyances in the new version, or performance issues when they updated their old PC to the new version, and then deem the new one as absolute trash. holdouts will skip a version but then eventually be forced to upgrade, and the consensus ends up being "every other windows release is dogshit" but really they're all bad, it's just frog-in-boiling-pot strategy from microsoft slowly making the shitty parts more intrusive and locked down and spying more.
Linux otoh despite occasional blunders here and there by different distros and developers of software components is mostly trending upwards
Windows peaked with 2000 and it has been downhill since then.
Linux otoh despite occasional blunders here and there by different distros and developers of software components is mostly trending upwards
GNU/Linux is a long struggle session after the other in rapid succession that never ends and lasts for years at a time. But at least we get to speak.
If there's one thing capitalism loves almost as much as slavery, it's planned obsolescence
Me walking into a lecture hall of Macbooks and thanking Bill Jobs for civilization.
Yes, MS is getting more aggressive in their end of life terms for the general availability channel releases (Home, Pro). Use Windows 10 LTSC (EOL 2027) or Windows 10 IoT LTSC (EOL 2032) to avoid this.
Download the one you want from here: https://massgrave.dev/windows_ltsc_links
Optionally, you can customise the install media using NTLite if you want to automate customisation/debloating. Test in a VM first before deploying.
Once installed, activate using https://massgrave.dev/ using the
HWIDoption.Windows 7 was so good, the fact they came out with windows 10 shortly after, and then windows 11 shortly after that one and decided yup, 11 is the one we want to have longevity with keeps Microshit winning. What a great company.
no I don't want Linux either, knock it off
That's fine, all you have to do is go is copy paste this command line prompt and download this obscure third-party software and edit this registry entry and toggle these boxes and turn off updates and download this specific unlisted windows version and install it from scratch and disable this thing in your BIOS and set a custom group policy for your user and...
This is literally what Linux feels like to me, especially the command line ish
You can opt out of the vast majority of command line shit. I do development work and I barely use the terminal at work. I never use it on my personal machine at home. I’ve found that a lot of people who give advice like “run
sudo apt-get install thingy” instead of “go to thingy.com, click download, and then double click the file it downloads” are doing so because they prefer the more command-line oriented way of doing things. Which is fine, but not strictly necessary most of the time, especially if your OS is a glorified container for a web browser.Can I ask what you’ve tried to do in the past that had people sending you straight into the command line?
Literally day 1 install shit, I gave Ubuntu a shot a few years back and I felt lost. Maybe my brain was too small, but it just felt like your post in a nutshell. I’m also a
so that could also be my bad for trying to download something other than GimpYeah gaming can still be a pain at times. It’s gotten a lot better even within the past couple years but I can understand why people hold out on it
I don't want windows 11 (and no I don't want Linux either, knock it off); this is ridiculous.
Then get ready to pay the Apple Tax.
The Apple tax is more than made up for with all the bullshit you have to put with on Winblow
My brother has to reformat a laptop because the is petition isn't big enough for windows 11, and it's 80 gigs
But how else will Windows 11 mine crypto in the background?
Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 8.1 all had 10-year support spans like this, it's just the fact that Microsoft has slowed down releases that makes it feel shorter. You can chill on W10 LTSC until 2032 if you really want. W11 Pro will allow you to get rid of most annoying things via group policy.
Even then it's wild how feature-rich KDE plasma is ottb comparatively.
The only thing more pleasant than KDE's features and stability these days is how resource-efficient it is. We are well beyond the bad old KDE4 days where bugs and crashes were the norm and it was a RAM and CPU hog. Modern KDE is just a joy to use.
I wish I could migrate our whole network to Linux but sadly that's not how it works. I dread deploying windows 11.
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