From what I know, their main cause is overall just and they have done good work infiltrating places with hidden cameras and recording/exposing animal cruelty...
...But their publicity stunts, probably the big thing they're known for these days, are almost always stupid and imo do more harm than good by turning potentially sympathetic people against them, and possibly by extension animal rights.
I’ve got a low opinion of PETA that’s tainted my view of most animal rights activists tbh
they’re volatile and predatory, the zealots and radicals all too often hate people and don’t contribute at all to other struggles
I’d sooner hang out with eco-terrorists or FARC than PETA cultists
Most people I know in the ALF, started as teenagers in PETA. I think PETA serves a useful purpose in introducing people to the cause and their methodology (the celebrity "naked" anti fur posters, the colorful graphic design and merchandise, the use of obvious trolling to draw attention to their cause) appeals to teenagers who are new to these things.
Plus PETA pushing for vegan and vegetarian options in restaurants has made things much easier for those of us who don't eat meat in my lifetime. Back when I was a kid, my mum couldn't get me a happy meal because they only had meat options. Now they have multiple veggie and vegan options. That's a good thing that's almost exclusively down to them.
Lots of excess civillian deaths, kidnapping/ransom schemes, illegal drug trade. Maybe I'm a lib or whatever, but even if they're comrades their methods aren't very palatable (and I would guess many Colombians feel similar, I'd like to hear from a Colombian leftists or two on the topic though of course).
They're like pretty much any other well-meaning lib organization - people with decent goals whose methods are terminally compromised by their lack of class consciousness.
pretty sure at this point that PETA is an op, especially given their twitter tirades railing against childrens' video games like pokemon and animal crossing
I remember on Chapo, they once had a theory that they're astroturfed by the meat industry to make animal rights activists look obnoxious to make being against animal cruelty and factory farming, the issue that should be popular for all sides unpopular.
Well... I don't not believe that.
PETA hasn't shot a single rancher that I know of so it's kind of hard to take them seriously. Those guys who liberate mink farms are cool, though. I don't care about mink but I respect their hustle.
Only reason PETA doesn't do ALF shit is to avoid legal troubles, but they still funnel money in their direction sometimes on the down low.
PETA and ALF are symbiotic, they perform different functions that are mutually exclusive for their organizations.PETA can do big out in the open organizing, and can get celebrity support, because they are not openly eco-terrorist.
ALF can do cool stuff, but are unable to advertise, file lawsuits, do peaceful demonstrations.Watch this and tell me PETA are libs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kfBFMhdaMI
Also this posted below: https://www.peta.org/about-peta/victoriesUncritical support for PETA.
They're good. Almost everything people hate them for is complete bullshit. They do good work for a good cause.
Lmao you got downvoted when you're right.
All the claims against PETA (they have all kill shelters, they once killed a family pet, they've killed more animals than x, etc) come almost exclusively from "the Center for Consumer Freedom" which is a Libertarian think tank that's heavily funded by the meat and restaurant industries. The website PETA kills Animals comes from them. They got caught running 800 reddit accounts just to post nonsense about PETA.
PETA isn't a perfect - there's a reason I support the ALF not them - but they're a lot better than people think because of the astroturfing.
Also the person (Rich Berman) behind 'PETA Kills Animal' also funds a think tank called 'Center For Union Facts' . Which argues that 'argues that unions are corrupt and bad for workers.' Not say I've made the deep dive into PETA but that should make one immediately suspicious.
"The Center for Organizational Research and Education, formerly the Center for Consumer Freedom and prior to that the Guest Choice Network" LOL rats jumping the ship
What is worse than the actions of Peta for their publicity is the industrial media complex. With peta you don't make money. Advertising for companies, for meat, for repression and hierarchy you do.
Any critique of peta without looking at the capitalist system of advertisement and its connections to the productive system and the ownership of the means of production is lib propaganda.
All they do
Yeah, about that...
They do a lot of shit. You don't hear about it because that would go against the narrative.
Spot on. This thread shows how much we are prone to drinking the lib juice and demonize peta.
we dont have a team dedicated to drowning out our acheivements with outrage marketing that alienates people, unless you count twitter mls as a central authority
You don't think there is plenty of communist stuff going on, that people don't know about, cause or marketing (esp with hostile marketing against us) is bad?
I'd argue that, at least in the case of XR, they are also somewhat successful, given that a major aim of theirs to raise awareness about climate change and show those in power that there is an opposition capable of applying pressure, and in that regard they don't need to be liked to be successful
https://metro.co.uk/2016/04/01/is-peta-penis-shaming-with-their-latest-tweet-5788848/
