https://twitter.com/KerrAvon4/status/1320952044279255042?s=19
It's amazing how quickly the "muh civility" goes out the window when they're punching left.
By riot they mean piss and moan and maybe throw a fit and trash their expensive coffee
Just like Matt Christman said on one of his streams, if Biden loses, they’re gonna say it’s our fault. If he wins, they’re gonna say “see, we didn’t need you”
“During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”
It's from Parenti's "Blackshirts and reds", a great and easy to read book
Not that I'm some Swoletariat Broseph, nor do I go looking for trouble. But it's funny how the only threats I see from Libs are online. I'm 6'4" - 230lbs. Come kick over my table. I'm begging you.
I'm with you 100%. I don't talk that kinda trash because at the end of the day I don't like fighting and I hate getting amped up like that, I hate getting aggressive and then having the emotional come-down afterward where I feel like shit for being an asshole. It is super clear that they have never thrown nor taken a punch based on this kind of silly-ass posting.
You said it. It's so easy to be brave and tough online. I mean, I'm about as meathead CIS white hetero as they get and even my dumbass recognizes you probably don't want to fuck with, in real life or online, someone who is outwardly mobilized (be it a DSA member or just some random transgendered person) and self-aware. They probably have seen and dealt with some shit - the likes a pussyfooted lib could only dream of in their worst suburban nightmares.
But aside from all that, try being the good person you pretend you are to yourself instead of shitting on people in general.
This is the sign that you have been in a fight and are not an asshole. That comedown is legit fucking awful.
I know the DSA gets a bad rep for being soft, but every time I've seen people tabling for the DSA they're usually taller guys with decent builds..... I would love to see the recording of this guy kicking tables over :michael-laugh:
I always see the same dude at post hardcore shows and DSA tables: twinky lumber-hipsters dudes and ladies with bobs and terf bangs, both in their late twenties.
Lol yeah I'm not that tall but I'm a burly blue collar worker who has actually been in fights. Putting an uppity lib on the ground sounds like so much fucking fun
Libs: “Conservatives are EVIL!! They’re trying to intimidate voters at the polls by threatening them and being violent with them!”
Also libs: this post
They will literally tell you threatening nazis is wrong and makes you just as bad as the nazi and then threaten to injure you because you wanted healthcare and free education lmfao
Any moron lib tries this on you, just respond with Zen Doomerism. By enthusiastically crushing even a marginally reformist radlib left movement in the world's superpower the centrist libs have probably doomed the human race to extinction. Sanders and a Green New Deal were probably the one thing that could potentially budge the scales of the future, after this it's probably too late unless we can magic up a viable Communist Party revolutionary movement within 5-10 years.
These are the smug mother fuckers that half of this site thinks it's not only possible to radicalize, but totally worth it.
Half of this site, apparently. Every time there is talk on here about radicalizing people, it shifts to "let's radicalize libs" and you get down-voted into oblivion for pointing out that they come from the upper class and can't relate to any of our struggles.
The majority of libs Marxists should want to radicalize are either a) clearly working-class, b) under 30, or c) marginalized by some combination of sexism, racism, LGBT-phobias, ableism, etc. The libs ripest for radicalization are those who've been made to see what's behind the kayfabe as a result of either political experience or having a shitty life (especially where the boss/landlord/insurance company/etc. is obviously culpable), those who've at least begun to draw or intuit correct Marxist or revolutionary conclusions and are still looking for answers and ways to actually fight back and organize.
In the current moment this might include disillusioned Bernie supporters who were misled by the DSA Dem-entryist tactic for 3 years, or young participants in the revitalized BLM movement (or the youth climate movement, or the women's marches, and so on) who've witnessed firsthand the Dems' and NGOs' sabotage of their movement and the slowing of their momentum in favor of getting out the vote for fucking Joe Biden. To the extent that these people are libs, they're already progressive and are hardly true believers in a reformist or even social-democratic approach anymore.
Of course since a lot of the working class is still either apolitical (and therefore liberal by default rather than invested in liberalism), or under the influence of opportunist saboteurs encouraging them to devote their political energy to helping the Democrats, unless socialists can successfully forge organic grassroots relationships with their co-workers, their communities, their local unions, etc. through united-front struggles and interventions, many of the people who'll be quickest to radicalize are necessarily going to frequently have some lumpen or PMC-failchild characteristics, e.g. students with petty-bourgie or PMC parents, or downwardly-mobile people who had to learn the hard way that meritocracy is bullshit, or underemployed and hyper-oppressed people who've directly experienced state violence in some form and were never invested in the system to begin with.
The enthusiastic and smug K-Hive and Donut Twitter people on the other are the true believers among the PMC and the cynics who've fully embraced the fuck-you-got-mine-except-woke mindset, the people ignorant or ghoulish enough to actually think Biden and Harris are good candidates and to shit on progressive libs for daring to add caveats and criticisms of Biden to their explicitly lesser-evilist and harm-reductionist Biden endorsements.
Most POC are libs
There are tons of disenfranchised POC across the country who don't vote, are they libs? Most of them are poor and it fits the statistic of lower income households not voting at all. Over 40% of the country don't vote. The left will never accomplish jack shit in this country as long as we keep dividing ourselves with ID-POL, instead of uniting under the banner of working class and acknowledging that the class war is real.
Most POC are also working-class. OhWell has a point, even if the phrasing might read as erring too close to class-reductionist: successful organization of the US working class has to emphasize workers' common material interests and avoid the opportunist pressures from liberal identity politics (emphasis on liberal, not identity politics!) while remaining firmly anti-racist and anti-imperialist, organizing and arguing for workers' liberation as a necessary component of organizing for liberation from racism.
Some workers new to socialism start off having still internalized awful and reactionary ideas but through common struggle with POC and other specially-oppressed groups will necessarily learn to expunge any vestigial racist or otherwise bigoted notions or attitudes from their thinking and from their organizing. For example, a white socialist still recovering from reactionary baggage marching with his comrades for the BLM cause will necessarily be forced to confront their unconscious or semi-conscious racism (e.g. thinking they can ask their Black friend for the N-word pass) in order to become a better comrade, if they give a shit about seeing the workers' movement and eventual revolution succeed and aren't just in it for the healthcare. A US-American socialist organizing with foreign or Indigenous comrades will have to set aside and expunge their unconscious imperialist/settler biases to effectively organize internationally, correctly answering the national question in each context and refusing to buckle to opportunist pressure to endorse social-imperialists like Bernie Sanders.
Most POC get it but don't know theory, and so give up on poltitics entirely. Most don't even bother watching the news because it's so depressing when you don't think there is any way to change anything. That's been my experience with everyone I've talked to, at least.
Yeah I mean I get that for sure I just meant like most people who opine on politics at all are ostensibly liberal because it's the hegemonic alternative to overt racism.
I swear to god, I hate these people more than chuds.
Jesus Christ
They believe the exact same depraved shit, just with a gold layer of "civility" to deny it, with added smugness from the whiff of moral superiority that comes with that.
People can play the "lesser of two evils" garbage as much as they want, if the results are basically the same but liberals act like this while doing it, they're worse.
A MAGA con will punch you in the face, a lib will stab you in the back.
I want the libs to lose more than I want to chuds to. I have a bigger chip on my shoulder for these losers. Even with the gigantic given that dems would be the harm reduction party and not a 4 year intermission, they still deserve the loss more than the repubs. You know? They're such skin-crawlingly slimy careerists who just expect your vote.
Also, fuck cops. Harris is a fucking cop. Holy shit.
I acknowledge that Trump is a lunatic as well, the bourgeoisie pageant is a shit show through and through
My thoughts exactly. And they turn around and straight up laud their cop bro as "the most progressive US candidate ever". Disgusting.
Because she gave lip service to M4A and if anyone was paying attention her backtracking on it was a big part of why she had to drop out so early. God this is so fucking stupid.
People like that are just fashies who have learned to cover up the Swastika armband with a rainbow armband on top.
Fr they act like they don’t like republicans but they’ll fucking jump through hurdles to defend them against leftists
But he will smirk while you ignore him because you were thinking in the loved ones you lost, and will keep losing because of this monstruous system. And he will feel a tingle in his dick when his stupid phone tells him of the new KamalaHarrisLifeAchievements Deluxe FunkoPOP collection is out and already added to the e-cart
I haven't seen it, I just knew it will exist because we are in hellworld motherfucker.
Disgusting
I fucking hate these things even when they aren't models of ghouls
Sure am glad the libs assured us that we could pull the dem party to the left
I mean with the work that the squad is doing with the CPC [congressional progressive caucus] there is a chance that we at least get a leftist voting bloc in congress next year..... because right now we don't even have that.
Basically.. right now the members are free to do whatever, but with rule changes that most of the leadership agrees with, they'd need to vote with the CPC or lose membership.
It sure as fuck won't be anything coming out of the White House or Senate though... unless Bernie goes back to bullying libs and shaming them every chance he gets on the floor, which is a real possibility seeing as how he may only have 4 years left in politics and he could just evolve into his final form on his way out the door.
