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Endlessly amazing how a video of a guy not getting run over by state forces is such a big deal to Americans considering how often cops plow through American citizens
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Genocide is going on in China in Xianjing and Tibet.
They're still going on about Tibet, even claiming there's a genocide?
I know Xinjiang is spelled wrong, but the same person couldn't even spell Tiananmen right in the same comment.
The deprogram auto moderator should be unleashed on all of reddit. Let the whole site tremble under its aggressive fact checking and multi page comments.
A lot of discussions about the TS incident gets bogged in what happened and what didn't happen and so on. But I think something a lot of communists and socialists (even on this site) need to focus on is why the Chinese government "censors" the incident.
The fact is the Chinese government is pretty open about what happened. They talk about the people who were killed surrounding the square, both students/protestors and security forces. What they don't like is the western propaganda surrounding the incident and the lies surrounding it that have arisen organically from that propaganda in the west. See, in China you are not permitted to lie to the public about other people, the government, history, companies, and so on. And they are sensitive to certain topics because they are such common lies used to defame China. They will not stand for the defamation especially on platforms they control and nor should they.
Think of it like this, whenever China is doing well or something is going on with China, oop, here we go: pictures of the square and the student protestors or tank-guy/bag-man. When Shinzo Abe was offed by the doohickey, were there posts on Reddit about Nanjing? When Germany sent tanks to Ukraine do we see images on /r/pics about Dachau? No, of course not. Only China and Iran get this treatment.
Some ill-intentioned westerners will go on Xiaohongshu and post about TS and get banned and decry that they were censored, oh no! "I ran into my neighbor's house and shit on the living room floor and he kicked me out! I'm being oppressed!" China does not want these people stinking up the place. Most Americans in these spaces don't want these people stinking up the place. Instead they are sent packing back to their house, western social media, where the floor is already covered in shit so they can pretend like they are privileged to sit in it and enjoy the smell.
I'm not even here to claim this is a psy-op because it does not need to be, this lashing out at China whenever they are experiencing growth and openness is likely purely organic. I think there is a deep sadness in the heart of the west - at the unnecessary struggle daily life can be for the average person. This is doubly true for Americans. We have already seen how emotional people are getting to see how well the Chinese are doing on average. The lament that life doesn't have to be so hard. The realization they have been lied to. It is jarring to the psyche to have a fundamental element of your worldview reversed overnight. There is almost a grieving process at all the potential you lost by believing and living the lie. Sadness is a stage, as is anger. For most westerners they never move past denial.
purely organic
The US just alotted $1.5 billion to anti Chinese propaganda, so I'm not so sure about that
It is somewhat organic though, like the US did seed a lot of the propaganda initially, but like most of the West's propaganda it's self-fuelling now. It used to be that people kept to within the lines of the propaganda, now people just invent whatever the fuck they want and the scarier it sounds, the more real it could possibly be - and if you push back, well, you're just a red fash tankie SeeSeePee shill
Like I've seen people just whip out the most asinine shit about China clear out of thin air, and not from terminally online
users either. I know someone who's otherwise fully disconnected from politics and online discourse but truly believes that China is building back doors into consumer cleaning robots so that they can map out someone's house and, if they ever speak ill of China, break in and kidnap them to disappear them. He doesn't even mean like dissidents living here, he straight up thinks China will disappear random Canadians for speaking ill of Xi around their RoombaMy fellow Americans will do this sort of shit for free I assure you.
If that were the case, the government wouldn't be dumping money into it
Well the government wastes money on fruitless tasks all the time. But also they will be using it to reinforce the ignorant nonsense people already believe. Propaganda works best when it plays on preconceived notions. You can't just spend a billion dollars to convince people the average Chinese person has four arms and expect it to work. Additionally, I find it funny sometimes how much we leftists think anything that reinforces western ignorance must be by bots or whatever. It's a very liberal take. We have to start recognizing that westerners on average can be extremely ignorant all on their own.
Are we really out here trying to pretend that Americans don't hold ignorant backwards views about China? That everything they post online about it must be directly paid for by the US government?
This "everything like this must be a bot" is some real liberal posting. Do better, folks.
?? I hope you didn't think I was aiming that at you
I was just (trying to) riff and agree with you that they don't need to be paid, this was a funny image I saw that I thought was pointed at the same thing but I guess it wasn't clear
okay, sorry, in my mind it comes off like "hey American, why are you doing all this without getting paid?" but I could see how it could be read other ways.
Note (from Red Sails)
None of this is meant to downplay the scale of the propaganda project. I’ve spent enough time chasing down leads on different intelligence fronts and their plots to know that they are real and have real effects. [7] I do not deny that the outcomes we observe are at all times incentivized and enforced both overtly and covertly by our various societal superstructures (police, education, culture) and that principled and effective truth-tellers have been assassinated. I reject only the common misconception that propaganda “manufactures consent” (Chomsky) or “invents reality” (Parenti), because it exaggerates the feat accomplished by propagandists, and, in doing so, it obscures the real material basis that has historically made even the working poor in the imperial core complicit.
Wow, for an /r/pics thread there sure are a huge number of multi-paragraph comments relating stories of the same event with the same talking points posted at similar times
They have me working overtime here at Langley and I don't even get to use TikTok while I do it. Sorry my work looks a little "uninspired" on the 9th hour of my shift you fucking
. Johnathan China, my rival, gets to pop champagne and say "Americans have it so rough working two jobs just to survive" on red note. I have to do the same argument about tiny man square with Redditors 9999x times. My boss told me to bring diapers to work and started laughing at me. I fucking hate my boss, I fucking hate Langley!!it's easy to do when you're all in the same room at eglin afb
Had a chinese student in my uni dorm well over a decade ago, nice girl, but her roomate blew her mind when they went over tiannemen square stuff. She provided online video references and docs etc.
It was so surreal seeing this intelligent human grapple with thier understanding of reality, in a matter of minutes i saw several phases of denial...
Now she is citizen of canada.
Nightmare fuel
God that sounds like such an obnoxious roommate. Let’s talk about your country’s controversies and politics!
Extra hilarious considering from the responses on Rednote, Chinese people don't give a shit about the US but somehow we care a whole lot about them.
Difference between living in a settler-colonial empire and a socialist nation in the Global South.
Had a canadian student in my uni dorm well over a decade ago, nice girl, but her roomate blew her mind when they went over residential school stuff. She provided online video references and docs etc.
It was so surreal seeing this intelligent human grapple with thier understanding of reality, in a matter of minutes i saw several phases of denial...
Now she is citizen of china
Man, anti-China liberals or "leftists" or whatever you call them are the most annoying people in the world. It's probably easier to reason with some racist person on the right than them.
You can thank a large number of those types for teaching the liberals the word "tankie" with their holier-than-thou left idealism where the only revolutionaries they hold in esteem are the martyrs that never actually took power. And those are the ones that are plausibly acting in good faith. The rest are wrecker shitheads.
They use the word tankie like chuds used to use "soy" or how they use "woke" now, but aimed at leftists they don't like.
Lotta comments about "remembering" seeing shit
And its like, buddy, I "remember" getting chased by the boogeyman when I was 3, you didn't see shit
Sorry. I use Rednote, I’m not sure what came after this image, care to explain? /s
i despise liberals. there's not harsh enough words in the english language for how much.
lol i recently made this exact same post with almost this exact same title
(not saying you copied me just think its funny)
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oh heck