• PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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    The axis of people who refuse to read theory but consider themselves to be the vanguard is consolidating at an alarming pace.

    • Homestar440 [he/him]
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      Chomsky was a big part of my radicalization, I loved how authoritatively he could just wreck American propaganda on any subject, but in his Q and As, he'd naturally get the question, "OK, I get it, we live in a giant lie, and capitalism is going to kill us all, what do we do?" and his reply was always basically, "just do whatever, no ones stopping you, organize and stuff, that's how it's worked before." That always rubbed me the wrong way, but I thought it was a problem with me, old Chomskers couldn't be giving bad or even incoherent advice, surely he must be correct. I'm starting to consider the idea that, no, what was happening there was his rejection of the prescriptions of Marx, Lenin and their ilk left him with absolutely nothing to offer, and these poor people, having just been rightly convinced that everything they knew about America and the world is a lie, and innocent people are dying literally right now, desperately ask, "what can I do to change this terrible situation," and be told, "organize and stuff, it's easy, it's actually embarrassing that you asked me."

      Anyway, what was goin on with V-sauce or whatever?

    • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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      4 years ago

      me tbh

      furthest I've ever gotten was Chomsky

      ill just be cannon fodder when it's needed

      cos my heart's in the right place

      • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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        Nate Robinson has a knack for criticizing doctrinaires for screeching "read theory" at everybody, and he's right about that. Not everybody needs to read theory. However, people like Nate Robinson, the editor-in-cheif of the largest or second-largest print socialist magazine in the United States absolutely fucking need to read theory. That's basically my point.

        As individuals, we should all do what's right. We don't have to put much thought into this. You see someone struggling, you help them out. You don't need to read an encyclopedia to understand this. Throughout history, there have been countless illiterate peasants who understood this. Elitism is the twelfth kind of liberalism. However, when you are laying down a political line which is supposed to represent masses of people, you need to do your homework. You have to think strategically. You have to reflect on history and the insights which have been gleaned from it. You have to engage critically with the subject matter. If you claim to speak for millions of people, you owe it to them to do some due diligence and not lead them into a dead end.

        We should never assume we know what's best. Most leftists are humble. Most leftists know that they aren't all-seeing and all-knowing. They try to contribute to the understanding of the collective, and they try to expand their own personal understanding by listening to others. Then there are people like Nate who are like, "You know, the people who keep bringing up this Marx guy are really annoying. Maybe I individually am smarter than generations upon generations of revolutionary thinkers."

  • KiaKaha [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    how to argue with conservatives

    Didn’t know NJR was getting into military tactics, but good on him.

  • acealeam [he/him]
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    this is made in a vat to annoy me
    pure, concentrated liberalism

  • ChapoBapo [he/him]
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    If you people don't stop I'm creating chapo-chat-without-vaush-content.com

    • ethan [none/use name]
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      I almost didn't post. But I hate NJR more than I want to stfu about the other fool

      • wasbappin [he/him,they/them]
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        As the resident report Vaush posts to the mods as a bit person on Chapo.chat, I'm allowing this post, because the people need to see Nathan being a dumbass.

  • RandomWords [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    dude vaush isn't even a fucking leftist. this guy is definitely 100% a grifter that would have been a chud if, what i'm guessing is, some cool ass mother fucker didn't get him into punk rock at a young age.

    someone needs to feed him lots of acid and explain to him what the fuck he is before he does more damage.

    • wasbappin [he/him,they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Nathan J Robinson looks and acts like a slaveowner who teaches his slaves how to read... latin.

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Vaush posting is haram.

    We need Marx and Lenin Juche'd stat so they can start on the epic dunking of Fancy lad and the Anarcho-electorialist.

  • Bob [he/him,he/him]
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    4 years ago

    i swear to god if i see one more fucking post about some fucking youtube politics idiot

  • anthm17 [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I gotta be honest I don't get the obsession with debates among some leftists.

    • ethan [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Debating is a waste of time. No one does it in good faith and no one ever changes their mind.

      Marx and the early marxists recognized this and savagely owned their opponents instead

    • regul [any]
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      4 years ago

      a lot of leftists are insufferable dorks

    • duck [he/him,they/them]
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      I like to listen to debates to fall asleep/while I'm doing something but they're stupid and pointless mostly, when I can't find anything better I listen to Vaush's because he does so many for some reason, I know, :gui-better: me. Listening to both sides is annoying idk why I do it :agony:

  • ethan [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    He keeps getting worse! I'm afraid to see his over 9000 moment

    • crushendo [he/him]
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      I dont know anything about vaush but that's pretty hard to do

  • DonCheadleInTheWH [any]
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    Y'all a bunch of consumer whores. They give you kibble, and you bite every time.