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    • cilantrofellow [any]
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      4 years ago

      Agreed. One issue is that anti-racism information has been so co-opted by liberal and neoliberal spaces and agendas that any endorsement appears to extend to the whole. It’s frustrating because of how it is weaponized with crocodile tears for the sake of strengthening ghoulish behavior in politics, but with identity boxes checked.

      Identifying a solid leftist framework with resources might help.

            • ChudlyMcChubbyPants [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Taboos are like private property but for truth. Your expectations seem to go beyond conviviality and comradeship when people should accept your schema as exempt from critical interrogation. In effect, you are making private property claims in other people's heads.

              (I upbeared this whole strand of the thread after someone submerged it)

              • the_river_cass [she/her]
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                4 years ago

                In effect, you are making private property claims in other people’s heads.

                lol this is fucking galaxy-brained. holy shit what a take.

                materialism is when you compare the way we think about things to literal property rights and the more you idealize, the more material it is.

                  • the_river_cass [she/her]
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                    4 years ago

                    mate, this take is equivalent to "you can't ask us to erode hierarchies because in doing so you create a hierarchy" and it puts you in opposition to revolution as a political goal. so what are you doing here? what are your goals? because they are not mine.

                    • ChudlyMcChubbyPants [he/him]
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                      4 years ago

                      I came in interest after y'all got bounced from reddit. My goals are to destroy the concept of private property in the concrete and in the abstract to the greatest extent practicable, and encourage systems thinking as an aid to understanding the liberal mind so that we all can pith it more effectively and have some chance of an ideology not neoliberalism surviving the next 20 years.

                      I guess I need to log off until I finish this. That synthesis is harder to find than I expected.

                      • the_river_cass [she/her]
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                        4 years ago

                        haven't heard of that book before but I'll check it out. the thing I want to urge you away from is the notion that people are entitled to the ideas in their heads -- that they in some sense, possess them. with this step comes commodification and we should be fighting that snake every step of the way. moreover, the world as it exists today is violent and broken. it will take a lot of work and, yes, violence to undo that. proponents of queer feminism are not doing anything separate from what every revolutionary seeks to do -- get a foothold in the war of position in order to set the terms of the more material conflict.

    • Young_Lando [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      This is word spaghetti, I'm not even sure where ya going with this. Hold this downvote