This made me curious if the CIA ever accidentally did that, and I did some looking around. I couldn't find one.
Far right politicians are usually big fans of the US for some reason, which makes the US not want to remove them. I wonder why that is?
Actually they did in the dominican republic one time, overthrowing their fascist puppet and allowing a "liberal anti-communist" in but then undid it when the guy tried to do anything positive, shot him, couped haiti, and reinstalled the fascist from earlier.
Panama in 1989, too!
(Can’t find the Haitian coups you mean, there’s a LOT)
Trujillo was the dictator so actually might be the dominican republic
shit mixed up my coups, haiti was a different few
its kinda sad that its hard to keep track of how many
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they helped nassar remove the king in egypt that one time. They also named their operation "Project FF (fat fucker)", the main reason for this was farouk was a complete incompetent moron for a puppet. Too lazy, hedonistic, scummy, and in general the most incompetent ruler ever, so before any actual anti-imperialist revolution happened, they tried getting more competent people. Nassar tricked the CIA so that was funny.
There's a few other comments here with other examples. I admit, I only did a cursory 5 minute search. It seems that in all cases, they tricked the CIA though, so the original point stands. It's just funny.
because the US has always put far right governments into power in order to suppress the left. always. without exception.
Except when they get duped, because the us is run by failsons of failsons
Only leaning?
The political options to choose from are right or far right. You can choose between the republicans 20 years ago, or the republicans of today.
American is one of the most right wing countries in the world, only surpassed by Israel and Ukraine.
It's unfair to leave Poland out of that list. Israel at least has a socdem party in parliament, Poland starts at libertarianism and goes right from there.
It's unfair to leave Poland out of that list. Israel at least has a socdem party in parliament, Poland starts at libertarianism and goes right from there.
I don't see what factions exist as important. But who rules. The existence of this faction may be tolerated but the fascists are in power and have been for 50 years where they've created an apartheid society and a deeply fascist culture. That is not really the case for Poland, which seems to be in the fledgling stage of fascist takeover.
the US is right leaning
... right leaning... as if it's gentle as fuck and super duper teeny tiny from the "center"...
The US IS the right. The US is like a fucking missile that's taken off and violently exploded through the furthest part of the right of the spectrum, going arbitrarily further endlessly without limit.
All right-wing governments and trends lead back to the US. All roads to the right lead to the US. Stop using soft language for the worst empire in world history.
Well the US did get tricked into supporting the CPC so, once at least. Castro also had some media support at least early on.
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This is literally the timeline where the US backed "christian democrats". Those motherfuckers are far right too
and christian democrats are evil!
social democrats are controlled opposition liberals but they aren't ideologically against basic human rights for minorities
Ho Chi Minh is a far more complex from the western standpoint than any other communist. He essentially used the threat of making Vietnam communist to get western support and then did it anyways lol. He was far better at openly playing the west than any other leader I've seen, gotta love it.
I don’t get why Ho Chi Minh isn’t a more revered figure among Western leftists. Successfully fought against Vichy and fascist Japanese forces in WWII, played the OSS, kicked out French colonizers, defeated the puppet post-colonial government and the US empire, and Vietnam would go on to be a largely successful socialist economy, independent, didn’t break during the collapses of the late 80’s/90’s, and the claims of “communist authoritarianism” against it are about the most piss weak of all nominally socialist states. All-around Chad.
Ho Chi Minh is one of the GOATs and seriously overlooked as far as leftists go. He really should be one of the most uncontroversial picks for being a fucking legend. Ultra famous people like Mao and Stalin made some pretty notable fuck ups, it's fine we're all human. But goddamn Ho Chi Minh was on this shit like he was looking in a crystal ball, even telling China to fuck off multiple times and was right to do so.
I think it might be because Vietnam is allied with the US for now while the other highly praised AES are sworn enemies
It wasn't Ho himself who saw the final defeat of the US empire on his land, but it wouldn't have happened as quickly without him.
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There are allegations that the CIA funded Castro in the lead up to the revolution, although obviously the CIA is silent on this.
If I remember correctly, Fidel wasn't actually a communist at the start of the revolution but eventually become one at a later point influenced in part by his brother and Che. So he wasn't really hiding anything, he just evolved.
Imagine thinking they ever did anything remotely close to that.
The CIA did fund the Finnish succdems, but that was when the USSR was still around, so now you're SOL.
Tbf I don't find this prospect unthinkable since some far-right parties in europe aren't quite as aligned with american strategy as others.
For example Le Pen (who is almost certainly winning in 2028), the german AfD and Orban have dissented, in different measures, to the establishment's position on ukraine and china. If a far-right party were to reach power in one of the big EU countries and they were expected to shift europe away from the US I don't see why the americans WOULDN'T interfere.
If you really want proof, look at Meloni’s Italy.
Ok but my point is you don't look at JUST meloni to judge the willingness of the whole european far right to follow the US, Meloni and her party are fiercely atlanticist in a way that the 3 examples I mentioned aren't, a hint at their difference is if they are in the ID or the ECR group in the euro parliament, ID parties "tend" to be "softer" on, say, russia and china but not always, and if one of these parties actually were willing to, for example, pull the plug on ukraine support if it came to power I don't see why america wouldn't act to keep that party from power. They didn't need to do that with meloni because she's always been a vocal supporter of american strategy.
I'm just saying this to complicate things a bit, I don't think it's certain at all that these EU-US skeptical far right parties would actually follow through on it, it's sort of like asking whether trump would actually stop backing ukraine, can't say for certain
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