Why does this dude continue to live in China when he can never shut up about how much he hates it there?
He left recently. His arc is:
- some kind of upper-middle-class south african tech guy, I think he made surveilance cameras or something
- decides to go to china to make money in business somehow, apparently fails at that
- ends up making vlogs about riding motorcycles around china, becomes a moderately successful vlogger
- china starts trying to figure out who this guy is and kinda keeping an eye on him, he gets spooked and moves to the US
- now he's an anti-china grifter
I might be getting some of these details mixed up with his friend/co-vlogger who followed a similar arc, but you get the idea.
I watched several of his vlogs somewhere during "3", and I liked his "on the ground" view, but the more I found out about him the less I liked him & trusted his perspective.
upper-middle-class south african
As a South African, this is reason enough not to believe anything he says
I live there, pls rescue me someone /s.
But seriously the amount of racism and general bigotry some people hold makes your average American chud look like a saint in comparison
the only white south african men ive known have raped me so im not fond of white south african men
I remember watching his video about how common of a street food dog is in several chinese cities and appreciated seeing a video that actually highlighted that truth without added on racism.
It should be unsurprising he's gone even further down that path now with anti-China stuff though.
without added on racism.
He literally says you can't compare eating dog to any other animals in the video, no matter what arguments are brought up (pigs are smarter than dogs, and can be even kept as pets, yet people still slaughter them for bacon, etc) because of his feelings or something. He's also a South African, asking him not to add on racism to the story is almost impossible, and I say this as a South African
That isn't racism, that's him imparting his morality on eating dogs onto Chinese morality.
It's not surprising for a white person to be shocked that pet animals are just treated like food animals in different cultures.
When I say the video wasn't overly racist I don't mean that he treated dog meat as if it was a normal accepted practice, I mean he didn't make it about how inferior the Chinese people are or something. The video just delivers information about how common it is and where he had found it throughout his time in China, combating the strong push from Chinese people on social media who become incensed at the implication it is eaten in China.
I mean he literally showed the corpses of dogs hanging from vendors stands and where it said dog on the menus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbHxeOQA1Mc
All of this video is about how the poor eat whatever wild animals they can catch and how dog is also a common food there, easy to access in about any city and rural areas.
Posted in Feb this year so before we entered lockdown or were really paying attention to Covid.
He travels to several provinces and shows dog meat on sale in all of them, even large developed cities.
There is a dog meat festival he goes to in Yulin.
I get that you want to push back on this, but watch the video first at least.
"I had an ex whose family literally farmed dogs for consumption, and even for them dog wasn’t a common meal."
Come on, seriously?
If you can find dog meat in a local market in every town or city, how is that not common?
Steak is not a "common" meal in the US, but it's not uncommon and you can find it anywhere.
If 25% of Americans had eaten a food, that is common.
You're letting your knee-jerk defensiveness of anything in China make you argue against this while you actually knew someone who farms dog meat.
Why should I bother arguing against someone that dead set on not budging.
You can get your hands on ostrich/gator/buffalo meat in just about every major US city as well, i've seen farms for ostrich and buffalo. The meat being accessible is different from it being common.
If you can buy swordfish in every grocery store it isn't uncommon. It's eaten as a special meal, but that isn't uncommon.
Kangaroo meat is uncommon in America, dog meat impossible to acquire.
But swordfish I can go to a Stop & Shop and buy.
Why are you downvoting this guy?
That channel is disgusting fucking propaganda and you guys are falling for it like the pathetic tools/useful idiots you are. This guy is absolutely right, dog is barely eaten in China – dog and any weird animal those racist pieces of shit tells you about; I live I China and I know this very well.
I'm really angry now, do you want to know why? Because I used to watch this little piece of shit before I came to live in this country and oh boy, he couldn't tell more lies. You guys are falling for pure bullshit.
No need to thank. I tend to refrain from changing bigoted opinions about China, but hell, we are in Chapo, not Reddit.
You did a good job in explaining the situation, when you are right, you are right. If anyone doesn't believe us and prefers to believe an anti-China grifter (he was anti-China even when he lived in China, so much for muh bad CCP), they can come to this country and check the truth by themselves.
By the way, it's quite telling that some people here prefer to believe a dehumanising caricature-like version of Chinese people (savages that eat dogs, bats and insects on a daily basis; are brutal and uncompassionate; and are mindless drones), than to believe that Chinese are like any other human.
Hell, just this year Shenzhen banned the consumption of dogs, and absolutely disagree with it. I don't disagree because I like to eat dogs, but I disagree because thinking eating dogs is any different from eating pigs is just cultural imperialism. According to Western culture domestic animals are sacred, this no different from Indians with cows. All animals suffer when they are killed for consumption, they don't suffer more or less for being domestic animals. If you believe people from other places eating dogs is uncivilised, you are a cultural imperialist and a hypocrite.
Anyways, going back to the topic, if you believe this yellow peril caricature, you should check your clear crypto-racism, crypto-imperialism and crypto-supremacism. Most Chinese don't eat dogs, nor exotic animals, nor insects.
I can answer questions if it helps changing anyone's misconceptions or mistaken beliefs about China or Chinese.
Don’t worry the person you were arguing with has all the worst takes. I understood what you were saying and valued your input and perspective.
How is what I said a take in any way?
The video presents this information really plainly and from that I would say finding dog meat in China is not difficult or uncommon.
How do you call it uncommon if there is a dog meat festival?
This site is a really bad litmus test on things related to China, it's like we all feel the need to defend anything happening there because Reddit would be incredibly racist in the other direction.
The assertion that dog meat is eaten is no more of a moral transgression on the Chinese people than eating beef here, they're just poor. No part of that statement is racist to make, especially when you pair it with the actual footage from vendors and markets selling dog.
Yes, people do eat bugs. I didn't call Chinese people 'disgusting' you fucking moron.
If there is dog meat for sale, and there are festivals around eating dog meat, and your girlfriend's family raises dogs as cattle, then dog meat is eaten in China.
It's braindead that you continue to try and argue against that.
Oh my god you're the same account.
You responded to my reply to someone else on a 3 day old thread within 60 seconds, what the fuck.
Pro Tip: Sort by comments at night makes it more fun.
I also made the thread ya goofball
People who make threads don't get notified of every comment on them.
Whatever, that's the most loser shit I've seen on this site.
Here I’ll help your racist ass out. But only this once. Don’t ask me for any more
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Ya wanna see some real loser shit?
https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/ggcm2OuStm.jpg
😬😬😬😬😬 You gotta change your username to theprojector
Because the person you were arguing with lives in China and thus probably knows more than your base understanding of the subject (watching some sinophobic vloggers channel). They gave you the stat. 25 million dogs are killed for meat. In a country with more than a billion people that’s not common. That’s a meal they have a few times a year like at a festival.
It’s a take because you’re telling a Chinese person their lived experience isn’t real. Don’t be racist. Take that shit to Reddit, they’ll eat it up.
The person I'm arguing with just admitted his girlfriend's family runs a dog meat farm.
Maybe he's defensive because people on this site (and when talking about their home countries) get insanely defensive about China.
r/documentaries is a joke of a sub, had to unsub a long time ago, posting 15 minuts racist screeds as anything worth watching should tell anyone to stay away. Most of the content in that sub is pro-american empire takes, with some "climate justice" or "corporate promo" sprinkled in. They went hard on Russia Gate before the security state made china the new bad guy (tm).
It's amazing how badly run it is considering it was a default subreddit once.
When I was still using it, The Corporation was one of the most frequently posted docs.
Top comment atm:
"He is pointing out that mainland Chinese citizens are illegally decimating the ecosystems of the ocean (and the world in general) with over fishing, he tries to soften this reality by saying its based on a starvation mentality due to past devastating famines that killed millions. The evidence is pretty clear when he does a query of wildlife violations at the local California beaches and of 54(?) all but 2 are Chinese, the other 2 being Vietnamese. He presents clear evidence that they are not respecting our wildlife laws and destroying our environment.
I find that to be pretty unacceptable, and we should look at ways to resolve this."
Gee, I wonder what "ways" he means.
(Hint: It's probably genocide.)
"Oh god, they're doing everything I wanted to do! This is horrible!"
I'd seen a couple of this guy's vids and thought huh, always seems to work in some weirdly sinophobic shit
like his anecdotes: a long trusted friend he met there eventually betraying him to steal his motorcycle while he was away: maybe that happened or maybe it didn't, but I wonder why someone would use it as an example of the culture
now I'm just imagining how easy it would be to pay someone like this to produce anti-China content as they travel around; not necessarily an op but it wouldn't be surprising
always seems to work in some weirdly sinophobic shit
Not unexpected from a white South African unfortunately
The guy who posted that also wrote the insightful comment "All Han chinese people are sociopaths" and also explains that this is not racist, chinese is not a race. Reddit is very good website.
I use to watch this guy and his yank buddy’s motorcycle vlogs, which were a lot of fun. their perspective as two half-normal-guy, half-failsons moving to another continent and trying to build a new life were interesting, and their take on China wasn’t as cynical and racebaiting. it was more along the lines of “China is a beautiful but very odd place with a cynical understanding of law, wealth, and power”, but ever since they left the country it has become entirely in line with the “china bad” grift
