• wasbappin [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Red fascism is when the United States bombs every building over a story tall in your country.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Breadtube was a very cool moment in time, which has been over for a couple years already.

    • goldsound [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It helped get me to... well, here. But now... damn. Did it get more lib or did I get less?

      • Owl [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Mostly it was really just a handful of youtubers who were highly active and further to the left than we were used to from youtube. Since then they've all become less active (posting longer things less often) and more interested in pursuing niche projects than mass-reach ones. The insistence that this was a movement, instead of a handful of people who mostly knew eachother already, lead to places like /r/breadtube, which has always been a bit lib.

  • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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    4 years ago

    Meanwhile /Sino: still exists and hasn't even been quarantined

    • soufatlantasanta [any]
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      4 years ago

      Sino can be total shit at times but I'm sort of glad it exists as a counter to all the dumb China conspiracy theories enlightened reddit stembros keep churning out like damn you really called Xi Winnie the Pooh, damn sure got him there

  • Young_Lando [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    These fucking idiots are not our allies, just misguided fools who want to point problems out, not solve them.

    If we get left unity is bc a vanguard party gave anarchist groups their blessing to conduct direct action against the agents of capital, not because some fucking breadtuber decided to play nice with the capitalists and say "China and US bad".

      • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Yeah, I get downvote spammed and admin banned like crazy there, selfawarewolves, and enlightened centrism.

        Literally got a ban for saying you should shoot fascists the other day. On a post about WW2...

  • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    dismiss 80% of the critique they come across

    Hmm what percentage of U.S. narratives about communism would you say are propaganda?

    • AndThatIsWhyIDrink [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Cross posted.

      I would probably make an effort to remember to do that if there were cough some sort of incentive like pts for doing so cough. Right now the only people with an incentive to crosspost out of place content in the catch-all "main" community are the owners of those respective communities. That's part of the reason karma on reddit works well, all the crossposting it incentivises users to do into the relevant similar communities.

      • SnugMelon [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        There's the other advantage of not posting in c/main, which is that you avoid finding out about the drama that happened on discord

        • AndThatIsWhyIDrink [she/her]
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          4 years ago

          I think it's extremely naive to think that they don't work to generate activity you want people to do.

          I don't REALLY care about them, but in a choice between taking the time to crosspost for no real gain and taking the time to crosspost for a fake perceived reward? The latter is more likely to have the outcome desired. And we do desire people crossposting, right?

          The only people with an actual incentive currently are the community mods seeking to populate those comms. No incentive, nobody doing it. KiaKaha here could have hit the crosspost button to do it too but did a comment instead, bizarrely, which isn't necessarily a useful outcome either.

      • KiaKaha [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        That’s a good point. Consider making this a Feedback post?

    • Phish [he/him, any]
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      4 years ago

      I think it's a worthy pursuit. I'd sure like more content like that to learn from.

        • Phish [he/him, any]
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          4 years ago

          That's a fair point. When I think about doing stuff like that I usually talk myself out of it because I don't think it will catch on.

    • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Like most places, the posters are far outnumbered by lurkers. Most of the time on subs like that, the only people posting are people who disagree or are feds.

  • itsPina [he/him, she/her]
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    4 years ago

    That was me here's the removed comment

    http://imgur.com/a/1LLGh7P

    Holy thread sucked tbh

    • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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      4 years ago

      I dunno. That subs normalises extremely lib takes on foreign policy among fledgling leftists and bans people who dare to speak against US imperialism.

      • hagensfohawk [none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        The sub doesn't "normalize" US imperialism. That's already a part of the cultural hegemony. Any sub that would ban that kind of talk would seem so foreign to new leftists that they probably would just leave.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          That subs normalises extremely lib takes on foreign policy among fledgling leftists

          That's the important part. You're right that imperialism is normalized within mainstream culture; we don't want to to be normalized in leftist spaces, too.

        • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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          4 years ago

          Maybe I have not been paying attention but it seems like a more resent development. Supposedly there is one mod that has taken up a vendetta against "tankies".

  • wombat [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism

  • ap1 [any,undecided]
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    Other than conflating the entire userbase here with the serious "tankie" types (the modern strawman to replace SJW, which rarely exists and are mainly nazbol LARPers) is this really a take most people here disagree with? I've seen a lot of condemnation for the undeniably bad aspects of the USSR/China/DPRK, it's just with informed nuance and critically questioning the source of some of the information.

    • RindlessWatermelon [they/them,he/him]
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      4 years ago

      There isn't a problem with critiquing any state, as long as you aren't doing it in a way that supports the interests of the US.

      It is not "whataboutism" to discuss US human rights abuses, and long history of propaganda when discussing any other state on the planet. As things currently stands, every state on the planet is forced to respond to the US, be it as an ally, or in opposition, and critiquing a state for a bad policy that is a reaction to a worse US one legitimizes the multiple war crimes and crimes against humanity of the US Imperial core.

      • ap1 [any,undecided]
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        4 years ago

        yeah but there's no need to so defensive - the comments in the above screenshot don't say anything to the contrary to that. They even clarify that they believe ML != Tankie