deeper-sadness

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    2 days ago

    Man being questioned is identified as 26-year-old Luigi Mangione published at 11:43

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/crk0ep61p2mt?post=asset%3Acea5213a-550e-420e-990d-46479ea87642#post

    The man being questioned by police in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson has been identified as 26-year-old Luigi Mangione, police city commissioner of New York City, Jessica Tisch says.

    Mangione was reportedly found with an ID that had his name on it, along with a fake ID. He was detained at a McDonald's on Monday morning in Altoona, Pennsylvania.

    He has not been charged in connection with the shooting.

    This seems to be his twitter: https://xcancel.com/pepmangione

    The smile definitely looks the same. I've been googling the guy and he was valedictorian of his high school class. No visible ideological leaning from the twitter account which has a history going back to 2022.

    • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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      2 days ago

      I see that he has a spinal fusion located on his lumbar back on his twitter account banner. Yeah, going through that in your teens or 20s will make you hate the healthcare insurance industry.... Don't ask how I know that. Or do actually, I'm prepared to talk about such.

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      • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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        2 days ago

        This is the kind of environmental storytelling indie devs put in a game specifically made for a Jacob Geller essay.

      • Des [she/her, they/them]
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        2 days ago

        same. but the the institution that did it to me (or stopped me from getting emergency care after i fractured it) made me into the person i am today and not a fascist

      • cricbuzz [he/him]
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        2 days ago

        a reminder to cover your tracks online folks, especially if they're cringe

        • EstraDoll [she/her]
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          2 days ago

          no, when there's a national manhunt after me, i want them to find my find my hexbear account and think "damn this girl funny and has good takes and posts a good hamster"

          • miz [any, any]
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            2 days ago

            liz-society if you do adventurism we disavow

            ypg-brace but if you do

            liz-society don't

            ypg-brace but IF you do.....

            liz-society we disavow and you're not a real poster on hexbear, just a lurker.

            ypg-brace so don't do it. But if you do....

            liz-society we disavow

            spoiler

            thank you ChestRockwell for this amazing emoji rendering of TrueAnon Ep 406

        • LaughingLion [any, any]
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          2 days ago

          if i ever get busted for something i deliberately want people to see my goodreads reviews of trashy fantasy and ultra-smut

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      2 days ago

      no ideological leaning but someone who is skimming dark enlightenment transhuman/AI adjacent bullshit.

      fuck he's fash isn't he fuck fuck

      (maybe not. sorry im going through some things reading his twitter. dude is a mess. god americans wtf. it's like some combo of dark enlightenment and anti-capitalist with a side of eco lib)

      • Shaleesh [she/her, comrade/them]
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        2 days ago

        Yeah, it looks like he is atleast not our kinda guy. Theres antifeminist shit and wanking about Rome in there. Fuck this shit, fuck this country.

      • MarmiteLover123 [comrade/them, comrade/them]
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        2 days ago

        He's not explicitly tied to any ideology, just your average confused mid 20s American dude. That means lots of rightwing bullshit, it appears to just permiate the air over there.

        • Bidentime [none/use name]
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          2 days ago

          It's the only air over there. The "left" in the past decade has completely abandoned that space

      • quarrk [he/him]
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        2 days ago

        He’s anti trans too, based on an April 5 retweet

      • happybadger [he/him]
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        2 days ago

        I picked up on the Futurology Guy stuff, the AI fetishism, and the light references to Malthusian overpopulation shit. He strikes me as a vaguely right-wing libertarian, but I didn't see enough from that 5 minute glance at his twitter to really classify him or say how far into that pipeline he is.

      • space_comrade [he/him]
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        2 days ago

        fuck he's fash isn't he fuck fuck

        I don't think so but seems like he's at least halfway there with all the chud bazinga elon shit he's reposting.

        • Hohsia [he/him]
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          2 days ago

          Looks like this site has entered the box ticking phase of leftism to “claim” people

          Extremely nauseating, childish and unproductive. Wait until you learn about what actual war entails! Sometimes it’s briefly siding with people you have ideological disagreements with against a common enemy

          • space_comrade [he/him]
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            2 days ago

            Yeah people do that a lot here. I remember people being disappointed in Greta because she said some lib shit a month after mentioning the word "imperialism" once. I don't think people really get how much of an extreme minority their political position is.

            Most people don't really think about and deliberately form their ideology as much as we do here, they just absorb disparate ideas based on their life circumstances and what kind of propaganda they're exposed to. Even if you can coax a leftist viewpoint out of most people here and there doesn't mean they're anywhere close to you ideologically.

              • Des [she/her, they/them]
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                2 days ago

                it's more just whiplash. i think if he was just a baseline activist lib or apolitical party guy or even just an actual libertarian live-and-let live guy it wouldn't be as bad

                nobody was expecting a marxist leninist or ancom.

          • quarrk [he/him]
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            2 days ago

            Nah this guy just has an extremely common hatred of healthcare CEOs which transcends political boundaries. Nothing from his Twitter screams leftist. Liking Atlas Shrugged and Ted Kaczynski is right-libertarian shit

    • quarrk [he/him]
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      2 days ago

      He retweeted some China fearmongering blog post, so probably not left leaning. Seems like typical computer science stem type

      Also accusing Richard Dawkins of being woke or something:

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      • osmosis4493 [any]
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        2 days ago

        Further down he's retweeting anti-trans SWERF content

    • mudpuppy [it/its, she/her]
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      2 days ago

      it doesn't mean much that the smile looks the same, the snitch called specifically because he thought he looked the same. if anything it makes it less likely, because it was really unlikely for those smile pictures to be of the right guy, he wouldn't have been walking around wearing the same outfit but slightly different the next day

      also he's posting about investment opportunities...?

      i really get the feeling this was going to be a copycat with a different ideology

      • Des [she/her, they/them]
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        2 days ago

        god i hope so. i mean there's not one post about healthcare and nothing indicating this guy is anything but a full on capitalist bootlicker "free thinker" christian anti-DEI incel

        kind of guy to do a mass shooting or "targeted" killings of women not this

        • mudpuppy [it/its, she/her]
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          2 days ago

          part of my reasoning is he didn't say the manifesto was specifically about the healthcare industry, but "some ill will toward corporate america". that could mean a million different things, like it could be anti-DEI even. the shooter specifically linked back to a book that was specifically about the healthcare industry.

          • Hermes [none/use name]
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            2 days ago

            the DDD bullets really make me think someone with this guys background is unlikely. Also, if he was an anti-DEI guy, why would he kill an old white CEO?

          • Des [she/her, they/them]
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            2 days ago

            yep it's going to be woke CCP agents are destroying our pure American capitalism and healthcare industry and he killed the CEO because the AI he deployed sucked and dude thinks he could have written a better one or some shit

      • space_comrade [he/him]
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        2 days ago

        i really get the feeling this was going to be a copycat with a different ideology

        I dunno, according to this article (https://www.axios.com/2024/12/09/luigi-mangione-unitedhealthcare-ceo-shooting-altoona) the fake ID they found on him was the same one used in the New York hotel they saw the shooter in.

        It was extremely dumb to not get rid of the incriminating evidence.

          • spectre [he/him]
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            2 days ago

            Many people have been saying that, but you won't hear from people like me who have been reserving conclusions.

      • miz [any, any]
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        2 days ago

        the copycat idea fits a lot of inconsistencies here, but the resemblance is pretty strong. I don't know what to think rn

        • gueybana [any]
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          2 days ago

          It's too strong a coincidence that the picture of the smiling suspect who everyone though was not the real killer also happens to be a copycat. Maybe the cops circulated that picture after finding a guy to pin this on but I dunno, just seems too elaborate for the NYPD.

          The delay, deny, depose engravings don't seem like they'd be written by someone with this dude's ideology but shrug-outta-hecks

          • TheDoctor [they/them]
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            2 days ago

            Maybe the tech bro who shot a CEO in broad daylight is just kind of a weird guy

          • miz [any, any]
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            2 days ago

            well I'd imagine they immediately churned the image they had through every facial recognition program they could across their whole database of ID photographs etc, so finding a similar-looking patsy is not the biggest hurdle

            • osmosis4493 [any]
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              2 days ago

              🤓: "Hello fine day isn't it officer?"

              🐷: "Here hold this"

            • gueybana [any]
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              2 days ago

              And then plant this guy in a western Pen McDonalds with a suppressor and multiple IDs?

              • qaopjlll [he/him]
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                2 days ago

                You say that as if you think the pigs wouldn't or couldn't fabricate that evidence. Only thing I believe for certain at this point is they found him at McD's in Altoona

              • CrawlMarks [he/him]
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                2 days ago

                This doesn't necessarily strike me as a weird load out here in America. I am thinking there area few guys like that in every city. Just vibin

          • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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            2 days ago

            I think that picture went out too soon for it to be a situation where the detectives had already concluded the case was unsolvable and they need to go find a warm body to throw in prison to save face.

    • Goblin [any]
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      2 days ago

      At least he has good taste in pokemon, breloom is pretty cool. Dudes got those worms in him for sure lmao

    • quarrk [he/him]
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      2 days ago

      Seems to be him, based on brows, eyes, nose, and smile

    • quarrk [he/him]
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      2 days ago

      Seems like he is at least familiar with Pennsylvania. Studied at UPenn in Philly.

    • BeamBrain [he/him]
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      2 days ago

      First vaporeon, then typhlosion, then breloom. Which pokemon is next?