McGrath is proof of everything wrong with the Democratic party.
They do this every few years. They prop up some DINO who is extremely rightwing and supports everything that the GOP in that state supports. They do it with pandering to the middle class Republican voters along the lines of "You like the troops? You like cops? You like spitting on the poor people and minorities? Here, here! Vote for us!" This strategy never works, cause seriously, who the fuck is going to vote for RepulicanLite over a real deal ghoul from the GOP?
They stacked McGrath with all these celebrity endorsements and a warchest of money, and yet she just barely beat Booker. Again, they do this every few years and they always lose but they make tons of money campaigning. The reaction is always the same too. They blame the state and the voters for being racist rednecks or something, then whine and moan about how it's a "deep red state" and "there's no way we can win anyway, we tried with a centrist and this is proof that we can't".
If you want to see how much liberals hate southerners, just look at any thread on r/politics about McGrath and count how many stereotypes and posts about "poor stupid white people" and my favorite one "they vote against their own best interests".
Seriously, fuck the Democratic party and fuck liberals that defend this shit.
“Voting against their own interests” implies there is any candidate to vote for that serves working class interests. We all vote against our own interests every time.
I used to have a pretty big hang up with that. Getting frustrated at people who "voted outside their interests".
It wasn't until recently, like way too recently, I realized how much classism and deep-seeded racism there is to with that kind of statement.
Shit just kind of gets in you, we're all tainted by this country.
I try to appeal to the idea there are shared interests between classes, but to vote in that interest means a disproportionate benefit to the poorest in society. In the sense you're adding 10 to their nothing, while you're only adding 5 to somebody who already has 10. At least be up front about that shit. Libs are like "you should vote for the poor because if you don't you're evil!". It doesn't work.
And notice how much doublespeak and contradiction there is in their actions and arguments on this: centrists can’t win in a state like Kentucky, let alone a leftist, so let’s sink a ton of money and resources into the centrist’s campaign! After all, we know how to appeal to these southern voters, whom we call degenerate backwoods yokels, unlike leftists who think poors are capable of caring about their material interests.
I know, that's their contradiction that they don't even realize.
I had this argument with a liberal about Alabama and was using Doug Jones as an example. Jones is about to lose to Tommy Tuberville, who is a goddamn football coach with zero real political experience, to the point that all Jones ever attacks him with is "he just moved to Alabama 5 months ago. He isn't even from this state". Tuberville beat a pro-Trump candidate back in the primaries and these same liberals were wetting their pants laughing over the idea of a football coach beating one of Trump's guys, but the excuse to him polling way higher against a Democrat like Jones is to just whine and moan about how dumb people in Alabama are and "they vote against their own best interests".
Jones has been the one Dem senator who votes with Trump more than any other Dem senators (over 77% of the time). Jones only barely won back in 2016 cause his opponent was Roy Moore who was a pedophile. Jones is widely hated in AL, not just by Republicans, but everyday people which is what has depressed turnout and why he is so far behind in polls and looking to lose to a football coach. Jones basically ran on being this civil rights candidate and then as soon as he won, he started voting with the GOP on everything and libs just defend this cause he's a centrist, therefore it's OK.
The lib I was arguing with just tried to smugly tell me "well, if a centrist like Jones can't win, I don't know what makes you think the racist morons of Alabama would vote for some far leftists. It's clear that they don't want Dems, they absolutely wouldn't deal with a leftist". I have family there and lived in AL before. The main thing they talk about the most is MEDICAID. Medicaid expansion is the biggest deal cause the GOP there have been gutting it for years and Dems just throw their hands up and do nothing about it. They could run on healthcare in that state and raising the minimum wage and it would get them a ton of support, but that would upset all the middle class Republicans that they cater to and wish would vote for them.
I have lived my entire life in southern states and I can say this from experience, the Dems in those states ARE FUCKING USELESS. In Alabama and Florida, the Dems don't even bother running house district candidates outside their comfy big cities. The house districts in the rural areas are always a race between 2 Republicans and sometimes a Libertarian candidate. So by default, the GOP takes those districts. The Dems don't care as long as they aren't challenged in their big cities. This is the Dems way of directing a huge middle finger directly towards anyone living in the rural south, and libs just defend this by saying it's "deep red states" anyway and they wouldn't have a chance. I guess if people like me want to earn the respects of smug liberals, we need to go thousands of dollars in debt and move to a big city that is a liberal utopia where the costs of commodities, taxes and everything is far more expensive.
A lot of that goes back to the Democrats simply not putting any effort, outside of stronghold states and urban areas, into state and local politics. The party ends up with a skeleton operation until the DCCC decides that some district looks competitive now, then they helicopter in a bunch of money and resources, mostly out of DC, into the race of some neoliberal picked for their ability to fundraise. And if they lose, the money and resources disappears as quickly as it arrived. There’s no building of a strong local party that can serve as a foundation for switching seats because that’s hard work that can’t be accomplished by throwing money at DC consultants.
I think a lot of that smug, urban liberal attitude about the hinterlands is really a rationalization for the party being one giant grift.
That history goes back a long ways. In the 90s, that's when the party under the 'New Democrats' (Clintons) started to turn their back on the labor movements in the south and rural areas. There was a time when the deep south had strong unions and workers rights that they had fought for through decades. The Dems turned their backs on them and Clinton was able to get rid of unions that not even Reagan could touch. Those states became "deep red" states as liberals love to call them, as a result of Dems turning their backs on them and slowly pulling away.
Howard Dean's 50 state strategy was seen as too radical by the Dem party back in 2004 and they are just too lazy to really lift a finger and campaign in all 50 states. They whine and moan about gerrymandering but they're not going to do anything about it.
Already been seeing libs on r/politics saying that she only lost because she just wasn’t right-wing enough for the uneducated rednecks of Kentucky.
That's always their excuse. Liberals have been telling me for years that because I live in a "deep red state" and "centrists do so bad in your state", it's proof that they can't win all together cause in the end, as they also tell me "no one wants far left candidates in red states if they can't even warm up to a centrist".
I don't live in Kentucky but I do live in the deep south and one of the biggest talks every election is medicaid. The Dems in my state aren't even running on medicaid expansion. They are just running on RepublicanLite talking about how much they love cops and the military. Then they wonder why they lose.
They truly believe that the entirety of politics consists of a straight line from Left to Right, so they can’t comprehend that people in a red state could reject means-tested liberal bullshit and then support universal policies that benefit the working class.
this is the pro-trump democrat right? the one they choosed instead of the socdem
The DNC needs Red State Democratic parties to be controlled by Conservatives because it gives them an excuse to not do anything when in power.
I'm sure they feared Booker winning the primary more than McConnell winning the general.
Similar to how they feared Bernie winning the presidential primary far more than fearing a second Trump term.
They rigged and voter suppressed McGrath's primary challenger, all for this? What a waste of time and money lol, it was clearly done to send a message that reform isn't welcome
Hey now, they can't just throw away one of their best heels, he brings in so much fundraising!
The money was spent to ensure she won the primary, and Booker lost. It'd be like saying that Mike Bloomberg's primary campaign was a waste of money when he clearly got what he paid for.
The DNC is dependent on Red State Democratic parties being controlled by conservatives, because it gives them an excuse to not actually do anything when they get power.
There was a lot of money donated after the primary as well, especially in the wake of RBG's death. Liberals mad at Mitch poured money into Amy's campaign despite people pleading them to spend on races that were actually close
That's completely true. I also think this chart perfectly explains McGrath
she has as many donations from California, New York and Massachusetts as every other state combined
She raised over 50 million dollars and that is the only reason she got the backing of the party over Charles Booker. These motherfuckers aren't even trying to win. They only care about the money.
She raised 88 million and spent 74ish of it. Mcconnel has spent 43 million of of 55 raised.
https://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary?cycle=2020&id=KYS1
About as much as you've spent on your 2024 campaign so far
I think the funniest thing was listening to the Trillbilly Worker's Party and hearing how fucking stupid Amy McGrath is.
tricking coal miners to appear in an Amy McGrath ad was peak Democrat.
Someone describe the kind of person who actually votes for Mitch McConnell though, like the guy represents nothing but using politics as a tool for terror and carnage against the working people.
Didn't Patton Oswalt and other ShitLibs basically cheerlead her? LinkinParkInTheEnd.mp3?
Losing is a business to these people, they spent millions of dollars and not a single cent went into criticizing blatant voter supression by republicans because "MUH MY FOCUS GROUP SHOWED IT MASE PEOPLE NO WANT TO VOTE"
Michael Moore had a decent podcast on the topic of Dems' progressive-phobia with Rachel Bitecofer
Why do so many Democrats keep making the mistake of running to the so-called "middle" or apologizing for being Democrats every election cycle? And why do Republicans - an unpopular political party that enacts awful and discredited policies, continue to win and hold onto power?
No surprise, though, being Libs, they completely failed to diagnose the problem.
